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Old 07-20-2006, 03:58 AM
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Thank you Houri, you understood correctly what I meant to say. The fact is Iran is only a stones throw away from the UAE and the rest of the eastern side of the arabian peninsula. It is to my knowledge that the ruling family of Sharjah, Al-Qassimi, openly states that they are originally from Iran and there was a time (before the 20th century) when Sharjah and Dubai were a part of Iran, just as previously Bahrain was also a part of Iran, called then Persia. I am not a historian, and I don't want to sound like a know-it-all..I could look up the dates if you want. But local Emirates themselves tell me this, otherwise I would not know about it. I have never heard or read the Al-Maktoum openly stating they have iranian origins, but Al-Qassimi does. If you look at the names of the upper aristocratic families in Dubai, many have iranian roots in terms of the etymology (which is the study of history of words and languages) of the word (not an arabian-bedouin origin) then there are those families in Dubai that do trace back to the arabian peninsula and not southern iran, and their family names and tribes have arabian origins in terms of history and etymology...so there are both types in the UAE..You can basically tell from the apprearance of the person.

Apparently, as it was explained to me by Dubai locals (as I am not from Dubai I am Kuwaiti) the Al-Qassimi and other Emirati families with iranian ties are part of the sunni-Irani sector as opposed to the majority Shia-sect of Iran and the iranian government. No one ever explained the exact details, but the story I was told goes something like they left iran after the islamic revolution and the fall of the shah (as did many iranian nationals who live in Dubai, but still have iranian passports..there is a HUGE Iranian national community in Dubai, apart from the Emirati national citizens with some iranian backgrounds).

Then on the other hand, I have had other emirati locals explain to me that Dubai and Sharjah used to be part of Iran and that they have always been in Dubai/Sharjah and never came from Iran, but were previousl considered to be a part of persia. I have met many here who are from the island of Kish in southern iran (close to Dubai) who claim to be complete Arabs, but in fact have iranian passports and speak both Arabic and Farsi, and sometimes marry with emiratis. And they get really upset and offended if you say they are iranian, I don't know why. So I think from an anthropological point of vue, it is just a matter of people who are close geographically mixing, and sharing their culture and influencing each others culture vice versa for many centuries. I don't mean to sound hitlerian about it, as I really don't care about race, and many anthropologists only consider various ethnic groups as opposed to 'races'...but that is not the issue here. I just don't want to offend anybody, and this is what the locals themselves say, and as I said Al-Qassimi is proudly from iranian backgrounds..but also consider themselves Arab. I think it is political really. When the British demarcated the Trucial States and then became UAE, they did not take into consideration these were actually the same peoples, and now they make differences between sharjah, between ras al khaimah, between Dubai etc...but I don't expect Al-Maktoum to claim to trace themselves back to iran, and I have never seen their geneology books (I know in Kuwait and in Bahrain, the royal family's geneology is kept under lock and key at their amiri diwans even though many websites claim to have 'geneologies' they don't have the official ones) so I am not claiming that they are iranian origin, I can only say Al-Qassimi is because they openly say so. I think people should be proud of their roots and origins no matter what the political climate is, and I admire Al-Qassimi for that. I only brought up the iranian connection to explain the meaning of the name 'Fazza'.
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Old 07-20-2006, 07:00 AM
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that girl is not fatima..fatima is born..8-jun-2006..that party was for fatima because she passed one month (40 days)..and shes the first grand-daughter of sheikh mohammed
i read in julfar history book..that al qassimi family are from iraq not iran
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Old 07-20-2006, 07:55 AM
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Hi,

I'm so glad that's the case, because I was beginning to wonder what was going on. I don't know why they featured that girl so promimently, it was confusing. But I am sooo glad I stand corrected:). Congratulations to them. Thanks Uae butterfly...What I said about Al-Qassimi is what people in Dubai have told me, but again I'm not an authority, so I'll take your word for it.
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Old 07-20-2006, 09:39 AM
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It has never been in press, but I saw his name on the list of students at Boston University when I was in college in the US, and he used to hang around a lot in Boston also...I don't know why his family has never printed this. I have never seen it mentioned even once. It would be better to show he has more education than just Sandhurst...It makes him look a little dumb, and he's not I'm sure. no offense to Sandhurst graduates but I never understood why some royals think it is the equivalent of a BA...Don't they know 'knowledge is power.' I believe in good old-fashioned education myself..the more the better..Hamdan is actually quite smart...even if someone knew where he lived, I think it would be crass to disclose it given security risks..wherever it is, I'm sure its palatial given the tastes of the al-maktoums and other gulf arabian royalty.

Hamdan has never been to university. if he was in boston as you say, how can you explane him being in the newspaper or on tv almost every week or two? I think the person you sew was someone with the same name . But as for hamdan bin mohammed bin rashed, he has not been to any university.
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Old 07-21-2006, 03:01 PM
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Hamdan's education

I have read somewhere that many Gulf royalties attend (prestigeous)universities in a form of privat lessons taking place in their own homecountries...
I don't know, this might not be true, but frankly, it is hard to imagine that Hamdan does not have a university degree.
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Old 07-21-2006, 03:32 PM
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hamdan went to Saint Herst Royal Military College.
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Old 07-21-2006, 08:49 PM
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Hamdan has only been to Sandhurst. He does not have a university degree. Maktoum is, indeed, the only one currently with a degree. Hopefully, the younger boys will follow in his footsteps. My understanding that is that Mo did not want Hamdan nor Rashid to get a higher education (however, this statement is only rumor and nothing more). I do know, though, that Hamdan has no University degree. It doesn't make him less of a person. He has many advantages in life and insha allah, he can and will be just as successful as anyone with a higher education...
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Old 07-22-2006, 04:25 AM
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One fact that everyone seems to have forgotten, if Hamdan was in any University in 2000, he would have been a gifted student given he was only 16/17.

