Press Reports about Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist, Part 2: April 2012 - June 2014


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This thread is a bit like a yo-yo... back and forth, back and forth
 
This thread is a good example of the Green Eyed Monster at work...and, mostly, Sofia's detractors are women.
 
Yawn, of course it´s always jealousy. We women are so vapid, am I right? :rolleyes:
 
Why should Carl Phillip be any different from Daddy Carl? Didn't the King visit strip clubs while married to Queen Silvia? I don't see what the big deal is. If the two daughters were allowed to marry commoners,why can't Carl Phillip marry the woman who makes him happy?
 
Why should Carl Phillip be any different from Daddy Carl? Didn't the King visit strip clubs while married to Queen Silvia? I don't see what the big deal is. If the two daughters were allowed to marry commoners,why can't Carl Phillip marry the woman who makes him happy?
You really have a point here !:flowers:
 
I still think Carl Philip will marry Sofia and members of the public will either accept Sofia or not, end of.
 
Yawn, of course it´s always jealousy. We women are so vapid, am I right? :rolleyes:



Yes indeed...it's out of the question that women could genuinely feel that she is unworthy of being a member of the SRF, because females are catty and dumb and unable to form opinions that require critical thinking.:cool:

It's the same as saying anyone who approves of Sofia is amoral and has probably led a sordid private life. In other words, deeply and profoundly insulting.
 
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Has anyone ever thought how the press would have handled, if Madeleine had found a man who has posed naked and dated him? Would the press have loved a man who has posed with a snake or posed in nude photos when he was a minor? Or kissed a male porn star? I think not. It is easier for the press to be positive about a pretty girl and see her as a victim who has done mistakes some years ago.
 
The press are generally much nicer to men than they are to woman
 
Yup. Plus men don't have their sexuality commodified in the same way to begin with.

The press are generally much nicer to men than they are to woman
Commodified, hmm, thanks, it's my new word for the week and it is so wonderfully descriptive. A perfect fit for the subject at hand. Yes, Maddie would have had a snowball's show in hell of publicly dating and living with a man with the same resume as Sofia.

Double standards are, unfortunately, commonplace. You can legislate equality but you cannot legislate someone's personal thinking.
 
Carl Philip skied at Team Due, they were 745th at the results.
Vasaloppet 2014
Sofia skied at Team Uno, they were 744th at the results.
Vasaloppet 2014

They came to finish together! The last skier at Carl Philip's team had got sick, and so he skied also the last leg and came to the finish together with Sofia.

Expressen has a video of Carl Philip and Sofia interviewed.
Do the prince and Sofia ski a lot together?
- Yes, we do.
How was the leg to the finish?
- Good, we took it calmly.
Sofia Hellqvist tells that she skied a lot at home in Älvdalen when she was young, four miles from Mora.
How was it to ski the race?
- It felt fantastic. I have been sick during the week so it feels like a rematch.
How much have you trained?
- Too little really. I have had a busy period at my work. And I have been sick.
Have you had time to talk with princess Madeleine after she got her daughter Leonore Lilian Maria last week?
- Yes, I'm happy for their sake. I'm longing to meet little Leonore.
When you are going to see her?
- It will take some time. Until the biggest storm is over. There are many who want to visit.
Before prince Carl Philip and his girlfriend left the finish area in Mora they hugged.
- This has been fun. To ski with friends. I can warmly recommend it to others also, says Sofia Hellqvist.
Sofias samtal med Madeleine Jätteglad Nyheter Expressen Senaste nytt - Nyheter Sport Nöje TV¨

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KUVAT Prinssi Carl Philip ja Sofia Hellqvist söpöilivät hiihtokisoissa - Uutiset - Viihde - MTV.fi

Carl Philip & Sofia So verliebt beim Wasalauf! BUNTE.de
 
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What bothers me it's that the swedish press seemed to dislike a lot Daniel and Chris (Chris above all because he cares for his privacy) while Sofia, who does anything to give away information to the press is welcomed! But I guess that's the business. I dislike her a lot but CP will marry her, no doubt :-(
 
Why on earth would they want to interview him? What's next? The lady of the bakershop where she buys her bread? The mechanic who repaired her car? Her butcher? Why don't they research something more useful, her company's finances for example (something about which Daniel got grilled, even though he did NOT use his royal connections for promotion).

