Princess Madeleine, Current Events Part 2: October 2003 - August 2004


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Sorry, Dennism, I know it´s a bit ( understatement ) mean of me, but you gave me some good laughs when I read your translation. It´s easy for me, beeing swedish, so now you have the right to laugh at my english if you want to!

"Threw themselves into the wall", yepp, that what it says, and how do I translate that...? it´s like they have no chance to compete so they might as well threw themselves... I can´t think of a similar phrase in english.

"Lillsessan..." Lill=lilla= small, tiny Sessa=short for prinsessa=princess So " Baby-princess IS the most sparkling diamond, both her sister Victoria and mother Silvia have to appologize" ( us for saying this).

"Det är i och för sig ingen hemlighet.." "There is no secret about the fact that our youngest princess has an apperance that attracts."

"Ett killmagasin...." A mens magazine reasently made a wall chart, a gatefold pinup (my dictionary´s word), with a bikiniclad Madeleine, and according to sources the tabloid hit the stands" ( or something like that -and know YOU may laugh Dennism!)

"Runt om i Europa" = throughout Europe

Then the photographers and the journalist who wrote this go wild, even I don´t get the meaning about the toplids that fly... but anyway, it happens any time she makes an entrance at the red carpet.

About the men and there gloves... another swedish expression hard to translate. "Put your gloves on something" is like...grabbing, taking, trying to take something you really want.

During the time I needed for this translation Dennism has written me a private message, begging my to have mercy on his swedish. I´m just trying to help you, laughing WITH you, not in a mean way in your face, it´s hard to sound nice and sweet with no voice :heart: .
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"During the time I needed for this translation Dennism has written me a private message, begging my to have mercy on his swedish. I´m just trying to help you, laughing WITH you, not in a mean way in your face, it´s hard to sound nice and sweet with no voice"

And I explained to Alva that I didn't mean it in a bad way. I was just imagining the laughter. The medium doesn't do half-joking or sarcasm very well.

As for the phrases, I tried. They were tough. I was surprised about the wall chart. I was thinking of something in business so it didn't occur to me that it referred to a pinup.

"killmagasin"

Kill= guy or lad. Of course, I can't believe I didn't think of that.

""Threw themselves into the wall", yepp, that what it says, and how do I translate that...? it´s like they have no chance to compete so they might as well threw themselves."

I have to say I'm rather proud of myself on that one.

""There is no secret about the fact"

A lot of extra words there in the Swedish. That's why it confused me.
 
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Madeleine course will finish in mid January wonder what she will do next
 
Is it always warm enough to tan in the sun in Sweden, or does Madeleine use a tanning bed year-round?! Just curious, because she always has that BEAUTIFUL tan!

*Ashley*
 
she´s definately using a tanning bed... and goes on regular holidays to the sun.
Because Sweden is not the right country to live in if you want an "all-year-around" tan :p
 
True, Bubbette. True.
 
The results are in and the people at Aftonbladet have finished counting the votes and Princesse Madeleine or Len has finished in 3rd place behind behind Athletics dynamo Carolina Kluft and Golfing Genius Annika Sorenstam. Here is the article:

Brava to Len.


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well, I´m not a fan of tanning. Atleast not in tanning beds =) I think Madeleine looks bad when she´s too tanned (other than in the summers ofcourse) But in the winter it looks so...fake.

Thanks Blueice, I like the avatar very much to... :p
 
I read somewhere that she will start her third term studying History of Art.
 
From expressen:

Apparantly Jonas and Erik (the ex-boyfriend) have been fighting over Madeleine at a bar in Stockholm. Her life guards had to kick Erik out... :p
 
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No class, that Erik. He was trouble from the beginning.
 
Sigh...this stupid Eric....if he wouldn´t be so stupid and violent it already would be funny...so he provokes a fight with his rival...even though he and Madeleine are separated for more than 15 months now...but I wonder, how easy Jonas was to provoke...and I wonder if Madeleine enjoyed this situation a little bit too...2 guys, who fight FOR her...
 
