Press Reports about Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist, Part 2: April 2012 - June 2014

[muriel]

Carl Philip and Sofia on Tuesday evening at the Swedish icehockey league match between AIK and HV71 at the Hovet Arena in Stockholm. Photos by Jessica Gow/Scanpix.
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Carl Philip och Sofia myste på hockeymatch Svensk Damtidning
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Mys inför alla hjärtans dag - med ishockey Nyheter Expressen Senaste nytt - Nyheter Sport Nöje TV
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Carl Philip + Sofia - Doch noch verliebt GALA.DE
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Sofia looks very beautiful in these pics and Carl Philip looks very sweet in the first one

I think the writing is on the wall. Sofia is the chosen one. IMO, it is just a question of time before they are willing to take their relationship to the next level. I suggest the Swedish people had better get used to the idea.

 

[LadyFinn]

I think the writing is on the wall. Sofia is the chosen one. IMO, it is just a question of time before they are willing to take their relationship to the next level. I suggest the Swedish people had better get used to the idea.

From what I have read from the swedish media, most of the swedes want Carl Philip to marry the woman he loves even if the woman is Sofia, but they have negative opinions of Sofia becoming a princess.

 

[Meraude]

I think the writing is on the wall. Sofia is the chosen one. IMO, it is just a question of time before they are willing to take their relationship to the next level. I suggest the Swedish people had better get used to the idea.

I don't have anything against him marrying Sofia, but I do object to her becoming a princess. As well as princess Madeleine's husband not becoming a prince, nor should prince Carl Philip's wife become a princess. It's one thing that the spouse of a future monarch becomes a royal prince, but there is nothing today that says that there should be any difference in the status of the spouses of younger siblings depending on if one is male and the other is female. As well as having equal primogeniture with the children i the royal family having the same right to inherit the throne, their spouses (with the exception of the future heir's) should have the same rank and title. If one spouse should be without title or get a ducal title by marriage, the same should be true for the spouse(s) of the other sibling(s).

 

[Lenora]

I don't have anything against him marrying Sofia, but I do object to her becoming a princess. As well as princess Madeleine's husband not becoming a prince, nor should prince Carl Philip's wife become a princess. It's one thing that the spouse of a future monarch becomes a royal prince, but there is nothing today that says that there should be any difference in the status of the spouses of younger siblings depending on if one is male and the other is female. As well as having equal primogeniture with the children i the royal family having the same right to inherit the throne, their spouses (with the exception of the future heir's) should have the same rank and title. If one spouse should be without title or get a ducal title by marriage, the same should be true for the spouse(s) of the other sibling(s).

Thank You for your opinion.
What is a general attitude of Swedish people towards Sofia?

 

[Pranter]

I thought people in Sweden/Europe etc were all about people being 'free' to do what they want without the issue of sin/morality/values being imposed on them?

I know on this board the majority are quick to pounce if you dare raise the issue of something being sinful or immoral.

It's an interesting dichotomy to see they have different standards for their royals.


LaRae

 

[Lumutqueen]

It's an interesting dichotomy to see they have different standards for their royals.

Of course there are different standards for royalty. Whilst they profess to normal people they're far from it. Sweden and its people have a right to object if they don't want their country represented by a porn star who posed naked with a snake. Royalty is about image, if CP wants to marry this woman personally I think he should give up his royal trappings and live the quiet unassuming life of a race car driver. I hear he's quite good at it.

 

[NGalitzine]

"porn star" is a bit of a reach.

 

[Pranter]

Why would one expect a royal to live to a different standard? They are just people like everyone else, fraught with the same weaknesses and temptations.


LaRae

 

[Dman]

Perhaps the Swedish people would be happy for Prince Carl Philip to marry the woman who he loves and knows much more better than everyone on the outside looking in.

The Prince of Wales was allowed to marry his mistress and a woman who was divorced and helped cause a great scandal. Crown Prince Haakon was allowed to marry a woman who a woman who already had a child and had a questionable past.

The royals are now marrying for love, despite what everyone else think of them.

 

[Dman]

Why would one expect a royal to live to a different standard? They are just people like everyone else, fraught with the same weaknesses and temptations.


LaRae

That's just it, the royals are imperfect humans like everybody else. They have never been perfect people because human beings aren't perfect.

 

[NGalitzine]

I don't actually expect their private lives to be any different than anyone elses. I do expect that when on public duty they represent their countries in a professional manner to the best of their abilities.
I certainly do not expect anyone who was not born into a royal family to have lived their entire life as if they were a potential prince or princess whose every move would be subject to public scrutiny. Baring a serious criminal record I can see few barriers to marriage. Once they marry into such a family I expect them to publically behave in the same professional manner as the family they married into.

