Press Reports about Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist, Part 2: April 2012 - June 2014

[muriel]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

Carl Philip and Sofia on Tuesday evening at the Swedish icehockey league match between AIK and HV71 at the Hovet Arena in Stockholm. Photos by Jessica Gow/Scanpix.
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Carl Philip och Sofia myste på hockeymatch Svensk Damtidning
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Mys inför alla hjärtans dag - med ishockey Nyheter Expressen Senaste nytt - Nyheter Sport Nöje TV
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Carl Philip + Sofia - Doch noch verliebt GALA.DE
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Originally Posted by julliette

Sofia looks very beautiful in these pics and Carl Philip looks very sweet in the first one

I think the writing is on the wall. Sofia is the chosen one. IMO, it is just a question of time before they are willing to take their relationship to the next level. I suggest the Swedish people had better get used to the idea.

[LadyFinn]

Originally Posted by muriel

I think the writing is on the wall. Sofia is the chosen one. IMO, it is just a question of time before they are willing to take their relationship to the next level. I suggest the Swedish people had better get used to the idea.

From what I have read from the swedish media, most of the swedes want Carl Philip to marry the woman he loves even if the woman is Sofia, but they have negative opinions of Sofia becoming a princess.

[Meraude]

Originally Posted by muriel

I think the writing is on the wall. Sofia is the chosen one. IMO, it is just a question of time before they are willing to take their relationship to the next level. I suggest the Swedish people had better get used to the idea.

I don't have anything against him marrying Sofia, but I do object to her becoming a princess. As well as princess Madeleine's husband not becoming a prince, nor should prince Carl Philip's wife become a princess. It's one thing that the spouse of a future monarch becomes a royal prince, but there is nothing today that says that there should be any difference in the status of the spouses of younger siblings depending on if one is male and the other is female. As well as having equal primogeniture with the children i the royal family having the same right to inherit the throne, their spouses (with the exception of the future heir's) should have the same rank and title. If one spouse should be without title or get a ducal title by marriage, the same should be true for the spouse(s) of the other sibling(s).

[Lenora]

Originally Posted by Meraude

I don't have anything against him marrying Sofia, but I do object to her becoming a princess. As well as princess Madeleine's husband not becoming a prince, nor should prince Carl Philip's wife become a princess. It's one thing that the spouse of a future monarch becomes a royal prince, but there is nothing today that says that there should be any difference in the status of the spouses of younger siblings depending on if one is male and the other is female. As well as having equal primogeniture with the children i the royal family having the same right to inherit the throne, their spouses (with the exception of the future heir's) should have the same rank and title. If one spouse should be without title or get a ducal title by marriage, the same should be true for the spouse(s) of the other sibling(s).

Thank You for your opinion.
What is a general attitude of Swedish people towards Sofia?

[Pranter]

I thought people in Sweden/Europe etc were all about people being 'free' to do what they want without the issue of sin/morality/values being imposed on them?

I know on this board the majority are quick to pounce if you dare raise the issue of something being sinful or immoral.

It's an interesting dichotomy to see they have different standards for their royals.


LaRae

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by Pranter

It's an interesting dichotomy to see they have different standards for their royals.

Of course there are different standards for royalty. Whilst they profess to normal people they're far from it. Sweden and its people have a right to object if they don't want their country represented by a porn star who posed naked with a snake. Royalty is about image, if CP wants to marry this woman personally I think he should give up his royal trappings and live the quiet unassuming life of a race car driver. I hear he's quite good at it.

[NGalitzine]

"porn star" is a bit of a reach.

[Pranter]

Why would one expect a royal to live to a different standard? They are just people like everyone else, fraught with the same weaknesses and temptations.


LaRae

[Dman]

Perhaps the Swedish people would be happy for Prince Carl Philip to marry the woman who he loves and knows much more better than everyone on the outside looking in.

The Prince of Wales was allowed to marry his mistress and a woman who was divorced and helped cause a great scandal. Crown Prince Haakon was allowed to marry a woman who a woman who already had a child and had a questionable past.

The royals are now marrying for love, despite what everyone else think of them.

[Dman]

Originally Posted by Pranter

Why would one expect a royal to live to a different standard? They are just people like everyone else, fraught with the same weaknesses and temptations.


