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Old 05-20-2012, 02:58 AM
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I dunno where to ask this but what time does the Christening start?
It starts at 12.00 swedish time, program here:
Program 22 maj - Sveriges Kungahus [NS4 version]
The guests start to arrive at 11.00 swedish time. After the christening the king and the queen host a reception, and after that there is a private lunch.
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:04 AM
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aw man that's 3am my time! I hate that I'll have to miss it.
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:11 AM
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Sofia and Chris attend the Baptism
Now the king defies tradition

Chris O'Neill and Sofia Hellqvist are both invited to Estelle's baptism. Normally no royal children's boyfriends and girlfriends have been invited to the official events before they got engaged. But this time it's different. Both Chris and Sofia have received a personal invitation from the king and queen.
- Daniel was never invited before he became engaged to Victoria. But this is a clear recognition that Chris and Sofia are now part of the family. I don't think they have forced themselves to this, but it is simply a clear statement from the royal couple that they have accepted Madeleine's and Carl Philip's partners. It's great that the king departs from the old principles that they should be engaged to appear in official contexts. Both Madeleine and Carl Philip are living with their partners so it is natural that they attend the baptism. It is obviously a sign that Carl Philip and Madeleine will soon be engaged. Within a year, both Chris and Sofia are part of the family in full, says Roger Lundgren, chief editor of the royal magazine "Kungliga magasinet".
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Old 05-20-2012, 12:51 PM
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Sofia and Chris attend the Baptism
Now the king defies tradition

Chris O'Neill and Sofia Hellqvist are both invited to Estelle's baptism. Normally no royal children's boyfriends and girlfriends have been invited to the official events before they got engaged. But this time it's different. Both Chris and Sofia have received a personal invitation from the king and queen.
- Daniel was never invited before he became engaged to Victoria. But this is a clear recognition that Chris and Sofia are now part of the family. I don't think they have forced themselves to this, but it is simply a clear statement from the royal couple that they have accepted Madeleine's and Carl Philip's partners. It's great that the king departs from the old principles that they should be engaged to appear in official contexts. Both Madeleine and Carl Philip are living with their partners so it is natural that they attend the baptism. It is obviously a sign that Carl Philip and Madeleine will soon be engaged. Within a year, both Chris and Sofia are part of the family in full, says Roger Lundgren, chief editor of the royal magazine "Kungliga magasinet".
Nu bryter kungen mot traditionen | Nyheter | Aftonbladet
Swedish newpapers and magazines (remember Svensk Damtidning and the date for the baptism?) tend to come up with royal news in the hope it will turn out to be correct. We will just have to wait and see. If Chris and Sofia are indeed invited for the official part of the event we can assume engagements are planned shortly or have already happened and will become official soon. Committments for engagement and marriage must certainly have been made in order for the King to allow the two to attend.
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Old 05-20-2012, 01:05 PM
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Roger Lundgren, who comments at the Aftonbladet's story, is also involved with SVT's live coverage of the christening as a commentator and royal expert.

Scanned article from Se & Hör, Victoria and Estelle with Victoria's friend Caroline Nilsson and her daughters on 2nd May at Bögsgård in Sollentuna, 15 minutes drive north from Stockholm. Since Victoria likes nature and animals, it has become one of hers and Estelle's favourite places.
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Old 05-20-2012, 01:50 PM
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At which time will the guestlist be published tomorrow?
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Old 05-20-2012, 01:53 PM
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At which time will the guestlist be published tomorrow?
It hasn't been told, Bertil Ternert said just that the guest list will be published on Monday.
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Roger Lundgren, who comments at the Aftonbladet's story, is also involved with SVT's live coverage of the christening as a commentator and royal expert.

Scanned article from Se & Hör, Victoria and Estelle with Victoria's friend Caroline Nilsson and her daughters on 2nd may at Bögsgård in Sollentuna, 15 minutes drive north from Stockholm. Since Victoria likes nature and animals, it has become one of hers and Estelle's favourite places.
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Thank you LadyFinn for those beautiful pictures! What do you think, is it an iPhone in her hand?
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Old 05-20-2012, 01:56 PM
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Thank you LadyFinn for those beautiful pictures! What do you think, is it an iPhone in her hand?
It was written last year that Victoria has an iPhone, about the photo I can not say if this is iPhone.
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Thank you LadyFinn for those beautiful pictures! What do you think, is it an iPhone in her hand?
It's the right size and shape but a lot of smartphones look like that.
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Old 05-20-2012, 02:13 PM
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It was written last year that Victoria has an iPhone, about the photo I can not say if this is iPhone.
Well, Victoria and Daniel got the latest Nokia phones from the Finnish president recently, so it could be that one.
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Old 05-20-2012, 02:19 PM
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Well, Victoria and Daniel got the latest Nokia phones from the Finnish president recently, so it could be that one.
Victoria got a pink Nokia Lumia phone from president Niinistö and mrs Haukio.
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Victoria got a pink Nokia Lumia phone from president Niinistö and mrs Haukio.
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:09 AM
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Guest list for the Christening is up. Pretty good Royal attendance.
http://www.kungahuset.se/download/18...n+20120522.pdf
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:39 PM
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The office of the president of Finland told to the press, that Victoria got a pink Nokia Lumia, Daniel a blue one and Carl Philip a black one.
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Old 05-22-2012, 06:01 AM
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Estelles Coat of Arms and Monogram:

Vapen och monogram - Sveriges Kungahus [NS4 version]
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Princess Estelle's arms and monogram

Vapen och monogram - Sveriges Kungahus [NS4 version] *** translation
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:09 AM
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How is she a Princess from birth?

Sorry if this has been covered on one of the very long threads, but when did children born to a Princess start getting royal titles in Sweden? Traditionally even in most monarchies that allowed women to succeed to the throne children of a woman who was not the sovereign or married to him were not automatically titled. This is true in the UK and in Spain, for instance. George VI had to make Charles a Prince by decree, b/c he wouldn't inherit any title from his mother and wouldn't inherit a princely British title from his father. I think in Holland the child/ren of a princess were given titles by the queen, but it wasn't an automatic thing.
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:55 AM
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I am assuming it is since Sweden has gone over to equal primogeniture. In this case Victoria's children are treated no differently than if she had been a prince. For example, Crown Prince Frederick of Denmark's children are princes and princesses so there is no reason why the Swedish crown princess' children wouldn't also have such titles.

Nowadays in countries with equal primogeniture it's not just about women being able to succeed(in the absence of a male heir) it's about them being on equal footing with men.
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Old 05-23-2012, 09:41 AM
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As far as I know it's the king who decides what title members of the royal family shall have, and I would say that it's first when princess Madeleine gets her first child we will really know whether a child inherits the title of prince/ss from the mother or not.
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