And yes, there are many Hamdan Al Maktoum's who would have been of Uni age in 2000. Guess you folks don't realize how large and extended this family really is.........
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Old 08-14-2006, 05:50 PM
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Thomas , I think you care too much !

let me give you an important information , 12 children not too much it is also normal to have many children from one wife and this not just in ME but also in so many parts of the world so no thing odd about it , and it is known also that Sheikh Mohammed have other children from a Morocon or lebanese lady , I think his son Majed is not from Sheikh Hind ( I hope the members who knows better will tell if it is true ) .
any way I am not fan of Sheikh Mohammed but I can tell that he seems a good father and for sure he is very rich and smart so he could have many children as he wish and take care of them very good .
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Old 08-14-2006, 06:29 PM
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Thomas , I think you care too much !

let me give you an important information , 12 children not too much it is also normal to have many children from one wife and this not just in ME but also in so many parts of the world so no thing odd about it , and it is known also that Sheikh Mohammed have other children from a Morocon or lebanese lady , I think his son Majed is not from Sheikh Hind ( I hope the members who knows better will tell if it is true ) .
any way I am not fan of Sheikh Mohammed but I can tell that he seems a good father and for sure he is very rich and smart so he could have many children as he wish and take care of them very good .

Sheikh Majed is from the Moroccon lady. And I dont agree when you say "very rich ....he could have many children" because money wont buy time with their father and having chhildren you have to spend time with them, if your not spending time with them why have them in the first place. Im not reffering to Mohammed bin rashed but talking in general
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Old 08-14-2006, 06:58 PM
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Sheikh Majed is from the Moroccon lady. And I dont agree when you say "very rich ....he could have many children" because money wont buy time with their father and having chhildren you have to spend time with them, if your not spending time with them why have them in the first place. Im not reffering to Mohammed bin rashed but talking in general
well this your opinion , but we see a lot of pictures of Shiakh Mohammed with his children and he seems share with them a lot of his activity espcially his sons , and he not from those kind of father who don't like to show their affection for their children in public , he loves children and he have children and he can tack care of them in the best way he knows , any way no one is perfect

but as you say you talking general , I will say in general if you rich or poor if you want to have time with your children you will have time with them so it is not related to rich or poor , I think rich people can take care of more than one chiled they can give thim better life style more than a poor family with 12 children ( any way it is just my opinion )
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well this your opinion , but we see a lot of pictures of Shiakh Mohammed with his children and he seems share with them a lot of his activity espcially his sons , and he not from those kind of father who don't like to show their affection for their children in public , he loves children and he have children and he can tack care of them in the best way he knows , any way no one is perfect

but as you say you talking general , I will say in general if you rich or poor if you want to have time with your children you will have time with them so it is not related to rich or poor , I think rich people can take care of more than one chiled they can give thim better life style more than a poor family with 12 children ( any way it is just my opinion )
I get your point, but what im trying to say, why have lots of children if you wont spend time with them. thats it..
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:45 PM
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I get your point, but what im trying to say, why have lots of children if you wont spend time with them. thats it..
and I get your point or at least that what I think

and I will say with you to every mother and father , if you don't have time or you don't want to have time with your children why you wnat to have them in the first place !
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Old 08-16-2006, 07:49 AM
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i found some pics sheikha salama and shama i hope you like
http://static.flickr.com/12/17658973_c8861c796e.jpg?v=0
http://www.flickr.com/photos/emarati...ikha/74980291/
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Thanks Azrayy! This is a really good web site too - full of pics of our favourite royalties .
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:24 AM
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sheikha salama

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http://www.sandhurst.mod.uk/img/oseasaug06.jpg

the oversas sword aworded the overseas cadet considers by the Commandant to be the best of the intake, was presented to sheikh majid bin mohammed al maktoum.
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Please keep in mind that gossip or heresay are not credible sources of information and are not permitted under TRF's Rules and Guidlines.
Unless there is official and credible confirmation of Sheikh Rashid's marriage, please refrain from speculating on the subject.

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Old 08-20-2006, 03:12 PM
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i'm back

hello everybody I'm back still remember me i hope u still do, i was in bangkok for a month i have nooo idea what's happening to sheikh mohammed's sons well first of all i want to show u all this pics

















pics from www.gulf-roses.com

hope u all enjoy it and there's more to come
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Old 08-20-2006, 03:28 PM
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Good Luck

hey guys i wish all of your countries good luck in the



i wish my country UAE a good good good luck tomorrow 22 of August 2006, 7 am UAE TIME
especially to:
SHEIKH RASHID BIN MOHAMMED AL MAKTOUM

SHEIKH HAMDAN BIN MOHAMMED AL MAKTOUM

SHEIKH AHMAD BIN MOHAMMED AL MAKTOUM

SHEIKH MAJID BIN MOHAMMED AL MAKTOUM

and there's one more i forgot the name

now at Dubai sports they're airing the video of the UAE team with the highnesses


GOOD LUCK UAE god hamdan is sooooooooo cute
pics from yahoo search
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