Press Reports about Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist, Part 2: April 2012 - June 2014

[MarNoe]

Prince Carl Philip of Sweden denies he has fallen out with Princess Madeleine because of girlfriend Sofia Hellqvist - hellomagazine.com

 

[Dman]

Very nice interview. No family feud and the family has welcomed and treat Sofia very well within the family. They see a future together and look very happy and in love.

I think it's beautiful to see the real thing and actually hear from the couple in expressing their love, friendship and sense of fun. Something you can't get from the other tabloid stories.

 

[Cinderella5x]

Very nice interview. No family feud and the family has welcomed and treat Sofia very well within the family. They see a future together and look very happy and in love.

I think it's beautiful to see the real thing and actually hear from the couple in expressing their love, friendship and sense of fun. Something you can't get from the other tabloid stories.

Do you (or anyone for that matter) honestly think if there is / would be really any drama between Madeleine and Sofia or within the family with Sofia then Carl Philip and Sofia would openly said so in an interview?
I highly doubt it. They told the press what the press should hear, but that doesn't mean things are how they described. It also doesn't mean they aren't. I don't know the truth and doubt anyone besides the parties involved knows how things really are. It's just hard for me to believe they would openly admit Sofia is being treated bad and Madeleine hates her and there is a family feud over Sofia, should that be the truth.

 

[Dman]

I don't think they have any reason to lie about anything. The media is known to make up feuds within these royal families. Of course, families have their differences from time to time (all families do) but I really think all is well.

I'm more willing to believe the words that's coming out of Carl Philip & Sofia's mouths than the tabloid fodder.

 

[Cinderella5x]

I don't think they have any reason to lie about anything. The media is known to make up feuds within these royal families. Of course, families have their differences from time to time (all families do) but I really think all is well.

I'm more willing to believe the words that's coming out of Carl Philip & Sofia's mouths than the tabloid fodder.

You misunderstood my post. What I meant was: do you think IF there is / would be, in fact, any type of feud going on within the family because of Sofia, would Carl Philip and Sofia openly said so in an interview?

Please note, I am NOT saying there is, I am NOT saying they lied. I am simply asking if the facts would be how the press describes them not how Carl Philip and Sofia presents them does anyone think Carl Philip and Sofia would state so?

I, for one, hardly doubt they would. But I may be wrong, that's why I was curious as to what others think.

 

[Kit]

I think Sofia is"in" and we will have another Swedish wedding within the next two years.

 

[USCtrojan]

You misunderstood my post. What I meant was: do you think IF there is / would be, in fact, any type of feud going on within the family because of Sofia, would Carl Philip and Sofia openly said so in an interview?

Please note, I am NOT saying there is, I am NOT saying they lied. I am simply asking if the facts would be how the press describes them not how Carl Philip and Sofia presents them does anyone think Carl Philip and Sofia would state so?

I, for one, hardly doubt they would. But I may be wrong, that's why I was curious as to what others think.

It would not be in their best interest to state a fact like that. IF IN FACT the family does not approve of her.

Perhaps they have finally warmed up -but, it would really set up a firestorm if they openly stated something like that, and if she and Carl Philip wished for her to become a princess or truly be accepted by the family or the people as his bride -that might be kept to themselves. MY OPINION is that admitting a fact like thatIF IT IS OR IS NOT true would not be in their best interest. I agree with you on this one!

 

[LadyFinn]

Carl Philip and Sofia made this interview and gave it to Aftonbladet, because Expressen wrote that there is a row between Carl Philip and Madeleine about Sofia. I think that this is a PR-move, especially because Madeleine wished so overwhelmingly success to "her dearest brother and Sofia" at StafettVasan and even linked this interview to her Facebook. It is very odd that a member of the royal family quotes an interview at a tabloid, since the royals also in Sweden have many times complained about the articles in tabloids.
And I don't like that the girlfriend of a royal gives interviews about the members of the royal family before the possible engagement.

 

[Marengo]

Bloody Ava! How many interviews, quotes, facebook comments and whatnot do they want to give to the yellow press? I agree LadyFinn, it a very curious media strategy. I can't recall ANY other royal family doing such things, apart from Marie Christine of Belgium, who was estranged from her family & wanted her revenge.

I am not sure how Bertil Tennert ever convinced the royal family that this is a wise media strategy, but IMHO the sooner he is sacked the better!

With this hasty, reactive behavior they give these gossip magazines too much importance. The old strategies of 'no comment' or 'the royal family doesn't recognize themselves in these discriptions' are more than sufficient. Why the royals themselves actually talk with these people is beyond me too.

 

[Cinderella5x]

Bloody Ava! How many interviews, quotes, facebook comments and whatnot do they want to give to the yellow press? I agree LadyFinn, it a very curious media strategy. I can't recall ANY other royal family doing such things, apart from Marie-Christine of Belgium, who was estranged from her family.