And secondly: is he still her personal trainer after this? I can't imagine any fiancee-to-be would be allowed to have blabbering people around him/her. Only some designers are allowed to blabber once in a while, perhaps for a discount (and always AFTER a wedding).

And on a third note: how much further do they want to dumb down the Swedish monarchy?

Why this woman is so 'special' and gets away with so much is still a mystery to me.
 
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Why on earth would they want to interview him? What's next? The lady of the bakershop where she buys her bread? The mechanic who repaired her car? Her butcher? Why don't they research something more useful, her company's finances for example (something about which Daniel got grilled, even though he did NOT use his royal connections for promotion).

And secondly: is he still her personal trainer after this? I can't imagine any fiancee-to-be would be allowed to have blabbering people around him/her. Only some designers are allowed to blabber once in a while, perhaps for a discount (and always AFTER a wedding).

And on a third note: how much further do they want to dumb down the Swedish monarchy?
That IS exactly what I meant in the previous post;)
 
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I'm not understanding this idea that the media is treating Sofia different than Daniel or Chris. I'm not seeing any evidence that they are treating her special than the others.

The media is obviously looking for signs that would point to an engagement between Carl Philip & Sofia. Also, they are trying to fill their newspaper pages too.
 
Marengo;And on a third note: how much further do they want to dumb down the Swedish monarchy?

Why this woman is so 'special' and gets away with so much is still a mystery to me.
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You took the words right out of my mind................why is she so danm special? Daniel is worth a million more then this person or even the king himself!
 
I'm not understanding this idea that the media is treating Sofia different than Daniel or Chris. I'm not seeing any evidence that they are treating her special than the others.

The media is obviously looking for signs that would point to an engagement between Carl Philip & Sofia. Also, they are trying to fill their newspaper pages too.

Almost all the articles about Sofia have been very positive since from the beginning, although she has a very shady past, she has had no proper job and she has been very energetic in searching for fame and publicity. Daniel, Emma and Jonas had all faultless pasts and they were working in full-time jobs, they acted discreetly and they were not giving interviews. The media described Daniel for being dumb, dull and dowdy although he had had his own company already five years before he started dating with Victoria. Daniel gave a couple of interviews about his gyms and work to economy newspapers. He demanded that no questions were made about Victoria and he demanded to read the interviews before they were put to the newspaper. The media didn't write every month about a possible engagement between Emma and Carl Philip like it writes about Sofia. The media didn't praise in every article how nice Daniel, Emma and Jonas were.
The way the media and the king treats Sofia is totally different how they treated Daniel, Emma and Jonas. As for the media, it has something to do with that the time have changed. The press and young people idolize TV-reality show stars like Sofia. Chris has also got a lot of very negative press of which he self caused some by raising his middle finger towards the photographers.

Daniel's and Chris' businesses have been searched thoroughly. The press isn't interested in Sofia's businesses and how they started Project Playground.
The king has made everything possible by treating Sofia totally different than Daniel, Emma and Jonas. Every praising article about Sofia where she speaks about Carl Philip or other members of the royal family, is a slap on the faces of Daniel, Emma and Jonas. It looks like the king didn't value the discreet behaviour and dignity of Daniel, Emma and Jonas very high at all.
 
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Almost all the articles about Sofia have been very positive since from the beginning, although she has a very shady past, she has had no proper job and she has been very energetic in searching for fame and publicity. Daniel, Emma and Jonas had all faultless pasts and they were working in full-time jobs, they acted discreetly and they were not giving interviews. The media described Daniel for being dumb, dull and dowdy although he had had his own company already five years before he started dating with Victoria. Daniel gave a couple of interviews about his gyms and work to economy newspapers. He demanded that no questions were made about Victoria and he demanded to read the interviews before they were put to the newspaper. The media didn't write every month about a possible engagement between Emma and Carl Philip like it writes about Sofia. The media didn't praise in every article how nice Daniel, Emma and Jonas were.
The way the media and the king treats Sofia is totally different how they treated Daniel, Emma and Jonas. As for the media, it has something to do with that the time have changed. The press and young people idolize TV-reality show stars like Sofia. Chris has also got a lot of very negative press of which he self caused some by raising his middle finger towards the photographers.

