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Old 03-12-2018, 08:00 PM
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Has the Princess ever expressed her intention to stand for the Presidency of Romania?
She supported her husband when he wanted to become president if the republic but she have never publicly said she would do the same.
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The support she gave to her husband nine years ago and an hypothetical candidature of herself are quite two different things and not necessarily correlated, IMO.
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The support she gave to her husband nine years ago and an hypothetical candidature of herself are quite two different things and not necessarily correlated, IMO.
When she did not see any problem to become the wife of a possible president of the republic she seemed to forget that her father had always stated the republic had no legitimacy. That was the start of her more or less public contradiction with the monarchists.
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When she did not see any problem to become the wife of a possible president of the republic she seemed to forget that her father had always stated the republic had no legitimacy. That was the start of her more or less public contradiction with the monarchists.
Of course the republic had legitimacy for King Michael. He had no any problem whatsoever with doing business and making arrangements with the Republic, for an example about the use of Elisabeta Palace and the return of former royal properties. You can not do so when you claim the other side has no legitimacy.

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Of course the republic had legitimacy for King Michael. He had no any problem whatsoever with doing business and making arrangements with the Republic, for an example about the use of Elisabeta Palace and the return of former royal properties. You can not do so when you claim the other side has no legitimacy.

The King had always said the abolition of Monarchy and the coming of republic was illegal. This does not mean he did not asked his properties back as anybody else.
The Kings views were hardly continued by some members of his own Family.
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Like the late King, also his daughters understand the daily reality of Romania anno 2018.
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When she did not see any problem to become the wife of a possible president of the republic she seemed to forget that her father had always stated the republic had no legitimacy. That was the start of her more or less public contradiction with the monarchists.
First of all, the fact that she supported Radu when he announced his candidature to the Presidency and the fact that King Michael contested the leitimacy of his abdication have nothing to do with rumors about an hypotethical candidature of Margareta to the Presidency of Romania.

Secondly, we may all agree that the abdication of King Michael in 1947 was extorted. Still, King Michael and his whole family clearly with the passing of the time have accepted the status quo. When he accepter a passport of the Republic of Romania, when he accepted the benefits given him by the Republic of Romania because he was a former Head of State of the Country, when he negotiated with the authorities of the Republic of Romania, when he accepted invitations from the Parliament of the Republic of Romania, when in 2007 he proposed new rules of succession to be approved by the Romanian Parliament after and in case of a restoration, both King Michael and his whole family showed to accept the current situation and form of government of Romania.
And clearly they have showed to be far more realistic and reasonable than all those royalists who pretend to live in a "de iure" world as if nothing has happened and changed since the early 1940s (if not before).
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First of all, the fact that she supported Radu when he announced his candidature to the Presidency and the fact that King Michael contested the leitimacy of his abdication have nothing to do with rumors about an hypotethical candidature of Margareta to the Presidency of Romania.

Secondly, we may all agree that the abdication of King Michael in 1947 was extorted. Still, King Michael and his whole family clearly with the passing of the time have accepted the status quo. When he accepter a passport of the Republic of Romania, when he accepted the benefits given him by the Republic of Romania because he was a former Head of State of the Country, when he negotiated with the authorities of the Republic of Romania, when he accepted invitations from the Parliament of the Republic of Romania, when in 2007 he proposed new rules of succession to be approved by the Romanian Parliament after and in case of a restoration, both King Michael and his whole family showed to accept the current situation and form of government of Romania.
And clearly they have showed to be far more realistic and reasonable than all those royalists who pretend to live in a "de iure" world as if nothing has happened and changed since the early 1940s (if not before).
To dialogue with the " de facto" authorities does not imply to fully recognize them as " de iure" authorities. King Mihai had very clear ideas about it but he strongly believed in the restoration of Monarchy.

