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it is said of Queen Marie : that in the coburg aviary, she was a very rare bird indeed....of the characters of the two royal houses represented by her parentage....matter of fact british and mystical russian... she took her colour, almost entirely from her mother's side of the family !!
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Quenn Mariua was really the "last romantic".But she has a sad destiny because of her son Carol II.
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Carol was unstable. Interestingly he turned out not unlike Paul I of Russia who hated his mother Catherine the Great. There were some similarities of upbringing.
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Carol was jealous of (Prince) Barbu Stirbey but was also very angry Queen Maria did not really accept Elena Lupesescu.
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Carol was jealous of (Prince) Barbu Stirbey but was also very angry Queen Maria did not really accept Elena Lupesescu.
Would you when he had a perfectly lovely wife who knew how to act? Granted Helen spent too much time with her mother Queen Sophie which lead to the deterioration of their marriage, however, Carol was abdicting and relenquishing his duties waaay before then. Missy and Nando were both brought up to put duty and their country first. Carol did not. Not unlike Paul I.
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Quenn Marria could not really educate her son because of King Carol I.
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Quenn Marria could not really educate her son because of King Carol I.
Not unlike Paul I of Russia who was taken away by his mother by Empress Elizabeth.
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But Carol II was not so menthally instable as Paul I of Russia.He had some problems because of his mistresses of couse but...

Queen Maria truted Barbu Stirbey too much and somebody suggested they were more than close friends.
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But Carol II was not so menthally instable as Paul I of Russia.He had some problems because of his mistresses of couse but...

Queen Maria truted Barbu Stirbey too much and somebody suggested they were more than close friends.
Stirbey and Missy loved each other. He also tutored Marie in policy. Which was actually to Romania's benefit. Especially since Nando was not the firmest ruler. It is said that Marie's last child was fathered by Stirbey. ("Born to Rule")

Carol II did not put his country first. He was mean spirited and selfish. Not unlike Paul I.
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Nobody really knows if (Prince) Barbu Stirbey was the real father of little Mircea but surely Stirbey was very influent in politics between 1914-1930 and also between 1940-1945.
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Nobody really knows if (Prince) Barbu Stirbey was the real father of little Mircea but surely Stirbey was very influent in politics between 1914-1930 and also between 1940-1945.
Wouldn't surprise me as they (Born to Rule) claim GD Boris as the father of Mignon. Marie was a "romantic" and a bit loose IMO, though nobody could deny she was a mover and a shaker and did a lot of good for Romania.
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I don't suppose GD Boris had really an affair with the future Quen Maria.
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I don't suppose GD Boris had really an affair with the future Quen Maria.
In "Born to Rule" it states Queen Marie told the King Carol I that her child was GD Boris. Also see Sullivan's "Fatal passion" about Ducky (Victoria Melita). Ducky and Missy were always close.
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Maybe Queen Maria told something to King Carol I but undoubtely nobody really believed that.Romanian books of history have never sustained something like that.
It is instead very trued that she was very close to Ducky.
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Maybe Queen Maria told something to King Carol I but undoubtely nobody really believed that.Romanian books of history have never sustained something like that.
It is instead very trued that she was very close to Ducky.
You might want to do more research. The Romanian court at the time was very, VERY loose. In fact, many were worried about Marie as the liasons, divorces, and remarriages at the Romanian court were happening faster than people could breathe. . . .

Also, while Queen Marie was in America, she told Alice Roosevelt Longworth that Mignon was her "love child". See Alice's memoirs.
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The Romanian Court was not really like this.King Carol I and Queen Elisabeta were not in favour of immorality.
We must make the difference between rumours and sure things.
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The Romanian Court was not really like this.King Carol I and Queen Elisabeta were not in favour of immorality.
We must make the difference between rumours and sure things.
Which is why I cited several references which support my views.
And what are your references?
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I was speaking about romanian history books.
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I was speaking about romanian history books.
I'm sure. And we all know that Communist/Socialist-block states are ALWAYS truthful and accurate, don't we??
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I am speaking about history books made after 1989.Some byographies of Queen Maria written in English are maybe more basen on rumors and gossips .Even id...I don't know her real relation with GD Boris but in her Memoirs she seemed to admire him quite a lot.
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