Daniel's and Chris' businesses have been searched thoroughly. The press isn't interested in Sofia's businesses and how they started Project Playground.
The king has made everything possible by treating Sofia totally different than Daniel, Emma and Jonas. Every praising article about Sofia where she speaks about Carl Philip or other members of the royal family, is a slap on the faces of Daniel, Emma and Jonas. It looks like the king didn't value the discreet behaviour and dignity of Daniel, Emma and Jonas very high at all.

From what I see, Sofia's time is pretty much taken up by her work with Project Playground.

The media treated Sofia pretty badly because they found her past a little too interesting to be dating a member of the Swedish royal family. There were all kind of stories made up about her, so she tried to set the record straight when she could and I think Carl Philip and the royal family understood her position. The press came down harder on her than they did with Emma, Daniel, Chris and Jonas, IMO.

I think Sofia has conducted herself with a great deal of dignity and grace while dating Prince Carl Philip. From what I see, Sofia is focused on the right stuff...her relationship with Carl Philip and her work with Project Playground.
 
I think that the only press that came down hard on her was the foreign press. The Spanish language press refers to her as ex-stripper or ex-pornstar, which she isn't. But other than that, I can not recall any negative articles TBH. Bunte and the Swedish tabloids are doing the exact opposite, presenting her as Sweden's awnser to mother Teresa of Calcutta. If she stayed more in the background, improving her own life and not depending on the Swedish RF for publicity and for white washing her actions, I would find it more redeeming than the course she has chosen to make herself salonfähig.

But the Swedish court must approve of her eternal babbling to the press about 'light' topics (I loooove to see Madeleine's baby). It seems that the last 10 years or so the press department has changed their media approach and is commenting on each and every shallow question of the gossip magazines, which usually leaves the impression of an extremely shallow court. This kind of media approach is IMHO better suited for publicity agents of D-listers, not of a reigning RF.
 
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I think that the only press that came down hard on her was the foreign press. The Spanish language press refers to her as ex-stripper or ex-pornstar, which she isn't. But other than that, I can not recall any negative articles TBH. Bunte and the Swedish tabloids are doing the exact opposite, presenting her as Sweden's awnser to mother Teresa of Calcutta.

I don't think the tabloids are trying to present Sofia as the next Mother Teresa. I don't see the problem in reporting on the nice things she and Project Playground is doing. I think its nice to read and hear positive news on what people are doing in helping others.
 
The way people here talks that Prince Carl Philip can do whatever he wants because The King - yes, it's His Majesty The King, not "daddy" - never says "no" to him, it looks like the Prince is some troublemaker who is always doing wrongs things.

The Prince is a young man who's serving his country and helping his Family. Sofia is a lovely woman, and she'll be a great Princess, an true asset for the Royal Family.
 
Isn't it strange that pics of Sofia at the Te Deum were not published in the royal family site? Above all if and engagement is expected soon...
I might recall wrong but when she attended the Te Deum for Estelle the photos of her were published... Maybe I'm mistaken
 
I don't know about the Te Deum for Estelle but at her christening there were many pics of Sofia on the Swedish Monarchy website compared to only 2 of CP Mary who is Estelle's godmother. I still find that very strange to be honest. Sofia was also in the official family pic at the reading of Madeleine's wedding banns. So I definitely see an engagement in the near future. :)
 
Isn't it strange that pics of Sofia at the Te Deum were not published in the royal family site? Above all if and engagement is expected soon...
I might recall wrong but when she attended the Te Deum for Estelle the photos of her were published... Maybe I'm mistaken

Why? Sofia is currently not a member of the Royal Family,if and when she is I'm sure we'll have plenty of photos.
 
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