 

[CrownPrincess5]

Of course there are different standards for royalty. Whilst they profess to normal people they're far from it. Sweden and its people have a right to object if they don't want their country represented by a porn star who posed naked with a snake. Royalty is about image, if CP wants to marry this woman personally I think he should give up his royal trappings and live the quiet unassuming life of a race car driver. I hear he's quite good at it.

This is the first time I've ever agreed with you on this subject!

 

[CrownPrincess5]

Perhaps the Swedish people would be happy for Prince Carl Philip to marry the woman who he loves and knows much more better than everyone on the outside looking in.

The Prince of Wales was allowed to marry his mistress and a woman who was divorced and helped cause a great scandal. Crown Prince Haakon was allowed to marry a woman who a woman who already had a child and had a questionable past.

The royals are now marrying for love, despite what everyone else think of them.

Camilla and Mette Marit never posed nude. It's very annoying when people compare them with Sofia. Yes, marry for love, but she should not be a princess.

 

[Dman]

Well, they all had an interesting past. I don't think they define themselves by what they did back then.

 

[Meraude]

I thought people in Sweden/Europe etc were all about people being 'free' to do what they want without the issue of sin/morality/values being imposed on them?

I know on this board the majority are quick to pounce if you dare raise the issue of something being sinful or immoral.

It's an interesting dichotomy to see they have different standards for their royals.


LaRae

If this is about my comment, I don't mention anything about morality, but that the same rules should apply to the spouses of royal children who are not the direct heir. Unless the king creates the future spouse of princess Madeleine a royal prince, nor should he create the future spouse of prince Carl Philip a royal princess. What I want is equal rules for spouses regardless of gender of the royal partner. Unless the rules are the same for all children, it would look that the king still thinks that male children are more worthy than female children, and I don't think there should be any difference between how children are treated depending of their sex. Sweden is very much about equal opportunities regardless of sex, and why should the royal family be an exception????

For those who thinks that female spouses of royal princes should automatically become royal princesses, while the male spouses of royal princesses should not get their wife's rank, do you think males are worth more??? If not, then why do you accept different rules depending on the sex of the royal partner? That it's been so historically is NOT a good answer, times have changed and so should outdated concepts of male "superiority" in elevating a female to a higher rank when it comes to marriage.

 

[Bosana]

Well said! That is the essence of the question. It's not complicated at all. Equality is of prime importance.

 

[LadyFinn]

At the cover of Svensk Damtidning:
Carl Philip tells
Sofia means so much to me
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[USCtrojan]

At the cover of Svensk Damtidning:
Carl Philip tells
Sofia means so much to me
SDT1309_

All signs point to engagement announcement in July after Madeline's wedding is over.

Sweden will have a new princess in summer of 2014.

 

[Lumutqueen]

All signs point to engagement announcement in July after Madeline's wedding is over.

Sweden will have a new princess in summer of 2014.

You know this how?

 

[USCtrojan]

You know this how?

I don't, this is just my speculation being that this magazine consistently says this stuff.

If this is the case as the magazine says, then why would this couple wait much longer to announce an engagement and or get married?

Unless this relationship is so far on the rocks that it is not coming back (which I don't sense) then I don't see why carl would hesitate announcing his engagement if he loves this girl and they are so in love and want to get married.

My point was simply that there is no reason why he should have to wait a year to announce an engagement and another year to get married. So, perhaps they will announce this engagement that Evernote is saying is brewing as soon as possible (July?) and marry as soon as they can ( my assumption would be that they would do as everyone else and get married in the summer).

Just my opinion.

 

[LadyFinn]

At the cover of Svensk Damtidning:
Carl Philip tells
Sofia means so much to me
SDT1309_

Svensk Damtidning writes in their paper version about Carl Philip and Sofia at the icehockey game some time ago. They hold hands all the time and sat close to each other. According to SDT, Carl Philip and Sofia are the royal couple most in love in the whole Europe right now. There is no doubt about it - the engagement is near now. "It will be Carl Philip and Sofia, it just is so", says a "source close to the couple".
Carl Philip is said to have explained to his family and relatives how very fond and in love he is with Sofia. And how much she really means to him. If anyone has had doubts of the couple earlier, they definitely do not have doubts now.

But we shall remember, that SDT has written similar articles before and predicted an engagement many, many times before too.

