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Old 06-11-2013, 05:15 AM
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To become a member of the royal family it is necessary to give up your own job. Does this fact also mean that you have give up a job in a charity organisation?

Would this mean, that Sofia have to stop her work for "Project Playground" to get the HRH Princess of Sweden, Duchess of Värmland?
I would not call the charity efforts of the Princesses and other ladies a "job", it is rather a volunteering for the good cause,they usually do not get paid for their work. There are of course some people who are working+getting paid by charity organisations, like social workers,therapists,fundraising specialists etc. but Sofia probably volunteers and does not work at PP as a day job.
Therefore I believe she does not need to give up this charity, there is no conflict of interests and she would probably not get to do such important royal functions like CP Victoria and other members of the Royal family do.
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Old 06-11-2013, 05:50 AM
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I guess there will be an engagement shortly after the Throne anniversary and a wonderful wedding on 14 June 2014.
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Old 06-11-2013, 07:10 AM
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Why the 14th ????
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Old 06-11-2013, 07:13 AM
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It would be easier to remind. My husband and I chose a date that it is easy for him not to forget. :-)

14-06-14, the year and the day are the same.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:31 AM
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The royal magazine Svensk Damtidning
"Sofia's transformation from Paradise Hotel to ambitious Princess"
Sofias förvandling från Paradise Hotel till aspirerande prinsessa Svensk Damtidning
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:14 AM
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Sofia has come a long way and I'm happy that she and Prince Carl Philip are happy. That's what's important.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:32 AM
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Do you think we Will see a engagement this year and a wedding next year?
I would guess absolutely. There is simply no reason for them to wait.
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Old 06-11-2013, 05:55 PM
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It would be easier to remind. My husband and I chose a date that it is easy for him not to forget. :-)

14-06-14, the year and the day are the same.
Oh yes ! Thank for this info.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:13 PM
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The royal magazine Svensk Damtidning
"Sofia's transformation from Paradise Hotel to ambitious Princess"
Sofias förvandling från Paradise Hotel till aspirerande prinsessa Svensk Damtidning
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Sofia certainly has a charming presence & a pretty face, but before the "Princess Makeover" her outfits, make-up and public image were rather tacky. I am happy that she has changed her style & attitude and looks much more elegant and classy now. There is a media campaign to improve her public image and she behaved appropriately at Estelle´s christening & Madeleine´s wedding too. I hope that she continues with her efforts so that she can show that she is a different person today & people forgive her past. That said, I also believe that the relationship is serious, I would not speculate about a wedding, but Prince Carl-Philip seems to be very happy with her.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:27 PM
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I'm hoping for a fall engagement, a spring wedding and a Princess Sofia. Anything less would be, to say the least, rude.
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I'm hoping for a fall engagement, a spring wedding and a Princess Sofia. Anything less would be, to say the least, rude.
Why would it be rude?
And I doubt she'll have the princess title.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:16 PM
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Why would it be rude?
And I doubt she'll have the princess title.
She will probably have only the duchess title.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:36 PM
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I think the title of Princess will come automatically with her marrying a Prince....
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:39 PM
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Unless I'm mistaken, the King will decide the title Carl Philip's wife will hold. The options are Princess, Duchess or nothing.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:35 PM
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Don't think she would automatically get the Princess title or the Duchess title. I don't know what other titles there would be. She may in time, though depending on how things work out.
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Old 06-13-2013, 12:34 AM
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Why not suggest that CP step down and become a normal citizen?
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:18 AM
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I think the title of Princess will come automatically with her marrying a Prince....
Even Catherine Middleton, who married Prince William, got the title "Duchess of Cambridge", a Duke/Duchess title in front of your name is nothing to sniff at It should be perfectly well, it gives her a royal title that is accepted and recognised by the public and the establishment.
BTW: People still call Catherine "Princess Kate" because the media always refers to her this way, so even Sofia would over the time be called "Princess" even though she is officially a Duchess.

Princess Madeleine´s first fiancé would have got a Ducal title (if he did not screw up the way he did)
Source of information:Wikipedia article about Princess Madeleine, Duchess of Hälsingland and Gästrikland:
"It had been announced in 2009 that after the wedding, Bergström was to be referred to as Duke of Hälsingland and Gästrikland to correspond with Madeleine's title."

If we use this example for Sofia H., she would become Sofia,Duchess of Värmland
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:26 AM
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Given how the Swedes are always on about equality it would be hard for the court to explain why a Swedish male commoner married a Swedish princess and became HRH Prince and Duke, but a Swedish female commoner who marries a Swedish prince should not also share his rank and titles. Sounds kind of sexist in the land of equality for all. With Chris they got away with it by saying he is a non Swede and he is a principle in a business, can't use the same reasoning for Sofia.
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Given how the Swedes are always on about equality it would be hard for the court to explain why a Swedish male commoner married a Swedish princess and became HRH Prince and Duke, but a Swedish female commoner who marries a Swedish prince should not also share his rank and titles. Sounds kind of sexist in the land of equality for all. With Chris they got away with it by saying he is a non Swede and he is a principle in a business, can't use the same reasoning for Sofia.
That´s true, equality is a big issue in Sweden & they will make sure that a female entering the RF will be treated with the same respect like a man. Therefore I would bet on "Sofia,Duchess of Värmland" when she gets married.
As far as I understood, Chris O´Neill did decline the title by his own wish, through his work and his wealth he already has a good social position and prefers to lead a private life away from the limelight or the intrusion of the press. It was not about the Swedish royal family denying him a title, he wanted to marry Princess Madeleine for love,not because of her social status or to obtain a title!
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:08 AM
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Given how the Swedes are always on about equality it would be hard for the court to explain why a Swedish male commoner married a Swedish princess and became HRH Prince and Duke, but a Swedish female commoner who marries a Swedish prince should not also share his rank and titles. Sounds kind of sexist in the land of equality for all. With Chris they got away with it by saying he is a non Swede and he is a principle in a business, can't use the same reasoning for Sofia.
Many swedish experts have explained that because Daniel is the husband of the future queen, it is natural that he became HRH Prince and Duke. But Svensk Damtidning wrote a couple of weeks ago, that it isn't at all certain that Sofia will be a princess. And like it has been written at this thread, Jonas would have become a Duke, not a Prince. And when this was told at the court website and swedish press when the engagement was published, there wasn't any complaints of equality regarding Daniel's and Jonas' title by the swedish press or swedish people.
And as it has been stated many times, Chris refused to have a title himself. About him wanting to remain private, as long he is married to Madeleine, he will always be at the limelight, although he has no title.
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