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Old 01-14-2012, 02:45 AM
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ABOUT DIMITRIE CANTEMIR I CAN TELL YOU THAT HE HAD 6 CHILDREN, READ ABOUT, IF YOU LIKE:
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Sturdza

Is Princess Francoise of Switzerland a member of the Romanian Family and is Princess Marina Sturdza related to her??? What is her family tree?
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Switzerland does not have a royal family. There is no Princess of Switzerland.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:37 AM
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Switzerland has NEVER had a Royal family, so the style "of Switzerland" does not exist.
I found a Princess Francoise Styrdza who got engaged to this guy.

Gregory David Roberts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:27 AM
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I found that the Sturdza are a Romanian noble family holding princely titles.
One Prince Sturdza was Romanian ambassador to Denmark, thus I believe the title really exists.

There are some descendants living in Switzerland and having Swiss passports - one is a former tennis pro who played for Switzerland in the Davis Cup, thus he at least has a Swiss passport.

Thus I could imagine that "Francoise Sturdza" has a right to the title princess but that the "of Switzerland" only means that she is a Swiss national. I found pics of her with eg Beatrice of Bourbon-Two-Sicilies, so I think she is genuine. But maybe she is divorced from a Prince Sturdza?
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:53 AM
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The Princely family of Sturdzas are a very noble family, and they combine romanian, wallachian, moldavian and greek blood. Some of them have been the rulers of the Princedome of Wallachai and Moldavia.
Roxane Sturdza, descendant of this family has been romantically involved to Count Ioannis Capodistrias, Minister of Foreign affairs to the Tzar Alexander I and First Gouvernor of Greece.
Actually, there is a Prince Michail-Dimitri Sturdza who writes very good books about noble families of Greece, Constantinople, Balcan States etc etc. Very interesting and high level.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:07 AM
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Françoise is the former wife of Prince Eric Ioan Sturdza (Youngest brother of the head of the family, Dimitrie G. Sturdza (the 30x national Tennis champion in Switzerland . Fraçoise is today married to Gregory David Roberts (who wrote the monumental book "Shantaram")
Françoise was allowed to continue to carry the title through a family decree.

The families last sovereign prince was Prince Mihail Sturdza of Moldavia 1795-1884 - reigned : 1834 to 1849.
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Marina Sturdza will speak about her life next Sunday at Digi24:

DIGI 24 | Marina Sturdza vorbe
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Monsignor Prince Vladimir Ghika will be beatified in Bucharest on the 31st of August 2013:

Vladimir Ghika va fi beatificat la 31 august 2013, la Bucure

http://www.arcb.ro/images/stories/do...imir_Ghika.pdf

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The descendants of Monsignor Vladimir Ghika's brother, Prince Dimitrie Ghika, belong to the De Briey Family:

http://www.ghika.net/Familles/Briey/Briey_01.pdf

A site dedicated to Prince Vladimir Ghika:

Vladimir Ghika

Temporary Museum dedicated to Prince Vladimir Ghika at the Latin Cathedral of Bucharest:

Muzeu dedicat Mons. Vladimir Ghika | Arhidieceza Romano-Catolic
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Digi24 presents the life of Prince Vladimir Ghika (who will be proclaimed Blessed by the Catholic Church during a solemn Mass presided by Cardinal Amato in Bucharest on the 31st August 2013):

Un sfânt îngropat f?r? cruce. Monseniorul Vladimir Ghika a murit la Jilava, dup? doi ani de tortur?

Priest who died of hunger in Communist prison to be beatified | CatholicHerald.co.uk

A priest who died of cold and hunger in a Communist prison will be beatified as a martyr in Romania. Archbishop Ioan Robu of Bucharest said the sanctity of Mgr Vladimir Ghika had “given us an important new example of a life lived for Church and faith”. Cardinal Angelo Amato, prefect of the Vatican’s Congregation for Saints’ Causes, is scheduled to celebrate the beatification Mass in Bucharest’s Romexpo exhibition centre on Saturday.

