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Old 08-16-2015, 07:06 PM
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Duc et Pair, I'd say that being CEO of Thomson's Spanish unit, and marrying a billionaire's daughter, would make a family affluent enough.

Cory, agreed. Very sad.
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Too many people are dissapointed by what the King officially did on the beginning of August to support a Restoration of this Family on the Throne anymore.
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Old 08-18-2015, 02:16 AM
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They may be disappointed this moment but people forget and you will be welcome whatever the new successor
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Old 08-18-2015, 04:00 AM
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King Michael married Princess Anne from the House de Bourbon de Parme, until the interbellum counting as one of the richest royal dynasties. But wars and exiles are very destroying for royal fortunes and most likely King Michael never had. His five daughters all married gentlemen who did not - or little - attribute to the wealth of the Romanians. King Michael's Hohenzollern relatives (the Prussian royal branch and the Hohenzollern fürstliche branch) of course also experienced two World Wars, the collapse of the Empire, the exile of the Kaiser and his son. But they were not barred by the Federal Republic of Germany like Michael was barred from Romania until the fall of the Iron Curtain. The answer will be somewhere there.

Although financially speaking most of the King's sons-in-law have been of respectable means, the first husband of Princess Irina is from the mega-rich Kreuger family, who are close friends of the Swedish royals.
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Old 08-18-2015, 06:53 AM
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But marrying a rich partner does not make a royal family on itself rich. Princess Maria Carolina de Bourbon de Parme (cousine of King Willem-Alexander) is married with Albert Brenninkmeijer. His family is the wealthiest of the Netherlands (worth some 23 billion Euro).

But that does not mean suddenly her brother, the Duke of Parma, now has more to spend. I think he will not get one single Eurocent extra because his sister married such a rich gentleman...

Princess Irina married a wealthy man but that was it, the wealth will remain in the Kreuger family and not be transferred to King Michael and his family, of course.
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:32 AM
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The descendants of King Michael will inherit only the goods of the King but they have really nothing to do with the restoration of Monarchy in Romania anymore.

The Romanian royalists have now the opportunity to be very claer about the future and show their support to the Princes of Hohenzollerns as the only Successors to the Throne.
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Old 08-22-2015, 07:52 AM
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I'm amazed that the King would make a decision which effectively kills any change of Romania becoming a monarchy once again.
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Old 08-22-2015, 08:21 AM
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The descendants of King Michael will inherit only the goods of the King but they have really nothing to do with the restoration of Monarchy in Romania anymore.

The Romanian royalists have now the opportunity to be very claer about the future and show their support to the Princes of Hohenzollerns as the only Successors to the Throne.


Nonsense. The Hohenzollerns are virtually unknown to the romanian people. Those few who´ve heard about them consider them as utterly foreign. They´d NEVER gain enough public support from the romanian society.
I also doubt this german family, who don´t live in Romania, have any interest of becoming romanian royals...
I cannot think of any romanian government of allowing the Hohenzollerns to take up residence in any of the castles or palaces used by today´s royal family!
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Old 08-22-2015, 02:57 PM
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With what happened on august 10 i learned not to be absolute in anything and expect everything even the Hohenzollerns become romanian royals.
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Nonsense. The Hohenzollerns are virtually unknown to the romanian people.

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Euh... Michael, Margareta, Elena, Irina, Sofia and Maria are all 100 % born Hohenzollerns and Princes (Princesses) of the House Hohenzollern... You seem to overlook that...

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Old 08-22-2015, 03:43 PM
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Euh... Michael, Margareta, Elena, Irina, Sofia and Maria are all 100 % born Hohenzollerns and Princes (Princesses) of the House Hohenzollern... You seem to overlook that...



