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Old 01-30-2011, 05:21 AM
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I seem to have missunderstood Physiology in my translation. Physiology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-30-2011, 06:59 AM
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Dear Non-Royal when has Daniel proven to be intelligent? I have always got the impression that he is the opposite and has no intellectual interests at all. People describe him as extremely nice and interested in sports, but never as intelligent.
I'm a bit confused with this. I think so far he has proved that he is intelligent as Non-Royal wrote.

Intelligence is an umbrella term describing a property of the mind including related abilities, such as the capacities for abstract thought, understanding, communication, reasoning, learning, learning from past experiences, planning, and problem solving.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence

I do agree that he does not have intellectual interests that are widely known, but that's again a choice of each single person what interests he or she will pursue.
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Old 01-30-2011, 12:56 PM
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Dear Non-Royal when has Daniel proven to be intelligent?
Well, unlike the rest of the royal family, he uses full and correct sentences when he speaks .... (but on the other hand, even my 6-year-old son is doing that...)
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Old 01-30-2011, 07:27 PM
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I haven't seen that Prince Daniel is neither intelligient or non-intelligient. He has proven to stand by Victoria's side and speak in a logical, down to earth manner. As long as he is being himself, supporting Victoria and learning as he goes along, they I would say he's doing a fine job.
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I haven't seen that Prince Daniel is neither intelligient or non-intelligient. He has proven to stand by Victoria's side and speak in a logical, down to earth manner. As long as he is being himself, supporting Victoria and learning as he goes along, they I would say he's doing a fine job.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:46 AM
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Well, firstly Daniel's secondary education wasn't one that gives him the right to apply too that type of university program. Secondly his grads were terrible even though he didn't take advanced courses in secondary school, and not to forget his bad result at "Högskoleprovet" which doesn't test your knowledge in subjects but your ability to solve logical problems and understand and gather information from texts. If Daniel miraculously would have got new grads and result at hp that were so good that he would get in to this course the papers would have written about it.

Dear Non-Royal when has Daniel proven to be intelligent? I have always got the impression that he is the opposite and has no intellectual interests at all. People describe him as extremely nice and interested in sports, but never as intelligent.
It is now accepted that intelligence can be measured in several ways. I used to shop only intelligence on what skills the student could benefit from the school books (or equivalent). Nowadays one speaks of "social intelligence", "emotional intelligence", "empativ intelligence" and many more. As current president of the various major school offices in Sweden, I also know that now is a lot about how to seek knowledge!

In order to even have a true and fair view of the matter need forum members know what type of training Ingrid Cecilia completed to assess intelligence.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:16 AM
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Just because he became a Prince of Sweden doesn't mean that he must drop any interest in furthering his knowledge of the functions of humans and their organs and systems. In his case, it may be vitally important to his future health and well being. Instead of begrudging him this chance to further educate himself, let us encourage him and admire this effort to better understand his chosen field of study and his own personal condition.
Well said!

I'm quite angry and rather unimpressed with the comments in this thread. There seems to be a lot of jealous posters regarding Prince Daniel's willingness for further education. For those who are stating he is not intelligent, do you have any qualification in making such a remark? I hold a Ph.D. in engineering, which received the highest grade, but I don't believe I have the right to pass judgement on the intelligence of a human. Intelligence is subjective and cannot be measured. For all of you about to quote IQ testing, you're wasting your time.

Instead of criticising, you should be complementing and praising someone who wishes to further educate themselves. And for those who quote his apparent grades whilst at secondary school, you are clutching at straws. He completed his secondary education 20 years ago. That is a very long time ago.
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:09 AM
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I am also a bit surprised at the amount of negative reactions, considering how much flack Daniel took in the past (on this board and elsewhere) for his lack of formal education.

I don't know how it works in Sweden, of course, but here in the US the criteria for admitting adult students to college are often quite different from those for students entering straight from secondary school. My mother began applying to colleges for the first time at age 50, at the same time I was applying as a teenager, so I had a unique opportunity to observe the different procedures.
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:27 AM
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I have first hand experience of how wrong it is to judge someone by how they do in secondary school. My nephew barely made it through high school here in the US, but he found a career in aviation - he graduated from a very well thought of school with two associates degrees and a B+ average! For a young man we thought would be flipping burgers all his life he now works for a very well respected aviation firm making, after only 3 months, almost $18 an hour!

It could be that Daniel is "auditing" these classes, that is, attending and taking part in all aspects but not receiving credit as if he were an enrolled student. That is quite common here in the states.
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Could it be that he was admitted because he has worked for several years in a job related to his field of study and then completed some Preparatory courses?
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Yes that is well possible Sternchen. Some people who lacked the relevant qualifications for my university course, got accepted because they had life experience related to the degree course and got accepted that way. That may have been how Daniel got accepted.

It seems to be that by some Daniel can do no right. First he gets criticised for his lack of educational level and now he is trying to improve his educational level he still cannot do right by them.
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I don't see the criticism over his furthering his education, but rather getting special treatment to do so. The qualifications to get into most university is based on grades as well as his test scores, which were published prior to the engagement. It's known that both his test score, as well as his grades were poor, leading people to wonder how/why was he accepted. Now of course low grades doesn't equal a lack of intelligence, but that doesn't change the fact that he didn't meat the requirements to be accepted into the school.
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None of us knows the full details; we only know bits and pieces.
True, his high school and test grades were poor ~20 years ago = 20 years ago he did'nt meet the requirements.
Since then he attended the army where they say he did well and then he attended Phys Ed school where evidently he did very well- he also started and ran a business. Some credit has to be given for these.
I agree with the posters above who remind us that the admissions process for adult students (we call them "mature" students here) is totally different than the process for "fresh out of high school".
I know at my university mature students must submit a detailed résumé of their non-academic experience and attend several interviews.

Besides we don't know which program he is attending, for all we know he may be auditing only. May be he is taking only one physiology course, not a whole degree program.

Simply put I don't think any one of us konws enough to make the statement "he didn't meet the requirements to be accepted into the school"
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I don't see the criticism over his furthering his education, but rather getting special treatment to do so.
Here we go again. There is no prove that he got special treatment at all.
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Old 02-02-2011, 11:03 AM
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Royals only have one purpose: serving. While I have no problem with Daniel doing further education, I have a problem with the fact that he is doing little else and nothing substantial. Its ok to go to university if he still has the time to do so ON TOP of his regular agenda, pity that he hasnt any, and not INSTEAD.

And in order to broaden his knowledge he doesnt have to enroll anywhere, let alone via special treatment in case there was any, he can buy a private tutor to teach him.
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ON TOP of his regular agenda, pity that he hasnt any, and not INSTEAD.
Perhaps you should have a look at his agenda, which has been added on the page of the Swedish RF
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I don't have a problem with this as long as I ask one thing does this mean Daniel will still show up for official engagements just not as regularly as he would normally be expected to? The only time it would bother me is if he attended no official engagements with Victoria. I love Daniel and Victoria so if I didn't see them together the whole year I'd find it way too weird. Even Victoria's solo engagements this year while few so far still made me question where Daniel was. It felt so weird without him
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You can check Daniels calendar here Seems like the engagements in London are solo

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Excuse me? The eveningpapers Aftonbladet and Expressen that are the focus in this story havent written anything on their own about her beeing pregnant since December 11. Aftonbladets story while she was in Brunei was report on a radioshow.

If they had said speculations on the net i would understand.
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