Originally posted by Lena@Feb 2nd, 2004 - 5:35 am
Sigh...this stupid Eric....if he wouldn´t be so stupid and violent it already would be funny...so he provokes a fight with his rival...even though he and Madeleine are separated for more than 15 months now...but I wonder, how easy Jonas was to provoke...and I wonder if Madeleine enjoyed this situation a little bit too...2 guys, who fight FOR her...
Jonas, Jonas. Should have walked away. No fighting, boys.
 
Could you please give a "bigger" summary of that article, i'd like to know wath happened overal :rolleyes: . please?? :flower:
 
Who started the fight and why?
 
It's time for a little Dennisficating...

I'll start out with what Yennie put down:

In an unassuming and sneaky (confused by that one. I thought it was going to be a "place to eat outside) and in a great hurry there was a place named Café Opera which was the probable choice when Princess Madeleine went out but the place was too dangerous?

Quite rightly she went to the Café together with boyfriend(and good football player!) Jonas Bergström and also with pals Natalie Rosta and her boyfriend Dag Werner. The party(group of people) saw a sea of people.(lojt? listless and world something. 40 compounds for world in my dictionary but not that one. Bu!) So they didn't go in as we find out later.


Aftonbladet article:

Madde's boyfriend in row, with ex-boyfriend.

Erik Granath, the princess' former boyfriend, caption to photo.

Could do nothing

Princess Madeleine was in a tavern with her mates, entertaining themselves when a fight broke out between her former boy friend Erik Granada and her present boyfriend, Jonas Bergström.

Princess Madeleine couldn't do anything.

They were on the dance floor when suddenly a fight broke out(utbröt. Shakes head) between Jonas Bergström and her ex, Erik Granath.

-It is no secret that they hate each other, said a friend of the princess.

The restaurant-fight occurred at the nightclub Kharma in central Stockholm on Saturday night.(I'm confused. I thought it was at Cafe Opera) Princess Madeleine arranged to invite to the restaurant(or for organized drinking?) her friends Veronica Arph, Sofie Stenbeck and Charlotte Köning.

At this place already, was Madeleine's ex boyfriend, Erik Granath.

He walked up to her, annoy her and then embraced her with Jonas next to her, according to a statement to the Aftonbladet.(I think)

Picked a fight

-That started the brawl with each other. It was not a nice mood then if I may say so, says a source(Brilliant).

According to eyewitnesses, Erik cursed at Jonas for his behavior? and this led to the start of the fight with the princess' current boyfriend.

-It is no secret that Jonas and Erik hate each other. They can't stand each other on the whole, says a friend of the princess.

After a moment, attentive bouncers broke up the fight. They escorted Erik out of the tavern.

On Friday night Madeleine was supposed to celebrate at Cafe Opera. But since that place was so crowded, she was dissuaded to go there by her security detail. The princess instead choose to go out the next night with her friends.

But this ceased to be as it intended.(Night didn't turn out the way they wanted). The Aftonbladet has learned that Erik Granada is not completely over the idea that his relationship with the princess is over.

-I feel that we are dealing with, on the whole, a matter of jealousy. Madeleined feels that such situations are most embarassing, said a friend of the princess.

Aftonbladet searched for Erik but couldn't find him or couldn't get a response from him.



Expressen:

Madeleine's boyfriend and ex in a bar fight.


The Swedish security police were compelled to intervene in the well-known club Kharma

Madeleine ended up in the middle of the bar fight.


Pandemonium started with a violent word-battle(Word-rotation, literally) between current boyfriend Jonas and ex-boyfriend Erik.

The Princess' bodyguards were compelled to stop the fight and Erik directly left the trendy nightclub in Stureplan in central Stockholm.


Pandemonium played out in Kharma until Sunday.

Several hundred people saw this.

Princess Madeleine went out with her boyfriend. The pair and their friends frequent a bar or tavern every weekend and found themselves in a section of Kharma that night.

The Princess and Jonas arrived at the scene a little after midnight. Each gender were there and they were on holiday.(Not getting the second part. Something about the party being waved at or coming over.)