I guess you know exactly to who I referred to as "the Hohenzollerns"....
You seem to overlook this (source: Wikipedia):

On 10 May 2011, on a background of lawsuits in Germany brought against his family by his German relatives regarding the former name Hohenzollern-Veringen of his son in law, Radu, and of fears[89] expressed by some that the German Hohenzollerns may claim succession to the headship of the Romanian royal house, Michael severed all of the dynastic and historical ties with the princely house of Hohenzollern, changed the name of his family to "of Romania", and gave up all princely titles conferred to him and to his family by the German Hohenzollerns.[4][90]
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Nonsense. The Hohenzollerns are virtually unknown to the romanian people. Those few who´ve heard about them consider them as utterly foreign. They´d NEVER gain enough public support from the romanian society.
I also doubt this german family, who don´t live in Romania, have any interest of becoming romanian royals...
I cannot think of any romanian government of allowing the Hohenzollerns to take up residence in any of the castles or palaces used by today´s royal family!
What do you know about the Romanian royalists attitude regarding the Princes of Hohenzollern? Have you ever been to Romania? Have you spoken with Romanian Royalists?
The only chance for restoration of Monarchy is represented by the House of Hohenzollern.
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The King and his daughters are not Hohenzollerns anymore but the Hohenzollerns remain the only Line of Succession according the Constitution of 1923.
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Old 08-23-2015, 08:44 AM
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The succesion at this time is a bit complicated . Let's say that Prince Carl of Hohenzollern and his son say no to succession then the next is his brothers imagine (i read he have two). So what? We ask them and whoever accepted? (And of course if the two granddaughters of King say no also) COMPLEX
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:51 AM
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The monarchy in Romania will never return, we can be relatively sure about that. But of course there are also nobles living in Romania, on estates, like in France or in Germany, which are republics as well.

It is interesting what happens to Peleș, Pelișor and Săvârșin. Were these private property of the King and could these be transmitted to anyone the King pleases? Or were there conditions to the ownership of the estates, that these should remain with the bearer of the Crown (or the Head of the House)? Then there could be a juridical yes-no-yes-no between the heirs of Michael of Romania born Hohenzollern and the gentleman who will become the Head of the House (the closest related most senior male Hohenzollern), which is the present Fürst von Hohenzollern.

The monarchy, forget about it... but the estates, or the value of these... that is always something interesting. Many, many royal and aristocratic families have reached agreements or settlements with the state about their properties. King Michael has got Peleș, Pelișor and Săvârșin returnerd. But what was the status of these goods before these were seized by the Nazis and communists? Property of the Head of the House of Romania or private property of a private individual?
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Old 08-23-2015, 01:05 PM
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Exactly. The entire complex situation. And I wonder, is he ever possible to King Mihai risked all this without a very serious reason? No I do not think. I believe that things will stay for the time being as they are (Margareta, Radu and Maria) without making hasty moves.
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What do you know about the Romanian royalists attitude regarding the Princes of Hohenzollern? Have you ever been to Romania? Have you spoken with Romanian Royalists?
The only chance for restoration of Monarchy is represented by the House of Hohenzollern.



The decision about the future of the monarchy in this particular country is not being made by a handful of royalists but by the mean, average romanian population as a whole!
The princely house of H. is unknown to the people of Romania. Unlike Mihai´s family they don´t play any part in Romanias society. They are foreign and are perceived as such by those who are aware of them at all...
So how you could claim that the only hope of a restoration would lay upon them is beyond me...!
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The King's descendants are not considered more Romanian than the Princes of Hohenzollern.
The supporters of Monarchy show the possibilities for a restoration are still quite real.
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Old 08-23-2015, 06:55 PM
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That is true. In essence Mr Nicholas Medforth-Mills was a Swiss born British gentleman who suddenly was created a Prince of Romania (in the meantime he has lost that title again). When such a move can be made for a Mr Medforth Mills, it surely can be done too for the Fürst von Hohenzollern.
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In the year 2015, why would average Romanians support replacing the country's democratically-elected president with a German person who doesn't even speak Romanian?
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