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Like the late King, also his daughters understand the daily reality of Romania anno 2018.
Only two of them live in the country and none of them speak a perfect Romanian. Do they really understand the complex post-communist Romanian realities?
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Only two of them live in the country and none of them speak a perfect Romanian. Do they really understand the complex post-communist Romanian realities?
Oh, the famous, mysterious and complex Romanian relities, unintelligible to most, that you always mention but which have never been specified.
Please, could you once for all explain us what exactly are those "Romanian realities" and who on earth - apart from you - could be able to understand them?
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Oh, the famous, mysterious and complex Romanian relities, unintelligible to most, that you always mention but which have never been specified.
Please, could you once for all explain us what exactly are those "Romanian realities" and who on earth - apart from you - could be able to understand them?
Romania has a very complex reality that somebody that lives abroad can hardly understand. It is a country with regions with strong identity and different history, the Romanians are very proud of their language and of their cultural heritage. Somebody that does not speak properly Romanian but pretends to be Romanian is hardly fully accepted by the people.
The communist "heritage" is still strong and politics is dominated by post-communist. Corruption is very present in the society at all levels.
Princesses that came after 1989 obviously tried their best to understand the reality if the country but it is not easy and many believed they trust the advisers chosen for them.
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Romania has a very complex reality that somebody that lives abroad can hardly understand. It is a country with regions with strong identity and different history, the Romanians are very proud of their language and of their cultural heritage. Somebody that does not speak properly Romanian but pretends to be Romanian is hardly fully accepted by the people.
The communist "heritage" is still strong and politics is dominated by post-communist. Corruption is very present in the society at all levels.
Princesses that came after 1989 obviously tried their best to understand the reality if the country but it is not easy and many believed they trust the advisers chosen for them.
So we can rule out foreign born Nicholas then, who is still learning proper Romanian. The same counts for the German speaking Hohenzollerns. Seen in this optic theate King's nephew and his line deserve support from "the royalists",.
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So we can rule out foreign born Nicholas then, who is still learning proper Romanian. The same counts for the German speaking Hohenzollerns. Seen in this optic theate King's nephew and his line deserve support from "the royalists",.
Which nephew? The one that was born in Paris, struggles to speak the language, and is facing corruption charges? Or the one that was born in Dorset, and does not speak the language at all, and has lived in the United States for most of his life?

Crown Princess Margarita, Princess Marie, and Prince Nicholas are all eminently qualified; their grasp of Romanian far surpasses the linguistic abilities of any of the other members of their family.
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So we can rule out foreign born Nicholas then, who is still learning proper Romanian. The same counts for the German speaking Hohenzollerns. Seen in this optic theate King's nephew and his line deserve support from "the royalists",.
The Hohenzollerns do not pretend they speak Romanian.
From all the descendants of the King, Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills speaks the best Romanian.
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The Hohenzollerns do not pretend they speak Romanian.
From all the descendants of the King, Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills speaks the best Romanian.
Better Romanian than his mother and his four aunts?
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Better Romanian than his mother and his four aunts?
Princess Margareta speaks Romanian better than her sisters but Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills has improved his knowledge of the language faster.
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Margareta, as soon as she could, moved to Romania and has been living permanently there for nearly 30 years. I think it's very evident that she has done the possible to integrate herself in Romania, and I also believe she should be given credit for this.
In addition, she is married to a man who - one may like him or not - is definitely Romanian and the most Romanian of the whole Royal Family; I'd guess that he has some good chance to understand the Romanian situations and realisies, and probably is also able to give Margarets some help in understanding them too (if she needed it, of course).
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Princess Margareta speaks Romanian better than her sisters but Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills has improved his knowledge of the language faster.
It is a Romance (i.e. neo-Latin) language, albeit with lots of Slavic words and a somewhat idiosyncratic grammar. It shouldn't be particularly difficult to learn though in a reasonable amount of time.
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It is a Romance (i.e. neo-Latin) language, albeit with lots of Slavic words and a somewhat idiosyncratic grammar. It shouldn't be particularly difficult to learn though in a reasonable amount of time.
If somebody hasn't learnt it well in more than 25 years it will be difficult to learn it better in the future. It is certainly a complex language.
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