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Old 07-12-2016, 12:17 PM
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Michael and Angelica Kreuger

The only granchildren of the King that are married and have children are Michael and Angelica Kreuger. They both visited Romania after the fall of comunism but are less known to the Romanians than their Medforth Mills cousins.
When have they visited Romania last time?
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Old 07-12-2016, 12:28 PM
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Since King Michael, in one of his whims, publicly desavoued their mother, I doubt there is ample reason to visit Romania. Only aunt Margareta lives there.
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Since King Michael, in one of his whims, publicly desavoued their mother, I doubt there is ample reason to visit Romania. Only aunt Margareta lives there.
I do not think there was any official statement of the King regarding these grandchildren being desavoured.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:56 PM
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One of Irina's children visited either Romania or Switzerland within the last years along with at least one of her own children.

This was undertaken in order to visit Their Majesties.

However, this trip was strictly private.
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I do not think there was any official statement of the King regarding these grandchildren being desavoured.
For a cockfight (!) a royalborn Princess was stripped off her position, including her children which have zero comma zero involvement in that. And this while their French aunt and cousine, personas non grata because of the fraud and imposter Alain Biarneix, were taken back in grace and favour. Like Elisabeth had zero comma zero to do with her father's wrongdoings, so have Michael and Angelica nothing to do with their mother's wrongdoings. I classify the harsh and humiliating treatment of Princess Irina, and in her slipstream her children, a public desavouing indeed.
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For a cockfight (!) a royalborn Princess was stripped off her position, including her children which have zero comma zero involvement in that. And this while their French aunt and cousine, personas non grata because of the fraud and imposter Alain Biarneix, were taken back in grace and favour. Like Elisabeth had zero comma zero to do with her father's wrongdoings, so have Michael and Angelica nothing to do with their mother's wrongdoings. I classify the harsh and humiliating treatment of Princess Irina, and in her slipstream her children, a public desavouing indeed.
Michael Kreuger and Angelica Kreuger Knight do not live with their mother and had nothing to do with her trial.
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For a cockfight (!) a royalborn Princess was stripped off her position, including her children which have zero comma zero involvement in that. And this while their French aunt and cousine, personas non grata because of the fraud and imposter Alain Biarneix, were taken back in grace and favour. Like Elisabeth had zero comma zero to do with her father's wrongdoings, so have Michael and Angelica nothing to do with their mother's wrongdoings. I classify the harsh and humiliating treatment of Princess Irina, and in her slipstream her children, a public desavouing indeed.

You may not be aware of this, but animal cruelty is quite a serious crime, and cockfighting in particular had been outlawed in the U.S. because of its extremely violent nature.

Irina was not stripped of her title and succession rights for "a [mere] cockfight." It was determined in court that she had participated in this illegal venture several times, going so far as to prepare food for attendees of these events, which were held on her property. Whether she was fully aware of the severity of her participation in these activities is debatable, but her husband, who is a former OR sheriff, would certainly have known better.

Regardless, it had been communicated by persons who actually know many of the members of the Romanian royal family that the Kreuger issue of Irina do not have close ties to their maternal family. If you read the statements that Irina's daughter gave during her mother's court case, you learn that Irina became rather isolated from all of her family after her second marriage. This is regrettable mais c'est la vie.
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Usually it requires quite substantial acts like levying war against the sovereign and adhering to the sovereign's enemies, giving them assistance or comfort or acts like attempting to undermine the lawfully established line of succession, which leads to such drastic steps like wat was done to Her Royal Highness Princess Irina of Romania and her children. With all respect, cockfights do not fill in that category.


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Michael Kreuger and Angelica Kreuger Knight do not live with their mother and had nothing to do with her trial.
Which underlines my point that it was unlogical to remove these Americans from their position in the Royal House. In essence they are the same as their British cousins (Nicholas and Karina) and their French cousine (Elisabeth) but they were cast out for something they had no any involvement with. "Justice" ā la Michael...
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You may not be aware of this, but animal cruelty is quite a serious crime, and cockfighting in particular had been outlawed in the U.S. because of its extremely violent nature.

Irina was not stripped of her title and succession rights for "a [mere] cockfight." It was determined in court that she had participated in this illegal venture several times, going so far as to prepare food for attendees of these events, which were held on her property. Whether she was fully aware of the severity of her participation in these activities is debatable, but her husband, who is a former OR sheriff, would certainly have known better.

Regardless, it had been communicated by persons who actually know many of the members of the Romanian royal family that the Kreuger issue of Irina do not have close ties to their maternal family. If you read the statements that Irina's daughter gave during her mother's court case, you learn that Irina became rather isolated from all of her family after her second marriage. This is regrettable mais c'est la vie.
So her children had nothing to do with the event but they were nevertheless put aside by the Family. Hard to understand...
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Which underlines my point that it was unlogical to remove these Americans from their position in the Royal House. In essence they are the same as their British cousins (Nicholas and Karina) and their French cousine (Elisabeth) but they were cast out for something they had no any involvement with. "Justice" ā la Michael...
So they were treated in a very unjust way and no statement was given by thecFamily anyway.
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Will they travel to Romania next week for the Funeral ofvtheir grandmother?
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