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Old 05-19-2012, 12:10 PM
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Having Sofia at the baptism, will put the focus on her and not Princess Estelle, not a good idea in my opinion.
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:51 PM
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Johan T Lindwall: The King's decision is daring, modern and surprising

Sofia Hellqvist at Estelle's baptism. Undoubtedly, big of the king. But above all, modern. With his decision, that goes against all the royal rules, he shows that we actually have a royal family in time. I was somewhat surprised of that Sofia Hellqvist has been invited to Estelle's baptism. There are several reasons, the main one being that the invitation goes against all the rules of the royal world. She and Prince Carl Philip are together. They live officially together. But there is one thing which they are not: Engaged.
We know what it looked like when Victoria and Daniel were together. Year after year they had to sneak with their love. It was only when the King turned 60 that Daniel could show up in a royal context. It was nearly five years after Victoria and Daniel had become a couple.

In the case of Sofia Hellqvist, it has been very different. Royals around the world arrive to the baptism and all official Sweden is represented. That is why it is an extremely daring and modern decision by the king to let Sofia attend the baptism. She is not an official member of the royal family.
What does the king's decision include? Very much. Now we can once and for all turn away all doubts, if she is approved or not by the royal couple. Invitation to the Baptism is arguably the definitive confirmation of that the royal family have accepted her. The irony of the king's decision is that it also opens the door to Madeleine's boyfriend Chris O'Neill. The person Madeleine once could not stand has now made it happen that the king has eased the rules.
What does this decision mean to the monarchy? I am convinced that in the long run it will strengthen confidence in the royal house.
Sofia is a woman of the people. Now she - just like Daniel - has access to the finer rooms. All thanks to the king.
Johan T Lindwall: Kungens beslut är vågat, modernt och överraskande | Nyheter | Expressen
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:25 PM
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Well, looks like Sofia got her way..
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:31 PM
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Director of the Information and Press Department, Bertil Ternert, told to Expressen, that they will publish the guest list on Monday.
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:48 PM
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Well, looks like Sofia got her way..
It looks that way, but I strongly doubt she pressured Their Majesties (directly or through Carl Philip) to get an invitation. It would have been a remarkably stupid thing to do, and despite some questionable decisions in her past, I doubt Sofia is a fool.
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:52 PM
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Most likely if she is invited to the christening, it was though the influence of Carl Philip. I doubt very seriously that Sofia went to the King or Queen or went to Princess Victoria and asked them to include her. That would be a pretty bold move.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:01 PM
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The king and the queen host the christening and decide the guest list.

Carl Philip has been forced to turn to the king to give Sofia a place at the Royal Chapel. Sofia was not originally invited to the christening. Expressen can reveal that Sofia Hellqvist last week told to Carl Philip: She wanted to go to the baptism and Carl Philip was forced to turn to the king.
The king and queen Silvia host the baptism and they definitively determine the guest list. Victoria and Daniel were informed. Daniel said yes (Lindwall makes it sound like Daniel can decide this for the both of them). For the King and Silvia, it was not as obvious. The king, however, gave in the beginning of the week Carl Philip the good news: Sofia can come to the baptism.
Sofia has proudly told the news to her closest. All around her are happy for the prestigious invitation. Expressen tells that Madeleine's boyfriend Chris O'Neill was invited just three days ago and it is not yet known if he can attend. Sofia and Chris have also been invited to the private lunch afterwards, and to Victoria's and Daniel's dinner at Haga Palace.
Glädjebeskedet till Sofia inför dopet | Nyheter | Expressen
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:19 PM
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It would be an abysmal decision to have Sofia Hellqvist attend this christening and make her debut as officially accepted partner in a royal context at this of all possible occasions.
Royal christenings are state occasions of the highest order, particularly in Sweden, and even more so in this special case as the heiress to the heiress of the throne will be baptized.
The focus should be all on the No. 2 in the line of succession and the sense of continuation of the Bernadotte dynasty, and definitely not on the fact that a former nude model and reality TV show contestant makes a very public debut as controversial royal girlfriend.
The christening itself would inevitably be overshadowed in the media by such a move, and the Bernadottes should be smarter than allowing this to happen; I sincerely hope that the story will turn out to be incorrect.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:24 PM
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The christening itself would inevitably be overshadowed in the media by such a move, and the Bernadottes should be smarter than allowing this to happen; I sincerely hope that the story will turn out to be incorrect.
I totally agree with you in this.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:38 PM
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Sofia has proudly told the news to her closest. All around her are happy for the prestigious invitation.
Oh, for heaven's sake.
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:03 PM
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For heaven's sake indeed.
That interesting little detail makes you wonder who promptly leaked the story to the tabloid writer - the proud one or all the happy ones around her.
...IF true.
I still find it hard to believe that the Bernadottes would act in such an ill-advised manner.
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She is vile and arrogant, and so is CP.
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:14 PM
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She is vile and arrogant, and so is CP.
About Sophia I am not sure, though she doesn't create a good impression, but CP seems to me quite modest and shy, even having a rather unsure and weak personality.
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If this is true is it not a case that the Swedish Royal Family are now saying "look, even if people are not yet engaged but are in a long-term committed relationship, they should be recognised as a unit and invited to events as a couple". ?

I could be remembering incorrectly but didn't they invite Albert & Charlene to Victoria & Daniel's wedding BEFORE Albert & Charlene were engaged. ?
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:54 PM
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Sofia with Carl Philip last Saturday, when CP was racing.
http://www.fotoinorr.se/wp-content/u...2_1196_795.jpg
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Old 05-19-2012, 04:16 PM
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That picture just rubs me the wrong way.
Carl Philip is looking lovingly at Sofia, while Sofia looks at the camera.
It's really getting increasingly hard for me not to dislike Sofia - and I believe in second chances and all.
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I could be remembering incorrectly but didn't they invite Albert & Charlene to Victoria & Daniel's wedding BEFORE Albert & Charlene were engaged. ?
They did. Victoria & Daniel were married on June 19th. The invites probably went out a few months before that. Albert & Charlene's engagement was announced on June 23rd.
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Old 05-19-2012, 04:33 PM
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They did. Victoria & Daniel were married on June 19th. The invites probably went out a few months before that. Albert & Charlene's engagement was announced on June 23rd.
I guess Albert asked an invitation to Charlene, maybe they were already secretly engaged then.
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She is vile and arrogant, and so is CP.
ITA with you. If she indeed shows up at the christening it's so wrong at so many levels.
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I guess Albert asked an invitation to Charlene, maybe they were already secretly engaged then.
He could well have taken Carl Gustaf & Silvia into his confidence and said "look, I plan to ask Charlene to marry me very soon, do you mind inviting her too". ?

That knocks my theory though about the initiative coming from Victoria's parents. Damn. !!
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