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Old 08-10-2016, 11:32 PM
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Let us pray that all Romanian monarchists will do the very same thing!
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Let us pray that all Romanian monarchists will do the very same thing!
Hard to say what the Romanian monarchists now united in the National Convention fir Constitutional Monarchy will do.
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:53 PM
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If they truly care about the perpetuation of the Romanian Royal House and the continuation of a monarchical tradition in the country, then they will call for the return of Prince Nicholas.

They all supported him when he was in his role.

It would be fickle of them to abandon him.
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Old 08-11-2016, 04:46 AM
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If they truly care about the perpetuation of the Romanian Royal House and the continuation of a monarchical tradition in the country, then they will call for the return of Prince Nicholas.

They all supported him when he was in his role.

It would be fickle of them to abandon him.
The monarchists care for the return of Monarchy.
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Old 08-11-2016, 05:08 AM
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Why are you so worried? Shouldn't you be wondering about what some Prince of Hohenzollern has studied?
From this more private family than the Romanian royal family we know that the present Fürst has followed the Gymnasium at a boarding school in Sankt Gallen, Switzerland. After his compulsory military service in the Bundeswehr, the Fürst continued his education: Economics in Freiburg (Germany) and Bern (Switzerland).

His son, Erbprinz Alexander, is still studying: after the Gymnasium in Sigmaringen, he is completing his study in International Business Sciences in Frankfurt (Germany).
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Old 08-11-2016, 05:28 AM
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From this more private family than the Romanian royal family we know that the present Fürst has followed the Gymnasium at a boarding school in Sankt Gallen, Switzerland. After his compulsory military service in the Bundeswehr, the Fürst continued his education: Economics in Freiburg (Germany) and Bern (Switzerland).

His son, Erbprinz Alexander, is still studying: after the Gymnasium in Sigmaringen, he is completing his study in International Business Sciences in Frankfurt (Germany).
So we know more about the studies of the Hohenzollerns than about the studies of the grandaughter of the King.
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Old 08-11-2016, 07:58 AM
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So we know more about the studies of the Hohenzollerns than about the studies of the grandaughter of the King.
Which is irrelevant, seeing as the Hohenzollerns have shown zero interest in the Romanian throne and will not be a part of the future of a desired monarchy in Romania. There are lots of people we know more about than a person like Elisabeta-Karina, seeing as we know close to nothing about this private citizen.
It's not difficult to see that, as Benjamin says, the only realistic way for the monarchy to be restored, is to call for the restoration of Nicholas in the line of succession and in line for the headship of the family after his aunt. Nothing else will bring the monarchy back.
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:14 AM
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If they truly care about the perpetuation of the Romanian Royal House and the continuation of a monarchical tradition in the country, then they will call for the return of Prince Nicholas.

They all supported him when he was in his role.

It would be fickle of them to abandon him.
Not the monarchusts abandoned him but somebody else.
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Old 08-11-2016, 09:52 AM
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Not the monarchusts abandoned him but somebody else.
Maybe not all monarchists did, but you seem to have.

Doing so shows a lack of resolution and dedication to the monarchic cause.

Also, it further underlines the phenomena that so many people, whether they live in Romania or abroad, in the some of these smaller monarchist movements are experiencing. They start to believe that their view of things is actually more important than that of the Royal House of their country; they become "plus royaliste que le Roi"; they disrespect King Michael and try to tarnish his legacy. They forget their place in the order of things; the case of Marilena Rotaru is a good example of this.
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Maybe not all monarchists did, but you seem to have.

Doing so shows a lack of resolution and dedication to the monarchic cause.

Also, it further underlines the phenomena that so many people, whether they live in Romania or abroad, in the some of these smaller monarchist movements are experiencing. They start to believe that their view of things is actually more important than that of the Royal House of their country; they become "plus royaliste que le Roi"; they disrespect King Michael and try to tarnish his legacy. They forget their place in the order of things; the case of Marilena Rotaru is a good example of this.
Mrs Rotaru is very loyal to the King and the most respected monarchist in Romania.
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:37 AM
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Maybe not all monarchists did, but you seem to have.

Doing so shows a lack of resolution and dedication to the monarchic cause.

Also, it further underlines the phenomena that so many people, whether they live in Romania or abroad, in the some of these smaller monarchist movements are experiencing. They start to believe that their view of things is actually more important than that of the Royal House of their country; they become "plus royaliste que le Roi"; they disrespect King Michael and try to tarnish his legacy. They forget their place in the order of things; the case of Marilena Rotaru is a good example of this.
Do I read between your lines that former King Michael had no idea what he did when Nicholas was thrown out of his own fabricated line of succession, making the unknown and private Karina the future heiress?
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Hard to demonstrate such a theory.
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:47 AM
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Mrs Rotaru is very loyal to the King and the most respected monarchist in Romania.
The word loyal is awfully misplaced in this case, and this person has no relevance in a thread about the young woman to whom it is dedicated.
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Do I read between your lines that former King Michael had no idea what he did when Nicholas was thrown out of his own fabricated line of succession, making the unknown and private Karina the future heiress?
Harly is she considered a heiress of the family. They did not even try to present her with a title.
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The entire monarchist cause should die along with King Mihai and the last person to nurture the royal tradition of Romania should be Crown Princess Margarita. All the others should go their way and do not bother anyone with their ridiculous claims. IMO
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The entire monarchist cause should die along with King Mihai and the last person to nurture the royal tradition of Romania should be Crown Princess Margarita. All the others should go their way and do not bother with their ridiculous claims. IMO
The monarchist cause is stronger than ever and is not really connected with the Princess and even less with her niece.
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The monarchist cause is stronger than ever and is not really connected with the Princess and even less with her niece.
In what can we see this strength?
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Old 08-11-2016, 12:07 PM
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It's not difficult to see that, as Benjamin says, the only realistic way for the monarchy to be restored, is to call for the restoration of Nicholas in the line of succession and in line for the headship of the family after his aunt. Nothing else will bring the monarchy back.
I think you are absolutely right. For me, the only real connection of King Mihai's family with the Royal tradition is and would be Margarita as all of her younger sisters led their own lives apart from the line plus as the oldest one she was naturally chosen and made that way by her father. After the King's death, she will be the symbol of former monarchy (anyway, I see no point she could restore the monarchy, but) and this will die naturally with her. The only possible, though with a very, very small and limited possobility, candidate to take over as the herald of the symbolic qualities once represented by the House of Romania is or WAS Nicholas. And by carrying the symbolic role I mean a true position as the custodian of the Royal past and traditions as seen by the people, not by a bunch of monarchists or by the claimants themselves. It is with the people that the tradition and respect can live on. Other way, it would be some monarchist/claimant crap no one would bother.
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In what can we see this strength?
Public support and unity.
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Old 08-11-2016, 12:11 PM
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I think you are absolutely right. For me, the only real connection of King Mihai's family with the Royal tradition is and would be Margarita as all of her younger sisters led their own lives apart from the line plus as the oldest one she was naturally chosen and made that way by her father. After the King's death, she will be the symbol of former monarchy (anyway, I see no point she could restore the monarchy, but) and this will die naturally with her. The only possible, though with a very, very small and limited possobility, candidate to take over as the herald of the symbolic qualities once represented by the House of Romania is or WAS Nicholas.
Not if the proposed legislation is passed in the fall that would give status to the royal house
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