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Old 07-12-2016, 02:12 PM
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Has the republican Government given citizenship to the Swiss-born UK-citizen? There was never any communication around it.

King Michael of course was a Romanian national when he went into exile. That is different from Nicholas.
I am quite sure I have seen somewhere that he became a Romanian citizen in 2012, but it seems difficult to find a proper source for it.

On a slightly separate note, it seems from certain sources as if the decision of the King to remove Nicholas from the line of succession and withdraw his title, was indeed his own call, based on what he saw as a failure to understand and accept certain regal principles, such as dignity in public (the King allegedly disliked Nicholas being photographed and participating in sporting activities, such as cycling, ungroomed and folksy) and his wish to move out of Elisabeta Palace, and into an apartment, to be able to lead a more practical existence.

It would in many ways explain the statement made by the Royal House, about certain principles etc., and that there was no point looking for another reason, as there was none. It would also add to my view, that the King made an arbitrary decision based on outdated values, but that there most likely was a disconnect between grandfather and grandson about how royalty should present themselves and live.

If, and that's a big if, this is indeed the reasoning behind the removal of Nicholas from the Royal House, I am quite sure that it will be reversed after the passing of the King, and that the role of Nicholas in Romanian society is not over. Time is on his side on these matters, and it seems to me that the decision of the King will be understood one way, and the reversal of it accepted, as Nicholas frankly managed to get more respect and acceptance from many Romanians in his few years of service than most other members have in decades.
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Princess Margareta and Mr Radu Duda were part of the council that agreed (or even decided?) everything last year. That's why Mr Medforth Mills does not seem to have any dialogue with this couple at the moment.
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Old 07-18-2016, 03:36 AM
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Old 07-18-2016, 05:07 AM
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Isn't she Princess Thérèse d'Orléans, daughter of the Duke and Duchess d'Angoulême? Thérèse is a cousin to little Prince Joseph. Her parents Prince Eudes and Princess Marie-Liesse are uncle and aunt to the infant prince.
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Old 07-18-2016, 05:48 AM
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I am glad to see his first Pictures among Royals at a Royal and Family Event.
Well done Duke Jean de Vendome
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Old 07-18-2016, 06:33 AM
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Isn't she Princess Thérèse d'Orléans, daughter of the Duke and Duchess d'Angoulême? Thérèse is a cousin to little Prince Joseph. Her parents Prince Eudes and Princess Marie-Liesse are uncle and aunt to the infant prince.
She looks far older than princess Thérèse.
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Old 07-18-2016, 06:55 AM
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Isn't she Princess Thérèse d'Orléans, daughter of the Duke and Duchess d'Angoulême? Thérèse is a cousin to little Prince Joseph. Her parents Prince Eudes and Princess Marie-Liesse are uncle and aunt to the infant prince.
It is not Thérèse d'Orléans. Here is Thérèse with her family at the christening.
"Prince Eudes of Orleans, Duke of Angouleme and his wife Princess Marie-Liesse of Orleans, Duchess of Angouleme with their children Prince Pierre and Princess Therese".
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It was a wonderful gesture of the Orleans to invite Mr Medforth Mills who is a descendant of the Orleans in female line himself.
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Old 07-18-2016, 07:40 AM
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It was a wonderful gesture of the Orleans to invite Mr Medforth Mills who is a descendant of the Orleans in female line himself.
Nicholas indeed has an Orléans great-great-grandmother and two Orléans great-great-great-grandparents:

Parents
Robin Medforth-Mills
HRH Princess Elena of Romania, Princess of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen

Materal grandparents
HM King Michael of Romania, Prince of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
HRH Princess Anne de Bourbon de Parme

The parents of his grandmother Queen Anne
HRH Prince René de Bourbon de Parme
HRH Princess Margrethe of Denmark

The grandparents of his grandmother Queen Anne
HRH Prince Robert de Bourbon de Parme, Duke of Parma
HRH D. Antónia de Bragança, Infanta of Portugal
HRH Prince Valdemar of Denmark
HRH Princess Marie d'Orléans

The great-grandparents of his grandmother Queen Anne
HRH Prince Carlos III de Bourbon de Parme, Duke of Parma
HRH Princess Louise de France
HM King Miguel I of Portugal
HH Princess Adelheid von Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenborg **
HM King Christian IX of Denmark
HH Princess Luise von Hessen-Kassel (a niece of Christian VIII of Denmark, a cousin of Frederik VII of Denmark)
HRH Prince Robert d'Orléans, Duc de Chartres (grandson of King Louis Philippe of France)
HRH Princess Françoise d'Orléans (granddaughter of King Louis Philippe of France)

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= grandmother of Queen Elisabeth of the Belgians née Duchess in Bavaria, grandmother of Grand-Duchess Marie-Adelheid of Luxembourg, grandmother of Grand-Duchess Charlotte of Luxembourg, grandmother of Queen Marie Louise of Bulgaria, grandmother of Empress Zita of Austria, Queen of Hungary
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Old 07-18-2016, 06:04 PM
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Nicholas indeed has an Orléans great-great-grandmother and two Orléans great-great-great-grandparents:

Parents
Robin Medforth-Mills
HRH Princess Elena of Romania, Princess of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen

Materal grandparents
HM King Michael of Romania, Prince of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
HRH Princess Anne de Bourbon de Parme

The parents of his grandmother Queen Anne
HRH Prince René de Bourbon de Parme
HRH Princess Margrethe of Denmark

