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Old 02-13-2007, 07:47 PM
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I actually went to the website online and saw a short clip of the interviews and Madeleine speaking for a little bit.
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:38 PM
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I actually went to the website online and saw a short clip of the interviews and Madeleine speaking for a little bit.
Can someone give me a link cause I cant find what you guys are talking about.
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Old 02-15-2007, 01:33 AM
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I just searched online swedish tv4 and on the website there is a link called Prinsar och Prinsessor and several video clips come up but they are short.
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Old 02-15-2007, 06:01 AM
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Trailer about the episode of "Prinsar and Prinsessor" on the Swedish Royal Family (with Madeleine speaking a little bit English)
http://tv4.se/klipp/100366.html

The one on the Norwegian Royal family
http://tv4.se/klipp/97182.html

And the one on the British:
http://tv4.se/klipp/98869.html
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:12 AM
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Thank you Lena for posting the link about the episode of "Prinsar and Prinsessor" on the Swedish Royal Family
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Hey thatīs really cool but i think she should make a interview in german because thatīs here second language
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:51 AM
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Hey thatīs really cool but i think she should make a interview in german because thatīs here second language
Firstly, why should she speak German to a crowd of ppl with not everyone understanding Swedish, but with probably all having had English in school (?)

And secondly it is nearly safe to say, that Madeleineīs English is much better than her German. She has lived in Great Britain and New York...her schools set the focus on English. Of course she surely has some knowledge of german...but probably it isnīt much better than Carl Philipīs (and hisīGerman is IMO really bad) Silvia said, that a psychologist told her, that itīs not healthy for children to grow up with parents speaking several languages...and in the light of the childrenīs dyslexia, the parents probably wanted to concentrate even more on only Swedish. Besides Silvia had to learn Swedish as well and then it doesnīt really help to speak all the time German to the persons, you are most with.
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Old 02-15-2007, 12:19 PM
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wow, I love hearing Madeleine talk in English. She has a beautiful voice.
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:47 PM
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wow, I love hearing Madeleine talk in English. She has a beautiful voice.
Yes indeed!!

and Lena thank you for posting the links!
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Old 02-15-2007, 06:43 PM
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Besides Silvia had to learn Swedish as well and then it doesnīt really help to speak all the time German to the persons, you are most with.
Well that didnīt go to well did it I think that the Queens swedish gets worse and worse, it seems she will never be speaking a good swedish, rather sad i think esp if you compare it with the other imigrants that hasnīt been in sweden for such a long time as Silvia has but speaks fluent or atleast much better then she is. Did anyone see the interview in "prinsar & prinsessor"? not many words spoken with correct grammar there was it...?
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:11 PM
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Thanks for posting the links Lena

And also rop81 stated that the queen's swedish isn't so good. I have a little theory on that. People that have immigrated to Sweden have to probably speak swedish in everyday life they might not have a choice. Whereas the queen maybe hasn't perfected her swedish b/c so many people that she comes in contact with probably prefer speaking to her in her language of choice. She's the queen and they are probably very accomodating to her language preference. Just a theory, I could be way off.
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Old 02-16-2007, 03:04 PM
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Is Swedish an easy language to learn for foreign speakers? I have had a look at it and it seems very hard. Could that possibly be the reason Queen Silvia have not "perfected" the Swedish language?
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Is Swedish an easy language to learn for foreign speakers? I have had a look at it and it seems very hard. Could that possibly be the reason Queen Silvia have not "perfected" the Swedish language?
Well, one maybe has to distinguish between two things: Grammar and pronunciation. Grammar and words in general are very close to German. So if you speak German, you shouldnīt have a too hard time to learn writing in Swedish...and also to speak it. But I though guess it is very difficult to speak it without an accent, if you learn it after your childhood years. The thing is, that Silvia has problems with the grammar as well...and Iīd say, thatīs it, what the Swedes blame her for...since itīs a matter of studying.
Iīve my very own theory for Silvia and Mary (two obviously smart women...the one even very experienced in languages) having problems with their new Scandinavian languages. Iīm agreeing with Aurora810...but I think, itīs even a little more. Iīve never seen ppl faster learning a language, than when it has been on their free will. So when they have been interested in an other country and culture. Even though Silvia had a little connection to Sweden (her father worked for a Swedish steel company and they have visited Sweden at least once) itīs clear to me, that she wouldnīt have chosen to live there, if she wouldnīt have met the king...and in her position, it was somehow also hard to get into "normal" situations...everyday Swedish life. Apart from some chitchat at duties her circles seem pretty small and the language ppl talk to her very limited. If you are an "average" immigrant and if you go outside, you have to face so many different situations and you are pretty much left alone...so you have to fight yourself through all kind of situations and you are meeting all kind of social classes with different styles of language...and in the light of this stress the brain is much more stimulated. Silvia has many helpers...is limited to polite little conversations. Of course later she got her own family...but usually the very first months or years are important for learning a language. All here, who have (like me) English as second language surely know, what Iīm talking about The mistakes, you have made in the beginning are so hard to iron out.
So maybe the teaching method wasnīt the right one, maybe she was lacking a bit of passion for learning this new language, maybe she couldnīt experience Swedish in all its liveliness and maybe ppl still spoke way too much English to her (so that she never got into this "Iīm lost" survival mode, that would have helped her to try harder)

