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Old 12-21-2003, 05:55 PM
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Sorry, Dennism, I know it´s a bit ( understatement ) mean of me, but you gave me some good laughs when I read your translation. It´s easy for me, beeing swedish, so now you have the right to laugh at my english if you want to!

"Threw themselves into the wall", yepp, that what it says, and how do I translate that...? it´s like they have no chance to compete so they might as well threw themselves... I can´t think of a similar phrase in english.

"Lillsessan..." Lill=lilla= small, tiny Sessa=short for prinsessa=princess So " Baby-princess IS the most sparkling diamond, both her sister Victoria and mother Silvia have to appologize" ( us for saying this).

"Det är i och för sig ingen hemlighet.." "There is no secret about the fact that our youngest princess has an apperance that attracts."

"Ett killmagasin...." A mens magazine reasently made a wall chart, a gatefold pinup (my dictionary´s word), with a bikiniclad Madeleine, and according to sources the tabloid hit the stands" ( or something like that -and know YOU may laugh Dennism&#33

"Runt om i Europa" = throughout Europe

Then the photographers and the journalist who wrote this go wild, even I don´t get the meaning about the toplids that fly... but anyway, it happens any time she makes an entrance at the red carpet.

About the men and there gloves... another swedish expression hard to translate. "Put your gloves on something" is like...grabbing, taking, trying to take something you really want.

During the time I needed for this translation Dennism has written me a private message, begging my to have mercy on his swedish. I´m just trying to help you, laughing WITH you, not in a mean way in your face, it´s hard to sound nice and sweet with no voice .
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Old 12-21-2003, 06:24 PM
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"During the time I needed for this translation Dennism has written me a private message, begging my to have mercy on his swedish. I´m just trying to help you, laughing WITH you, not in a mean way in your face, it´s hard to sound nice and sweet with no voice"

And I explained to Alva that I didn't mean it in a bad way. I was just imagining the laughter. The medium doesn't do half-joking or sarcasm very well.

As for the phrases, I tried. They were tough. I was surprised about the wall chart. I was thinking of something in business so it didn't occur to me that it referred to a pinup.

"killmagasin"

Kill= guy or lad. Of course, I can't believe I didn't think of that.

""Threw themselves into the wall", yepp, that what it says, and how do I translate that...? it´s like they have no chance to compete so they might as well threw themselves."

I have to say I'm rather proud of myself on that one.

""There is no secret about the fact"

A lot of extra words there in the Swedish. That's why it confused me.
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Old 12-29-2003, 06:04 AM
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Madeleine course will finish in mid January wonder what she will do next
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Old 12-29-2003, 12:27 PM
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Is it always warm enough to tan in the sun in Sweden, or does Madeleine use a tanning bed year-round?! Just curious, because she always has that BEAUTIFUL tan!

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Old 12-29-2003, 12:31 PM
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she´s definately using a tanning bed... and goes on regular holidays to the sun.
Because Sweden is not the right country to live in if you want an "all-year-around" tan :P
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Old 12-29-2003, 01:43 PM
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Nothing like a tan bed to ruin your skin!
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Old 12-29-2003, 01:53 PM
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True, Bubbette. True.
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Old 12-30-2003, 04:46 PM
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The results are in and the people at Aftonbladet have finished counting the votes and Princesse Madeleine or Len has finished in 3rd place behind behind Athletics dynamo Carolina Kluft and Golfing Genius Annika Sorenstam. Here is the article:

Brava to Len.


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Old 12-30-2003, 07:02 PM
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well, I´m not a fan of tanning. Atleast not in tanning beds =) I think Madeleine looks bad when she´s too tanned (other than in the summers ofcourse) But in the winter it looks so...fake.