The grandparents of his grandmother Queen Anne
HRH Prince Robert de Bourbon de Parme, Duke of Parma
HRH D. Antónia de Bragança, Infanta of Portugal
HRH Prince Valdemar of Denmark
HRH Princess Marie d'Orléans

The great-grandparents of his grandmother Queen Anne
HRH Prince Carlos III de Bourbon de Parme, Duke of Parma
HRH Princess Louise de France
HM King Miguel I of Portugal
HH Princess Adelheid von Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenborg **
HM King Christian IX of Denmark
HH Princess Luise von Hessen-Kassel (a niece of Christian VIII of Denmark, a cousin of Frederik VII of Denmark)
HRH Prince Robert d'Orléans, Duc de Chartres (grandson of King Louis Philippe of France)
HRH Princess Françoise d'Orléans (granddaughter of King Louis Philippe of France)

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= grandmother of Queen Elisabeth of the Belgians née Duchess in Bavaria, grandmother of Grand-Duchess Marie-Adelheid of Luxembourg, grandmother of Grand-Duchess Charlotte of Luxembourg, grandmother of Queen Marie Louise of Bulgaria, grandmother of Empress Zita of Austria, Queen of Hungary
He is also a descendant in female line from King Charles X of France.
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Yes.

Charles X and Marie Therese of Savoy
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Charles Ferdinand, Duke of Berry m. Marie-Caorline of Bourbon-Sicily
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Princess Louise Marie m. Charles III, Duke of Parma
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Robert I Duke of Parma m. Marie Antonia of Portugal
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Rene of Bourbon Parma m. Margaret of Denmark
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Anne of Bourbon Parma m. Michael of Romania
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Elena of Romania m. Robin MM
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Nicholas

Nicholas is descended from a few major royal families for certain. His mother's grandmother Antonia was the daughter of Miguel I of Portugal and granddaughter of Carlota of Spain, she herself a daughter of Charles IV of Spain.
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Old 07-19-2016, 02:17 AM
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Yes.

Charles X and Marie Therese of Savoy
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Charles Ferdinand, Duke of Berry m. Marie-Caorline of Bourbon-Sicily
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Princess Louise Marie m. Charles III, Duke of Parma
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Robert I Duke of Parma m. Marie Antonia of Portugal
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Rene of Bourbon Parma m. Margaret of Denmark
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Anne of Bourbon Parma m. Michael of Romania
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Elena of Romania m. Robin MM
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Nicholas

Nicholas is descended from a few major royal families for certain. His mother's grandmother Antonia was the daughter of Miguel I of Portugal and granddaughter of Carlota of Spain, she herself a daughter of Charles IV of Spain.
The "blue blood" of Nicholas Medforth-Mills is of the same thickness as that of Doña Leonor, the Princess of Asturias, to name someone. Both Nicholas and Leonor have a full royalborn parent, with full royalborn grandparents, etcetera. Nicholas has darker "blue blood" than many other royals in reigning monarchies.
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Old 07-19-2016, 06:10 AM
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The "blue blood" of Nicholas Medforth-Mills is of the same thickness as that of Doña Leonor, the Princess of Asturias, to name someone. Both Nicholas and Leonor have a full royalborn parent, with full royalborn grandparents, etcetera. Nicholas has darker "blue blood" than many other royals in reigning monarchies.
The problem is not his extraordinary rich royal genealogy but his relationship with members of his mother's family.
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Old 07-27-2016, 08:40 PM
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One of the articles about Nicholas' attendance at the baptism of Prince Joseph d'Orléans.

DEZVALUIRI | Principele Nicolae cu o misterioasa bruneta la botezul fiului Prințului Jean de Orléans

It would be interesting to know who the young lady is in his company.

The Duke and Duchess of Vendôme would likely only allow serious "plus ones" to come along with guests.
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The lady in question is lovely. They look nice as a couple.
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The new National Convention for Constitutional Monarchy was established last weekend in Alba Iulia. Will the royalists favour Mr Medforth Mills again or will favour the Hohenzollerns?

Înmormântarea REGINEI ANA. Convenția Națională pentru Monarhie Constițutională s-a născut, DISCRET, sâmbătă la ALBA IULIA
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Given that you seem to be a big advocate of these organizations, and based on your extremely vocal support of the Hohenzollerns, it is fair to deduce that this new umbrella group comprised of smaller monarchist associations will back the Hohenzollerns of Sigmaringen.

In which case these posts do not really belong here, but probably in either the thread about the Romanian succession or that regarding the Princely House of Hohenzollern.

This seems to be a rather distasteful discussion for people to be having at a time when the Royal Family has just been struck by the death of Her Majesty Queen Anne.
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Given that you seem to be a big advocate of these organizations, and based on your extremely vocal support of the Hohenzollerns, it is fair to deduce that this new umbrella group comprised of smaller monarchist associations will back the Hohenzollerns of Sigmaringen.

In which case these posts do not really belong here, but probably in either the thread about the Romanian succession or that regarding the Princely House of Hohenzollern.

This seems to be a rather distasteful discussion for people to be having at a time when the Royal Family has just been struck by the death of Her Majesty Queen Anne.
This is an important event for the monarchists and unfortunatele the majority of the threads of the Romanian Forum continue to be closed.
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This is an important event for the monarchists and unfortunatele the majority of the threads of the Romanian Forum continue to be closed.
Regardless of how "important" it is at this time, the news is only relevant here if it has to do with Nicholas.
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