Madeleine had her own civilain-clothed bodyguards there and they went straight to the locked vip sections of Kharma.

-They were ordinarily large and nice and were rather well-behaved. said another guest.

But when Madeleine's ex-boyfriend Erik arrived, a big commotion soon arose.
They used to be together and Erik visited the Princess when she was in London. But last year she and he broke up and shortly thereafter, she started to date Jonas. It was an irritating or heated mood.

-Madeleine and Erik openly fought with each other. There was smoke(fire) when Erik and Jonas are together and it let to a fight says, an eyewitness.

Another eyewitness said it started when Erik nudged Jonas.

A bitter verbal fight soon arose.

-It was all so embarassing and it looked like the Princess wanted to sink into the earth.(Disappear, I suppose) said an eyewitness.
The guards in Madeleine's party broke it up and Erik was escorted from Kharma.
-He was becoming what plainly was a problem, said one witness.
Jan Jonsson of the security police said yesterday evening:

-The matter was handled before it became messy. But as a matter of principle we never safely protect the royal children.(that can't be right. Strange sentence. I must have misread it. It could be that they never blame the royal children)

Expressen contacted the owner of Kharma, Robert Hållstrand who was in the restaurant last night:

-I never talked about the guests that we have.
Did you see the fight?
-I will not comment on the Princess or her guests who were here last night.(something like that)


Erik Granath, denied that he was drunk at Kharma:
-There was no fight in Kharma. Me and my mates were standing in the bar when we saw Madeleine come in. That's when I walked over to greet her. I had not seen her for a year. I barely saw Jonas, continued Granath.

You were becoming an issue?

-Honestly, I don't remember how I came over there or from there?

Spokewoman Elisabeth Tarras-Wahlberg said this when we tried to contact the princess:

- I have nothing to illuminate further on what happened.
 
News: Now Expressen has asked Madeleine and she said, that there wasn´t a fight...and a friend of Madeleine says, that she wouldn´t admit that, because otherwise she would be forced of her parents to stay at home...the royal couple should be really angry about the whole affair...
I´m about a half year older than Madeleine...and if my parents would try to force me to stay at home I would laugh at them, even when they would threat me to stop the money transfer...Actually they couldn´t do this, because I don´t live at home anymore, and it´s the same with Madeleine...so I guess this is again a made-up story of EXPRESSEN.
 
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Thanks for the 'Dennisfication' of the Madeline and her boyfriends story.

One question: None of the stories explained why Erik and Jonas hate each other? Is it because Erik is just jealous or doesn't want Madeline to be dating Jonas? Or do these two have a deeper history with one another aside from the Madeline thing?
 
Alexandria

I think it's just because of Madeleine. They both want her. Besides, I'm pretty sure we would all hate Erik if we knew him. He doesn't strike me as the nicest person...
 
Thank Cissan. I wasn't sure if there was some history I was missing about Erik and Jonas. And you're right, Erik doesn't seem like a very nice person if he is horning in on his ex-girlfriend's relationship and picking fights with her present boyfriend. I guess maybe he thought it would get Madeline back ...
 
According to reports in Swedish newspapers 04 February 2004, several "madmen" have lately shown abnormal interest in the princess by sending her letters and trying to contact her in different ways. The Swedish security police, SAPO, is now giving her armed escort when she is outdoors. Such security is normaly only given to the Prime Minister, the King and Crown Princess Victoria.


Aftonbladet:
Madeleine stalked by madmen


Madeleine is being followed and lives under a serious threat or they are following the threat seriously.

Presently, the SAPO guards are protecting Madeleine.

-Apparently, she needs protection(or shelter. Hmmm) says spokeswoman Elisabeth Tarras-Wahlberg.


Aftonbladet can reveal today that Princess Madeleine lives under a serious threat and needs the protection of Säpo.

One sources tells us that several men have had a rather large interest in the young princess.

They have sent letters and tried to contact Madeleine in several different ways.