 

[NGalitzine]

Did the gossip press write the same kind of stories about CP and Emma when they were together?

 

[LadyFinn]

Did the gossip press write the same kind of stories about CP and Emma when they were together?

As far as I remember, the gossip press didn't write very much about CP and Emma, they weren't seen very much together in public. Times have changed, the gossip press is more hungry about news of the royal family, and of course Sofia because of her background is much more interesting person to the gossip press than Emma. I think that Emma didn't want to be seen on the media. And the rules of how CP and Madeleine may act with their partners in public seem to have changed also radically, if you compare the things how they were about five years ago. And Svensk Damtidning has also changed during the years, it has become more and more like a gossip magazine writing unreliable stories, while it at first was a rather good magazine.

Article in Aftonbladet about Carl Philip and Sofia and that they show their love openly
Här slår Carl Philip och Sofia tillbaka mot krisryktena Klick! Nöjesbladet Aftonbladet

 

[blauerengel]

It is not "the gossip press is more hungry about news of the royal family" but the people who demand more information and thus make the yellow paper create &hunt for more pictures &stories of the royals.Look at the pages,the Sofia&CP-relationship has raised a lot more controversy and discussions than any other topic on this board.Some royals have a very ordinary,balanced lifestyle and don´t wear extravagant clothes or have affairs all the time-that´s why they are not so much followed by the press.

 

[LadyFinn]

Carl Philip and Sofia at the cover of Se & Hör
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[Meraude]

Did the gossip press write the same kind of stories about CP and Emma when they were together?

No, there were not so much interest in Emma, as she wasn't a celebrity, "just" a royal girlfriend and a discreet one. Sofia was already known to the Swedish public when she started dating Carl Philip, she was something of a pseudo/semi-celebrity in Swedish gossip columns as being a "Slitz girl" and having participated in Big Brother, so naturally the gossip magazines got interested of their relationship. I think the first notice I had of Carl Philip and Sofia seeing each-others were when a newspapers wrote how Sofia had sent a giddy message to her friends about her date with Carl Philip.

 

[LadyFinn]

From MTV3, quoting Johan T Lindwall's article in Expressen.

The situation between Carl Philip and Madeleine culminated at the weekend to that Carl Philip and Sofia didn't attend at Estelle's birthday party with the rest of the royal family.
Instead of the party, Carl Philip and Sofia spent the weekend at their holiday house with their friends. So Carl Philip didn't attend at the birthday party of his godchild. Carl Philip and Sofia were seen skiing, and they returned to Stockholm on Sunday.
Bertil Ternert from the court press department told to Expressen, that there had been earlier agreed other goings for Carl Philip, so he could not attend at the birthday party on Saturday. However, the prince will celebrate Estelle's birthday later. Carl Philip doesn't understand Expressen's writing about that he was angry for Madeleine, according to Ternert this information isn't correct.
Carl Philip poissa Estellen juhlista – syynä kaasoriita - Uutiset - Viihde - MTV3.fi

The cover of Expressen:
Carl Philip's and Sofia's protest after the row with Madde
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A video of Carl Philip and Sofia in Värmland during the weekend
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Photos from Lehtikuva
"Prince Carl Philip and his girlfriend Sofia Hellqvist is seen in Sunne, Sweden, February 24, 2013. The couple did not celebrate Princess Estelle's first birthday. They chose to spend the weekend with friend in Prince Carl Philips sports cabin in Sunne, Sweden with some friends. Prince Carl Philip was preparing for the participation in the Vasaloppet ski race next weekend."
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[LadyFinn]

Carl Philip is skiing at the Stafettvasan relay today.
Prins Carl Philip åker Stafettvasan - Sport SVT.se

And it seems that Sofia is skiing at the relay also, since Madeleine wishes them success at her Facebook:
My dearest brother and Sofia, I wish you both all the best of luck today!!!!
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Madeleines lyckönskningar till Carl Philip Nyheter Expressen Senaste nytt - Nyheter Sport Nöje TV
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Första bilden på prinsen i spåret Svensk Damtidning
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Carl Philip was skiing the first leg at his team, at the same team was also Madeleine's best friend Louise Gottlieb.
Sofia skis the last leg at her team, so Carl Philip can be waiting her when she finishes her race, writes Svensk Damtidning.
Madeleine Önskar min käre bror och Sofia lycka till idag! Svensk Damtidning
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Carl Philip's team was Team Due, the other skiers were Anders Lindstedt, Niclas Andersson, Louise Gottlieb and Jan-Åke Hansson (Carl Philip's good friend).
Sofia's team was Team Uno, the other skiers were Johan Hamre, Wilhelm Risberg, Johan Andersson and Henric Weijber. Risberg did his military service with Carl Philip and studied with him in Lundsberg, Weijber studied with Carl Philip at the Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences in Alnarp.
Prins Carl Philip körde Stafettvasan - Vasaloppet - dt.se