I am not sure how Bertil Tennert ever convinced the royal family that this is a wise media strategy, but IMHO the sooner he is sacked the better!

That's why I started wondering... I don't know how it really is, but it starts looking like they are pushing the idea of Sofia being accepted within the family and Madeleine almost sisterly loving her a bit too hard in my opinion. If there is no feud and if they really do not care about what the tabloids think, why another interview, over sweetened with sugar coat?

 

[Dman]

It may be that they just want to set things straight in their own way.

I think the tabs have been unfair to Sofia and the picture they paint of the family not liking her. I applaud the couple for standing up and letting everyone know that the tabloid stories are rubbish and everything is fine.

 

[SLV]

That's why I started wondering... I don't know how it really is, but it starts looking like they are pushing the idea of Sofia being accepted within the family and Madeleine almost sisterly loving her a bit too hard in my opinion. If there is no feud and if they really do not care about what the tabloids think, why another interview, over sweetened with sugar coat?

True, but on the other hand I can imagine the frustration of reading all the bad things about yourself and not being able/allowed to say something.

 

[Dman]

True, but on the other hand I can imagine the frustration of reading all the bad things about yourself and not being able/allowed to say something.

I think that is hard. I think it may even upset Carl Philip that his girlfriend is treated badly in the press and the comments about her can be even worse.

I say, good for them for at least being frank and telling the media their truth.

 

[julliette]

You misunderstood my post. What I meant was: do you think IF there is / would be, in fact, any type of feud going on within the family because of Sofia, would Carl Philip and Sofia openly said so in an interview?

Please note, I am NOT saying there is, I am NOT saying they lied. I am simply asking if the facts would be how the press describes them not how Carl Philip and Sofia presents them does anyone think Carl Philip and Sofia would state so?

I, for one, hardly doubt they would. But I may be wrong, that's why I was curious as to what others think.

I completely agree with you. Carl Phillip and Sofia's words mean nothing to me. They say everything is ok but they would never say otherwise.

All of this is smelling to PR to make Sofia look good, and play the happy family who had accepted her so much, and she's so IN into the family, etc, etc. They have been playing this strategy for a long time and I always found it a bit ridiculous.

Why a royal girlfriend gives interviews about the royals and like if she is oficially part of the family is something I don't understand. I prefer that strategy applied by many RF: until an engagement is announced, it's like if she doesn't exist. She never talks, the palace never issues statements about her, etc, etc. Keeping a certain distance between the RF and the girlfriend.

Dman said:

I applaud the couple for standing up and letting everyone know that the tabloid stories are rubbish and everything is fine

and

I say, good for them for at least being frank and telling the media their truth.

But do we know what the truth is? No, I think that's the point cinderella5x was making.

 

[Marengo]

True, but on the other hand I can imagine the frustration of reading all the bad things about yourself and not being able/allowed to say something.

Considering that Sofia is a soft porn model, whose only goal in life seems -to me- to become famous and marry rich, I think the Swedish press has actually been extremely nice to her. All these gossip stories make Sofia look like the poor victim and put Princess Madelaine in a bad light. Why the Swedish press choses this strategy is a mystery to me though.

 

[Artemisia]

I daresay the media's attitude is due to the fact Sofia is pure gold for them. Should she marry Carl Philip, they'll have a never-ending supply of potentially scandalous stories about a member of the Royal Family. As it is, Victoria and Daniel are "boring" (not controversial), Madeleine will probably move to the United States after marriage, so all their hope is with Carl Philip and his future wife.

 

[Dman]

No doubt the tabs will try to rub Sofia's pictures in her face once again, IF, she and Carl Philip get engaged but I don't think Sofia allows that kind of stuff define who she is. Many other people may only see her as a girl who once posed nude with a snake but I think it's obvious Carl Philip see who she really is because he knows her more personally.

I think it's great that Carl Philip & Sofia enjoy certain activites together and like to laugh and tease one another. I don't understand the need to rain on their happy parade.

 

[USCtrojan]

Considering that Sofia is a soft porn model, whose only goal in life seems -to me- to become famous and marry rich, I think the Swedish press has actually been extremely nice to her. All these gossip stories make Sofia look like the poor victim and put Princess Madelaine in a bad light. Why the Swedish press choses this strategy is a mystery to me though.

You could not have said it better!

 

[NGalitzine]

Considering that Sofia is a soft porn model, whose only goal in life seems -to me- to become famous and marry rich, I think the Swedish press has actually been extremely nice to her. All these gossip stories make Sofia look like the poor victim and put Princess Madelaine in a bad light. Why the Swedish press choses this strategy is a mystery to me though.