-They are morbidly obsessed with her. I know that Madeleine thinks these situations are very unpleasant although she is attempting to not to contemplate about these madmen too much, says a source.

Therefore Madeleine will now have armed bodyguard from Säpo when she goes out into public.

On Friday, she and friends were going to visit the Café Opera in Stockholm where there is one large room but the Sapo dissuaded the princess for going there.

They evaluated that the situation(crowded place, one big room) was not safe so they persuaded her not to go in. There were completely too many people there, says a source.

Madeleine did not have a bodyguard from Säpo when she went out to the Stockholm restaurant.

The last 6 months the princess has been escorted by a private owned company when she has been in town.

On Saturday night, Princess Madeleine went to the restaurant/bar Kharma in Stockholm.

There she saw a fight between current boyfriend Jonas Bergström and ex-boyfriend
Erik Granath.

Säpo is confirming that they had a bodyguard with princess Madeleine that night.

– We were there with her. We can't comment further., says Andes Till , Säpos spokesman(spokesman for the personnel department?)

According to Säpo, they only protects the prime minister , the king and Crown Princess Victoria.

But Säpo says that in the remaining talks with the royal family, they will address the issue of whether or not the royal family needs more protection. says Elisabeth Tarras Wahlberg.(I think)

Does Madeleine need protection now?

- Apparently, she does need some from the Säpo, says Tarras-Wahlberg.


Princess Madeleine is not alone in being exposed in the family. Crown Princess Victoria has also had periods of increased protection as well from Säpo.

When, last winter, she visited Västergötland(Western Sweden, near Goteborg) she had an increased police protection.(That was the first trip after the death of Anna Lindh.)

They are looking for the 5 men with the unhealthy(No comments, please) interest in Princess Madeleine.
 
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Well, here's another one. It may be nothing but it comes at the worst time for the Royal Couple. He may be in the "innersta kretsen" but not as close as Mr. Nyhlen implies. O, well. Okay. A friend of Madeleine's was picked up for drugs. The guy apparently is a real party animal. And apparently generous as well. But still
 
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Hi! Is true tha Princess Madeleine is pregnant?? A magazine said that Queen Silvia will be grandma! :shock:
 
Originally posted by Hatsumomo@Feb 17th, 2004 - 8:32 pm
Hi! Is true tha Princess Madeleine is pregnant?? A magazine said that Queen Silvia will be grandma!  :shock:
I doubt it. I haven't heard anything like that. It is most likely just someone trying to sell magazines as usual.
 
Originally posted by Hatsumomo@Feb 17th, 2004 - 3:32 pm
Hi! Is true tha Princess Madeleine is pregnant?? A magazine said that Queen Silvia will be grandma!  :shock:
What magazine is the source for this bit of news? I do wish they'd stop spreading rumours around.
 
Poor Madeline. That's a horrible rumor for anyone to face, but to see it in print... *shudders*
 
Originally posted by Fireweaver@Feb 17th, 2004 - 5:35 pm
Poor Madeline. That's a horrible rumor for anyone to face, but to see it in print... *shudders*
Especially when you´re not sure, if you are pregnant or not...just imagine you go to the city to buy a pregnancy test and a magazine with the latest news on you in it, and then you read the magazine (which tell you, that you´re pregnant) before you make the test...this would drive you crazy ;)
And often mags say that a celebrity/Royal is pregnant, when she has gained a bit...and this can be very offending
 
What a bohemian girl. Living in apartment, driving cheap KIA, wearing same dresses. Many royals should learn from her.

She is very beautiful and has warm smile.
All the best to her.
 
From SE&HÖR (the article won´t be very long online)
For those, who like little details (IMO they say much more about a Royal than big staged TV-shows) as much as me...
Lately Madeleine and Jonas went to IKEA (which is IMO a sensation itself ;) ) and they bought...a garlic press, a whisk and a saucepan for pasta...it seems as if our little wild Madeleine would become homely...and I like the idea...Madeleine and Jonas cooking-that´s an nice imagination
SE&HÖR
 
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