Carl-Philip has previously participated in both the classic Vasaloppet and SkejtVasan, but for Sofia Hellqvist this is the first time - even though she grew up in the immediate vicinity of the track.
Do you have any tips to Sofia who has not been taking part before?
- It is important not to take too much in the beginning, says Carl Philip.
Photo of Carl Philip and Sofia before the StafettVasan
”Jag är taggad” Nyheter Aftonbladet

 

[LadyFinn]

Photos of Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist at StafettVasan
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Vasaloppet Senaste nytt vasaloppet.se

Carl Philip got a hug after his race from Sofia's mother Marie, she, Sofia's father Erik and Sofia's grandmother were watching the race. Carl Philip praised Sofia. Carl Philip skiied 24 kilometres and Sofia 17 kilometres.
Prinsen efter loppet Sofia har vinnarskalle Nyheter Expressen Senaste nytt - Nyheter Sport Nöje TV
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Prince Carl Philip was defeated by his girlfriend Sofia Hellqvist, who said to Aftonbladet, that she is glad she did it and she is happy with her effort. At the finish line waited her boyfriend, mother Marie and father, Erik. Sofia said that it was about as tough as she had expected. Her team, Team Uno, crossed the finish line in 6 hours and 39 minutes while the prince's Team Due crossed the finish line in 6 hours and 56 minutes. Prince Carl Philip was not really happy with the waxing of skis, but Sofia Hellqvist praised the prince's effort and said that she thinks that he is cruel. Sofia said that maybe she should be better because she was born with skis on her feet. It was a couple of years ago she trained skis last but has started again.
Hon vann över sin prins Nyheter Aftonbladet

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Sofia her her mother Marie
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[LadyFinn]

Carl Philip and Sofia have given an interview to Aftonbladet about their relationship, love for Estelle - and expectations for Madeleine's wedding.

How important is it to win?
- We are definitely competitive. Though it's more fun than prestige, says Carl Philip with a laugh.
- It is especially a good activity to gather good friends, get fresh air and enjoy nature, says Sofia.
- But we will fight, Carl Philip says.
How you have prepared for the race?
- We have trained a bit at home. Both together, but also on our own, says Sofia.
- We all trained together in Sunne. We look a lot of skiing on TV and are inspired by our ski stars at the World Championships. You can also pick up some good tips from them, says Carl Philip.
- You can always train more, says Carl Philip.
- Definitely, says Sofia and nods in agreement.

Carl Philip, your training weekend in Sunne was while Princess Estelle turned one year old. There has been speculation about a wedding brawl between you and Madeleine. Was that why you didn't celebrate her birthday?
- The only thing that is true is that it was during the same weekend, which was for the simple reason that there were many people involved. We all are both sad and upset that it has painted a picture of any family feud. Of course we celebrate Estelle. She is a real little ray of sunshine that spreads joy throughout our family.
Will you be the best man to Chris O'Neill?
- I have never been asked to be best man. Nothing more to it. Should the question arise, I would of course gladly accept. It's their big day and we set up and support them in everything so it will be just like they want it.

You've been together for over three years now. Sofia, how do you feel you taken in the family?
- I have always felt welcome and treated well by Carl Philip's family.
Even with Princess Madeleine?
- Yes, of course. The teenage drama that has been painted by the media is sad. There is no such, and there has never been one. We have a great relationship.
- We are obviously very excited about the wedding. Chris is humorous and stable, there is no mistaking how happy he makes Madeleine, says Sofia.
- It's great to see Madeleine in love and happy and we are happy that she has found her true love. They complete each other in a nice way, says Carl Philip.
How do you see own your future together?
- We enjoy our relationship as it is today, said Carl Philip.
- Exactly. No pressure and no stress, says Sofia.
- But of course, we see a future together. That's why we are with each other, Carl Philip says with a smile.

The article and photos
’Det är härligt att se att Madeleine är kär och lycklig’ Aftonbladet

Carl Philip is proud of Sofia
Prinsen Jag är stolt över Sofia Nyheter Expressen Senaste nytt - Nyheter Sport Nöje TV
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