Thanks Blueice, I like the avatar very much to... :P
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Old 01-20-2004, 05:36 PM
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I read somewhere that she will start her third term studying History of Art.
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Old 02-02-2004, 04:31 AM
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From expressen:

Apparantly Jonas and Erik (the ex-boyfriend) have been fighting over Madeleine at a bar in Stockholm. Her life guards had to kick Erik out... :P
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Old 02-02-2004, 04:33 AM
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No class, that Erik. He was trouble from the beginning.
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Old 02-02-2004, 06:35 AM
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Sigh...this stupid Eric....if he wouldn´t be so stupid and violent it already would be funny...so he provokes a fight with his rival...even though he and Madeleine are separated for more than 15 months now...but I wonder, how easy Jonas was to provoke...and I wonder if Madeleine enjoyed this situation a little bit too...2 guys, who fight FOR her...
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Old 02-02-2004, 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by Lena@Feb 2nd, 2004 - 5:35 am
Sigh...this stupid Eric....if he wouldn´t be so stupid and violent it already would be funny...so he provokes a fight with his rival...even though he and Madeleine are separated for more than 15 months now...but I wonder, how easy Jonas was to provoke...and I wonder if Madeleine enjoyed this situation a little bit too...2 guys, who fight FOR her...
Jonas, Jonas. Should have walked away. No fighting, boys.
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Old 02-02-2004, 01:38 PM
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Could you please give a "bigger" summary of that article, i'd like to know wath happened overal . please?? :flower:
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Old 02-02-2004, 03:45 PM
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Who started the fight and why?
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Old 02-03-2004, 06:33 AM
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It's time for a little Dennisficating...

I'll start out with what Yennie put down:

In an unassuming and sneaky (confused by that one. I thought it was going to be a "place to eat outside) and in a great hurry there was a place named Café Opera which was the probable choice when Princess Madeleine went out but the place was too dangerous?

Quite rightly she went to the Café together with boyfriend(and good football player&#33 Jonas Bergström and also with pals Natalie Rosta and her boyfriend Dag Werner. The party(group of people) saw a sea of people.(lojt? listless and world something. 40 compounds for world in my dictionary but not that one. Bu&#33 So they didn't go in as we find out later.


Aftonbladet article:

Madde's boyfriend in row, with ex-boyfriend.

Erik Granath, the princess' former boyfriend, caption to photo.

Could do nothing

Princess Madeleine was in a tavern with her mates, entertaining themselves when a fight broke out between her former boy friend Erik Granada and her present boyfriend, Jonas Bergström.

Princess Madeleine couldn't do anything.

They were on the dance floor when suddenly a fight broke out(utbröt. Shakes head) between Jonas Bergström and her ex, Erik Granath.

-It is no secret that they hate each other, said a friend of the princess.

The restaurant-fight occurred at the nightclub Kharma in central Stockholm on Saturday night.(I'm confused. I thought it was at Cafe Opera) Princess Madeleine arranged to invite to the restaurant(or for organized drinking?) her friends Veronica Arph, Sofie Stenbeck and Charlotte Köning.

At this place already, was Madeleine's ex boyfriend, Erik Granath.

He walked up to her, annoy her and then embraced her with Jonas next to her, according to a statement to the Aftonbladet.(I think)

Picked a fight

-That started the brawl with each other. It was not a nice mood then if I may say so, says a source(Brilliant).

According to eyewitnesses, Erik cursed at Jonas for his behavior? and this led to the start of the fight with the princess' current boyfriend.

-It is no secret that Jonas and Erik hate each other. They can't stand each other on the whole, says a friend of the princess.

After a moment, attentive bouncers broke up the fight. They escorted Erik out of the tavern.

On Friday night Madeleine was supposed to celebrate at Cafe Opera. But since that place was so crowded, she was dissuaded to go there by her security detail. The princess instead choose to go out the next night with her friends.

But this ceased to be as it intended.(Night didn't turn out the way they wanted). The Aftonbladet has learned that Erik Granada is not completely over the idea that his relationship with the princess is over.

