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my father and my brothers wears national dress because it normal to wear I can not think to see them wears any thing ells
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06-01-2004, 03:46 PM
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Never read the book you're referencing. Did read a book about Saudi Aramaco about the corporate history. Not much about lifestyles of the rich and infamous but a good read about the interdependence of the Middle East monarchies and D.C. Also it is well known that the US was going to invade Abu Dhabi during the oil embargo but never did-thank goodness.
Alot of people read the "Princess" books about a Saudi Princess. I think they are absolutely crap. They are very sensational and dripping with details about wallpaper and chandaliers but give absolutely z-e-r-o cultural references that mean anything besides dollar value.
I know the Arab Culture classes at AUD are taught off of Bernard Lewis' books and they are taught by an Iraqi who says they are pretty decent read. Don't know how accurate a picture they paint of the ME, though. I would naturally be suspect of anything written about the ME with the help of the ruling families.
Of course, my favorite writer is Naguib Mafouz. He has won a Nobel Prize in Literature. His books are about Cairo and are set many years ago but the family dynamics at play in his books are spot on. When you read them-you feel you are part of the family. I would highly recommend them. They are absolutely brillant but nothing in them is about the Gulf.
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I don't put too much stock in the ghutra's either, Bubbette. They are a fashion accessory. The way a guy wears his head dress says alot about where he is from but not about his status-look at the way his dishdasha is made for that clue.
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06-01-2004, 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by houri@Jun 1st, 2004 - 3:40 pm
my father and my brothers wears national dress because it normal to wear I can not think to see them wears any thing ells
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Have you told your father and brother's that there about 10girls on the internet who obsess endlessly about the style/make/color of people's dishdashas? And after you tell them-do they laugh for hours on end?
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06-01-2004, 04:18 PM
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it's enough that I'm laughing 
I swear my father wears the shmag even when he go to sleep
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06-01-2004, 04:23 PM
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Okay, Houri, it has come to that time that you must have known would come.....cue the music please.......
Name your top 3 Gulfie Hotties. Full name and nationality, please.
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silver charm
there is only one
prince Bander bin khaled al faisal
from saudi arabia
I don't know if he the ( hotties ) but I'm sure that if he appear in tv I will not close my eyes even for second
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Originally posted by houri@Jun 1st, 2004 - 5:59 pm
silver charm
there is only one
prince Bander bin khaled al faisal
from saudi arabia
I don't know if he the ( hotties ) but I'm sure that if he appear in tv I will not close my eyes even for second
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picture please.......
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06-01-2004, 06:31 PM
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sorry no pic for him I tried to found any pic on the net but there is no result
even in the arabic sites
his grand father was the ex- king and his father prince of asir
pic for his father
http://www.arab3.com/images7/81332836.jpg
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Originally posted by houri@Jun 1st, 2004 - 6:31 pm
sorry no pic for him I tried to found any pic on the net but there is no result
even in the arabic sites
his grand father was the ex- king and his father prince of asir
pic for his father
http://www.arab3.com/images7/81332836.jpg
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yeah, i searched too. i found an article about him skiing in Megeve and some interviews with 'Pacifica'. i think it's a radio program.
oh well.......one less boy to lust for.
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Originally posted by silver charm@Jun 1st, 2004 - 8:46 pm
Never read the book you're referencing. Did read a book about Saudi Aramaco about the corporate history. Not much about lifestyles of the rich and infamous but a good read about the interdependence of the Middle East monarchies and D.C. Also it is well known that the US was going to invade Abu Dhabi during the oil embargo but never did-thank goodness.
Alot of people read the "Princess" books about a Saudi Princess. I think they are absolutely crap. They are very sensational and dripping with details about wallpaper and chandaliers but give absolutely z-e-r-o cultural references that mean anything besides dollar value.
I know the Arab Culture classes at AUD are taught off of Bernard Lewis' books and they are taught by an Iraqi who says they are pretty decent read. Don't know how accurate a picture they paint of the ME, though. I would naturally be suspect of anything written about the ME with the help of the ruling families.
Of course, my favorite writer is Naguib Mafouz. He has won a Nobel Prize in Literature. His books are about Cairo and are set many years ago but the family dynamics at play in his books are spot on. When you read them-you feel you are part of the family. I would highly recommend them. They are absolutely brillant but nothing in them is about the Gulf.
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Hi,
Thank you for your references Silver Charm. It's hard enough to find a book here about the ME and/or the Royalties. Most books are in Swedish, either originally written by Swedish authors or translated into Swedish, and ME Royalties is, as far as I know, not on the Top Ten-list. I'll see if Cairo is in store for me.
Houri, are you from Saudi Arabia?
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06-01-2004, 07:32 PM
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Hello Ladies
I am back and hopefully in a less dense state than yesterday. I had about 10 windows open and was working on 10 different things. So my apologies for missing your joke SC.
Oil Sheikhs...I have read the book. Unfortunately I found it very biased since I am familiar to the Gulf culture blah blah blah. The authour was Jewish and hence the trend to a "condescending" description. But hey, the pics are great. La la, check out Saud Al-Faisal there. It was during his peak years.
What else? Oh yes... the ghutra and the head dress. Since the head is the highest point on a man, the head dress denotes a kind of respect to that area. I don't know if I explained that properly. Anyway, you should never mess with the ghutra/aqal of a man wearing it. For example, if youa re in an extremely merry mood and think it is really funny to pull the ghutra off a guy's head (which I have seen certain people do), it is very insulting.
Another thing is that the Arabs are a very proud race and their deshdashes are a part of their heritage and by wearing it, they confirm their pride. It doesn't have anything to do with feeling superior.
SC: you have a point about the left side of SA. Now that I look at him with a different "eye", I see what you mean. Is this recent because when I last saw him, his face was fine. He was distributing smiles left and right.
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no La la I'm from kuwait 
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We've reached page 11! My last post was after page 10... I didn't know we were on 11 already.
SC: Naguib Mahfouz is fantastic! Dubai TV did a mini series on his Trilogy which was very good and very close to the story.
Houri: which Prince Bandar? Please don't tell me the Saudi ambassador to the US? Please sweetie...please 
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Ok, sorry, Layla. I'll delete it.
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06-01-2004, 07:40 PM
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Ok, sorry, Layla. I'll delete it.
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Wait wait.... sorry for what and delete what? Don't tell me it's the book thing. No sweetie, I just tried to elaborate why certain parts are weird. That's all. Here's a flower to make it up to you: :flower:
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06-01-2004, 07:46 PM
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Oh, you are so cute! :flower:
If anyone is wondering: I don't recommend the book!
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Originally posted by La la@Jun 1st, 2004 - 11:46 pm
Oh, you are so cute! :flower:
If anyone is wondering: I don't recommend the book!
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How could I ever hurt one of my favourite girls?
Is it my PC or is the message board really slow?
La la, I have a recent pic of SA with Queen Rania. I need to scan it so you can see him. I was looking for traces of a stroke but can't really make it out in this pic.
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06-01-2004, 07:53 PM
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 That's my girl!
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with Sheikh Ahmed. How many times do I have to tell you people? He is perfect in everyway.
As far as dishdashas (sp?), they can very well make the man. I am a big fan of the colored ones S. Hamdan and Rashid bin Mo wear. They fill them out very nicely if I do say so myself. I LOVE the deep blue one.
For the ghutra is there any significance between the red checkered one and the white one? I've seen Hamdan in both.
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