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Old 07-30-2015, 05:57 PM
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In the case of his marriage with a Catholic Princess will he accept his children to be raised as Catholics and give a strong message about the freedom of conscience and the equality of denominations in the country?
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Old 07-31-2015, 02:28 AM
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Sure if Nicolae go to live in the country of a Catholic Princess
This did not happen in any other country and i don't think so Nicolae he need to proove anything.
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Old 08-09-2015, 05:49 PM
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He needs to prove that His Family allows freedom of conscience.
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Old 08-09-2015, 06:32 PM
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We must agree that disagree
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Old 08-09-2015, 07:03 PM
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Why should somebody be forced to raise his children as Orthodox?
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Old 08-09-2015, 07:07 PM
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Why should an Orthodox individual be forced to not raise his children Orthodox?

Why assume that there is any force at all? Why not assume that the two parents from different religions have had a discussion - even multiple discussions - regarding the religion of their children before hand and accept that whatever way their child is raised is the way that they have agreed upon?
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Old 08-09-2015, 07:12 PM
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If he marries a Catholic Princess it will be a problem: the Fundamental new Rules of the Family asks all members to be Orthodox so that Catholic Princess won't be allowed to raise her children as Catholics.
This is all about religious freedom. This Family does nor represent only those that are Orthodox.
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Old 08-09-2015, 07:33 PM
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Yes, but Cory you're assuming that if Nicholas marries a Catholic and they raise their children as Orthodox then he is forcing his wife to give up her religion/raise her children that way.

Which is ridiculous.

It's more logical to assume that knowing the rules regarding religion, Nicholas is seeking a bride who would be willing to raise their children Orthodox, as raising his children Orthodox is something that is important to him.

We don't assume that Willem-Alexander forced Maxima to raise her children Dutch reform, but rather that she decided that doing so was something she was willing to do for her relationship. We don't assume that Peter Phillips forced Autumn to convert to Anglicanism, but rather that she decided she was willing to do so for her relationship. There are more than a few cases of modern royal consorts choosing to raise their children in a religion different than the one that they follow, or choosing to convert to their husband's religion, and it's silly to think that in the 21st century where arranged marriages are mostly a thing of the past in the Western world that these women (and men) are doing so out of force.

If Nicholas marries a Catholic who converts or who chooses to raise her children Orthodox it says nothing about the Romanian Royal Family so much as it says something about Nicholas and his wife - namely that to her, her relationship was more important than her religion.
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Old 08-09-2015, 08:53 PM
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All of this discussion seems rather premature until Nicholas actually announces an engagement to a Catholic princess--which would be quite a coup.
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Old 08-10-2015, 01:03 AM
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It is quite normal for royal families to require their members belong to a certain sect, it is tradition, there was a time when protestants, Catholics and Orthodox Christians fought each other. The spouse marrying into the family is no doubt aware of the requirement. It isn't like they all aren't Christians of some sort.
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Old 08-10-2015, 10:47 AM
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Nicolae is not a prince anymore. This is a breaking news in Romania. King Michael excluded him from he line of succesion. We don't know the reason for the moment, we will find soon.
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Old 08-10-2015, 10:58 AM
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We are waiting empress sissi . Thanks for the information.
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:08 AM
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Majestatea Sa Regele Mihai a retras nepotului său Nicolae, fiul Principesei Elena, titlul de „Principe al României” È™i calificativul de „Alteță Regală” | Casa Regală a României

I'm shocked.

What is the King thinking? Will he recognize the Hohenzollerns as his successors?
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:14 AM
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Nicolae is not a prince anymore. This is a breaking news in Romania. King Michael excluded him from he line of succesion. We don't know the reason for the moment, we will find soon.

What?? After all the work Nicolae has put into his royal role something serious must've happened for the King to make such a move. Could it even be that Nicolae wanted out and requested it himself? This spells trouble for the future of the royal family in Romania. Hope we get more news soon,
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:17 AM
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If there was any chance of a restoration of the Monarchy in Romania, it's over now.
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:21 AM
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I think is better to wait to find what happen.
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:26 AM
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... His Majesty said that the Romanian royal family and the society of those times will need a government under the sign of modesty, well-balanced, with morals, respect and always thinking of others.
Keeping the same affection to his nephew, king Michael hopes that Nicholas would find, in future years, a suitable way to serve the ideals and use the qualities with which God endowed.
HRH Princess Elena, the mother of Nicholas, received notification of this decision through a personal letter sent by His Majesty King.
Anunţul Regelui Mihai I de România_ Nicolae nu mai este principe al României _ REALITATEA .NET
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:28 AM
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It's really a shocking news. Why did he give him title of prince then?

It's confusing. I don't see any reason.

According to some sources, Nicolae and his mother were unaware of this decision.
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:29 AM
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For those of us who do not speak or read Romanian, here is a rough translation (via google translate) of the text of the announcement:

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The Press Office of His Majesty King Michael I is authorized to transmit the following statement:

"On August 1, 2015, His Majesty King Mihai signed a document to withdrew his grandson Nicholas, son of Princess Elena, the title of Prince of Romania and the title of Royal Highness and also to excluded Nicholas in line of succession to the Crown of Romania. These decisions came into effect the same day.

As head of the House and the Royal Family of Romania, King Mihai took the above decisions with an eye to Romania times to come after the end of the reign and life of his daughter, Margaret, Custodian of the Crown. His Majesty said the royal family and the Romanian society of those days will need a government under the sign of modesty, well-balanced, with morals, respect and always thinking of others.

Keeping the same affection to his nephew, Michael hopes that Nicholas will find, in future years, a suitable way to serve the ideals and use the qualities with which God endowed.

HRH Princess Elena, the mother of Nicholas, received notification of this decision, in a personal letter sent by His Majesty King.
I must say that I am shocked by this news and although we have no idea as yet why King Michael has made this decision, my initial reaction is that granting styles and titles and setting out some kind of future to go with those styles and titles changed the course of Nicolas's life and seemingly changing that after just a few years is very strange.
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:31 AM
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I don't understand anything. Anyone else?
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