LaRae

That's just it, the royals are imperfect humans like everybody else. They have never been perfect people because human beings aren't perfect.

[NGalitzine]

I don't actually expect their private lives to be any different than anyone elses. I do expect that when on public duty they represent their countries in a professional manner to the best of their abilities.
I certainly do not expect anyone who was not born into a royal family to have lived their entire life as if they were a potential prince or princess whose every move would be subject to public scrutiny. Baring a serious criminal record I can see few barriers to marriage. Once they marry into such a family I expect them to publically behave in the same professional manner as the family they married into.

[CrownPrincess5]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

Of course there are different standards for royalty. Whilst they profess to normal people they're far from it. Sweden and its people have a right to object if they don't want their country represented by a porn star who posed naked with a snake. Royalty is about image, if CP wants to marry this woman personally I think he should give up his royal trappings and live the quiet unassuming life of a race car driver. I hear he's quite good at it.

This is the first time I've ever agreed with you on this subject!

[CrownPrincess5]

Originally Posted by Dman

Perhaps the Swedish people would be happy for Prince Carl Philip to marry the woman who he loves and knows much more better than everyone on the outside looking in.

The Prince of Wales was allowed to marry his mistress and a woman who was divorced and helped cause a great scandal. Crown Prince Haakon was allowed to marry a woman who a woman who already had a child and had a questionable past.

The royals are now marrying for love, despite what everyone else think of them.

Camilla and Mette Marit never posed nude. It's very annoying when people compare them with Sofia. Yes, marry for love, but she should not be a princess.

[Dman]

Well, they all had an interesting past. I don't think they define themselves by what they did back then.

[Meraude]

Originally Posted by Pranter

I thought people in Sweden/Europe etc were all about people being 'free' to do what they want without the issue of sin/morality/values being imposed on them?

I know on this board the majority are quick to pounce if you dare raise the issue of something being sinful or immoral.

It's an interesting dichotomy to see they have different standards for their royals.


LaRae

If this is about my comment, I don't mention anything about morality, but that the same rules should apply to the spouses of royal children who are not the direct heir. Unless the king creates the future spouse of princess Madeleine a royal prince, nor should he create the future spouse of prince Carl Philip a royal princess. What I want is equal rules for spouses regardless of gender of the royal partner. Unless the rules are the same for all children, it would look that the king still thinks that male children are more worthy than female children, and I don't think there should be any difference between how children are treated depending of their sex. Sweden is very much about equal opportunities regardless of sex, and why should the royal family be an exception????

For those who thinks that female spouses of royal princes should automatically become royal princesses, while the male spouses of royal princesses should not get their wife's rank, do you think males are worth more??? If not, then why do you accept different rules depending on the sex of the royal partner? That it's been so historically is NOT a good answer, times have changed and so should outdated concepts of male "superiority" in elevating a female to a higher rank when it comes to marriage.

[Bosana]

Well said! That is the essence of the question. It's not complicated at all. Equality is of prime importance.

[LadyFinn]

At the cover of Svensk Damtidning:
Carl Philip tells
Sofia means so much to me
SDT1309_

[USCtrojan]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

At the cover of Svensk Damtidning:
Carl Philip tells
Sofia means so much to me
SDT1309_

All signs point to engagement announcement in July after Madeline's wedding is over.

Sweden will have a new princess in summer of 2014.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by USCtrojan

All signs point to engagement announcement in July after Madeline's wedding is over.

Sweden will have a new princess in summer of 2014.

You know this how?

[USCtrojan]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

You know this how?

I don't, this is just my speculation being that this magazine consistently says this stuff.

If this is the case as the magazine says, then why would this couple wait much longer to announce an engagement and or get married?

Unless this relationship is so far on the rocks that it is not coming back (which I don't sense) then I don't see why carl would hesitate announcing his engagement if he loves this girl and they are so in love and want to get married.

My point was simply that there is no reason why he should have to wait a year to announce an engagement and another year to get married. So, perhaps they will announce this engagement that Evernote is saying is brewing as soon as possible (July?) and marry as soon as they can ( my assumption would be that they would do as everyone else and get married in the summer).

Just my opinion.