-I feel that we are dealing with, on the whole, a matter of jealousy. Madeleined feels that such situations are most embarassing, said a friend of the princess.

Aftonbladet searched for Erik but couldn't find him or couldn't get a response from him.



Expressen:

Madeleine's boyfriend and ex in a bar fight.


The Swedish security police were compelled to intervene in the well-known club Kharma

Madeleine ended up in the middle of the bar fight.


Pandemonium started with a violent word-battle(Word-rotation, literally) between current boyfriend Jonas and ex-boyfriend Erik.

The Princess' bodyguards were compelled to stop the fight and Erik directly left the trendy nightclub in Stureplan in central Stockholm.


Pandemonium played out in Kharma until Sunday.

Several hundred people saw this.

Princess Madeleine went out with her boyfriend. The pair and their friends frequent a bar or tavern every weekend and found themselves in a section of Kharma that night.

The Princess and Jonas arrived at the scene a little after midnight. Each gender were there and they were on holiday.(Not getting the second part. Something about the party being waved at or coming over.)

Madeleine had her own civilain-clothed bodyguards there and they went straight to the locked vip sections of Kharma.

-They were ordinarily large and nice and were rather well-behaved. said another guest.

But when Madeleine's ex-boyfriend Erik arrived, a big commotion soon arose.
They used to be together and Erik visited the Princess when she was in London. But last year she and he broke up and shortly thereafter, she started to date Jonas. It was an irritating or heated mood.

-Madeleine and Erik openly fought with each other. There was smoke(fire) when Erik and Jonas are together and it let to a fight says, an eyewitness.

Another eyewitness said it started when Erik nudged Jonas.

A bitter verbal fight soon arose.

-It was all so embarassing and it looked like the Princess wanted to sink into the earth.(Disappear, I suppose) said an eyewitness.
The guards in Madeleine's party broke it up and Erik was escorted from Kharma.
-He was becoming what plainly was a problem, said one witness.
Jan Jonsson of the security police said yesterday evening:

-The matter was handled before it became messy. But as a matter of principle we never safely protect the royal children.(that can't be right. Strange sentence. I must have misread it. It could be that they never blame the royal children)

Expressen contacted the owner of Kharma, Robert Hållstrand who was in the restaurant last night:

-I never talked about the guests that we have.
Did you see the fight?
-I will not comment on the Princess or her guests who were here last night.(something like that)


Erik Granath, denied that he was drunk at Kharma:
-There was no fight in Kharma. Me and my mates were standing in the bar when we saw Madeleine come in. That's when I walked over to greet her. I had not seen her for a year. I barely saw Jonas, continued Granath.

You were becoming an issue?

-Honestly, I don't remember how I came over there or from there?

Spokewoman Elisabeth Tarras-Wahlberg said this when we tried to contact the princess:

- I have nothing to illuminate further on what happened.
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Old 02-03-2004, 06:37 AM
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News: Now Expressen has asked Madeleine and she said, that there wasn´t a fight...and a friend of Madeleine says, that she wouldn´t admit that, because otherwise she would be forced of her parents to stay at home...the royal couple should be really angry about the whole affair...
I´m about a half year older than Madeleine...and if my parents would try to force me to stay at home I would laugh at them, even when they would threat me to stop the money transfer...Actually they couldn´t do this, because I don´t live at home anymore, and it´s the same with Madeleine...so I guess this is again a made-up story of EXPRESSEN.
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Old 02-03-2004, 10:26 AM
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Thanks for the 'Dennisfication' of the Madeline and her boyfriends story.

One question: None of the stories explained why Erik and Jonas hate each other? Is it because Erik is just jealous or doesn't want Madeline to be dating Jonas? Or do these two have a deeper history with one another aside from the Madeline thing?
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Old 02-03-2004, 10:51 AM
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I think it's just because of Madeleine. They both want her. Besides, I'm pretty sure we would all hate Erik if we knew him. He doesn't strike me as the nicest person...
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