And as rop is saying "worse and worse"...she doesnīt get any younger. If she isnīt really "at home" in Swedish, it wonīt get better with age.
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:06 PM
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English is my second language too! I think I understand what you are saying about Queen Silvia.
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Old 02-17-2007, 01:57 PM
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Swedish is very difficult, I mean for speakers :)

But i'm curious about the dress of Princess Madeleine next saturday
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Where will Princess Madeleine be appearing next Saturday? I have heard nothing about an appearance.

Thanks in advance.
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Where will Princess Madeleine be appearing next Saturday? I have heard nothing about an appearance.

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70th birtday of King Harald V of Norway. There is a gala
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Old 02-18-2007, 04:05 AM
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According to www.royalcourt.se Princess Madeleine has two engagements next week:

> Wednesday, 21 February
She will visit The Queen Silvia Children’s Hospital on behalf of My Big Day.

and

> Friday-Sunday, 23-25 February
Attendance at the celebrations of King Harald V’s 70th birthday in Oslo. And like Princess Robijn posted there is a gala on Saturday.
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Old 02-18-2007, 04:34 AM
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I'm really looking forward, too. Here are some events related to the celebrations of King Harald V’s 70th birthday in Oslo.

23 Febuary
Arrival of most royal guests at Gardermoen during the day

18.30 Event in Rådhuset, attended by most royal guests (Broadcast on TV2)

The Crown Prince Couple will host a dinner for the royal guests and Presidents at Skaugum after the show is finished

24 Febuary
The first part of the day is spent at the Norwegian Museum for Cultural History, some sort of cultural walk.

Gala Dinner and ball

22.45 A surprise event outside the palace, gift from the military, the people are invited to come see it, guess the royal will watch from the balcony then like during the Crown Prince wedding

25 Febuary
For those guests still in town there will be a lunch and a ride in horse drawn carriages in the Norwegian Winter Wonderland
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Old 02-18-2007, 05:52 AM
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Expressen has today as big header a story about Madeleineīs dog, its nursery and a woman, who worked there illegally.
Madeleine left there always her dog during the day. In the evening, her, Jonas or one of tree friends picked Zorro up. The woman, who is called Maria in the article, said, that she had to work many more hours than it was said in the beginning. She had to work up to 11 hours and just got 15700 SEK (1700 EUR) from the middle of October until February. Well, I think this is actually not so much a story about Madeleine...everyone has gotten somehow in contact with illegally employeed ppl in the world of services. The court also said, she didnīt know about it.
As it seems the woman stopped to work there and Madeleine changed the nursery for Zorro (not sure, if "nursery" is the right word...apart from "dogsitter" Holly in "King of Queens" and some stories on hotels for dogs, Iīve never ever heard of daycare for dogs )
Another article is maybe a little bit more about Madeleine. One day she "forgot" to pick up Zorro. "Maria" waited 2 hours longer, but still no one showed up...so she took Zorro and went with it to her little home in a suburb of Stockholm. Zorro, which isnīt used to going by subway trembeld the whole way. The dog played with Mariaīs children and she got a picture of Zorro together with herself and her mother taken.

In the morning she took Zorro again to work and in the evening Madeleine picked the dog up and Maria got 100 Sek (about 10 Euro) for her extra work.
I will refrain to give a comment about this story. It would be to much about cliches on Östermalm-gals, too much on the silly press world and too much about the court commenting everything
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