Archbishop Robu said that Mgr Ghika would represent many other “unknown and unrecognised Christian martyrs” who died in Romania during four decades of Communist rule, which ended in December 1989. “This latest beatification proves the Church doesn’t forget those who generously gave their lives in this way, whose testimonies can still be understood and valued by contemporary society,” the archbishop said.

Mgr Ghika was born on December 25, 1873, in Istanbul, where his father was Romania’s representative at the Ottoman court. He was one of six children in an Orthodox family. He studied in Paris and in Toulouse, France, his mother’s home country, and received a theology doctorate in 1898 at Rome’s Dominican College. He was received into the Catholic Church on April 15, 1902, but was persuaded by Pope Pius X, whom he knew personally, to remain a lay man in order to evangelise more effectively among non-Catholics.

After aiding the sick in Thessaloniki, Greece, he moved to Bucharest, where he founded Romania’s first free clinic, as well as a hospital and sanatorium, before returning to France to care for the displaced and wounded during the First World War. In 1921, he was awarded the Legion of Honor for helping restore France’s diplomatic ties with the Holy See. On October 7, 1923, he was ordained in Paris and was authorised to conduct liturgies in both the Latin and Eastern Catholic rites.

Mgr Ghika returned to Romania at the outbreak of the Second World War to organise help for refugees and bombardment victims. Having rejected advice to leave the country after the Communists seized of power, he was arrested on November 18, 1952, for refusing to break ties with the Vatican, and survived more than 80 violent interrogations before being sentenced to three years’ incarceration at Romania’s infamous Jilava prison, where he died, emaciated, on May 16, 1954.
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You can watch live the Beatification of Monsignor Prince Vladimir Ghika:
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A Prince was proclaimed a Blessed of the Church:
FOTO VIDEO 8.000 de credincio

Thousands gather for beatification of Romanian prince helper of sick, died in communist jail - The Washington Post
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I had never heard of Vladimir Ghika and I'm reading up on him now. Very interesting.

Does anyone know if any other members of the Ghika family also converted to catholicism?
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The descendants of Prince Dimitrie Ghika are I suppose all Catholics but they belong to the De Briey noble Family.
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O.k. I have just begun reading about royalty from Romania and am wondering about another royal member. Her name is Princess Briana Coradja. Why isn't she included in these conversations? She is a descendant isn't she? And who is Prince Ottmar ( I think that is how it is spelled ) ? Was he not adopted or something? Sorry if this has already been answered. As I said, I joined you folks late.

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O.k. I have just begun reading about royalty from Romania and am wondering about another royal member. Her name is Princess Briana Coradja. Why isn't she included in these conversations? She is a descendant isn't she? And who is Prince Ottmar ( I think that is how it is spelled ) ? Was he not adopted or something? Sorry if this has already been answered. As I said, I joined you folks late.

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From what I can tell, Briana is a descendant of the Romanian aristocracy, not the royal family.
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But I read that she is the grand daughter or great grand daughter of Princess Catherine Olympia Caradja. Apparently Catgerine is the daughter of Princess Irina Catacuzino and Prince Radu Cretulescu. I guess Catherine also adopted Ottomar since she didnt have any male heirs and he was given the title of Prince. catherine died when she was 100. She left behind Princess Brianna and her adopted son Prince Ottomar. I was just curious why no one mentions them.

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Because the Caradja family is not a royal family, it's an aristocratic one. It's kind of like the Galitzine's of Russia - while they have Princely titles, they themselves are nobles not royals.

Catherine's biological daughter, Alexandra, had a daughter, Brianna, who in turn has had two sons. Catherine also adopted a son, Ottomar, who died in 2007. Ottomar had a son, also named Ottomar.
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Oh, I see. Thanks for the clarification. I was having a hard time understanding this. I thought you must be royal in order to have a Prince or Princess title.

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