Surely if she wanted to marry for money Sweden has better options than a Bernadotte. They are not exactly rolling in euros. Perhaps an NHL hockey player would have been a better choice if that was her concern and from the way people go on about her snake pics and the reality show she already seems to have had her own level of fame prior to CP.

 

[LadyFinn]

Surely if she wanted to marry for money Sweden has better options than a Bernadotte. They are not exactly rolling in euros. Perhaps an NHL hockey player would have been a better choice if that was her concern and from the way people go on about her snake pics and the reality show she already seems to have had her own level of fame prior to CP.

Yes, she could have a richer husband than Carl Philip in an NHL-player. But not so much publicity and life in the limelight, if the NHL-player wants to live a very private life after his career. With a prince she can live her whole life in the limelight, she can use tiaras and other royal family jewellery and gets to meet other royal families in the world.

 

[NGalitzine]

Yes, she could have a richer husband than Carl Philip in an NHL-player. But not so much publicity and life in the limelight, if the NHL-player wants to live a very private life after his career. With a prince she can live her whole life in the limelight, she can use tiaras and other royal family jewellery and gets to meet other royal families in the world.

Or perhaps it as simple as two people met and fell in love.

If she was as much a schemer as some suggest surely CP and his family would have detected it after all this time. It is hard to keep up that kind of an act for long periods of time.

 

[HRHHermione]

Or perhaps it as simple as two people met and fell in love.

If she was as much a schemer as some suggest surely CP and his family would have detected it after all this time. It is hard to keep up that kind of an act for long periods of time.

Yup. You would think the Royal family would be pretty used to filtering out users and sycophants and that Sofia wouldn't have lasted this long if that was what she was like in person.

 

[USCtrojan]

Or perhaps it as simple as two people met and fell in love.

If she was as much a schemer as some suggest surely CP and his family would have detected it after all this time. It is hard to keep up that kind of an act for long periods of time.

Not necessarily! People cam pull the wool over ones eyes easily and you would never know!

 

[Dman]

The sky isn't going to fall down or world end if Carl Philip decide to marry Sofia. It didn't happen when Charles married Camilla nor when Haakon married Mette-Marit. These royals now fall in love and marry who they think is best for them not what other people think is best for them.

 

[Anna Catherine]

The sky isn't going to fall down or world end if Carl Philip decide to marry Sofia. It didn't happen when Charles married Camilla nor when Haakon married Mette-Marit. These royals now fall in love and marry who they think is best for them not what other people think is best for them.

Thank you. I think people forget this so often. Honestly, I've been watching this thread for a whole and as an observer, I have observed that a lot of people seem to be making snap decisions, as usual, about a person they know nothing about save what they read in papers. People have these ridiculously high expectations they would never hold themselves to even I they were royals or their significant others. I think we should give her the benefit of doubt and say she made bad decisions in the past like anyone and just move on to today which involves her dating a prince. No one has any idea whether or not she is tricking Carl Philip and no reason to believe so other than bias newspapers who only want to stir up mess and the inventions posters have made with in their minds. I think it is beyond time to move past this. It happens with every royal girlfriend or boyfriend and its only amplified when they have an...interesting past...

 

[LadyFinn]

Sofia's Project Playground had it's annual charity dinner and auction in Borås yesterday evening.
Sofia and the rest of PP ready for dinner, photo from PP Twitter
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BE2uJvRCEAALKdG.jpg:large
Sofia with comedian Hasse Brontén, who worked as an auctioneer. They raised over one million SEK during the evening. Photo from Brontén's Instagram.
Photo by hassebronten • Instagram

 

[Meraude]

The sky isn't going to fall down or world end if Carl Philip decide to marry Sofia. It didn't happen when Charles married Camilla nor when Haakon married Mette-Marit. These royals now fall in love and marry who they think is best for them not what other people think is best for them.

It would be one thing if Carl Philip was as hard-working as a royal as Charles and Haakon are, unfortunately he seems to be more into car racing than being a royal. The negative image of Carl Philip here in Sweden is reflected in his choice of Sofia as his partner, and their efforts to push her as a "perfect" spouse down the throats of the Swedish people. I say, let them get married and live happy ever after, but not as HRH:s, if it's about true love and wanting to live together as husband and wife, why shouldn't they be as happy as plain Mr. and Mrs. Bernadotte? It's not as if Carl Philip would loose his personal fortune and the estate he inherited and will inherit, but he would be liberated from the pressure of being a prince and be able to pursue his hobbies the way he likes.

 

[LadyFinn]

It would be one thing if Carl Philip was as hard-working as a royal as Charles and Haakon are, unfortunately he seems to be more into car racing than being a royal. The negative image of Carl Philip here in Sweden is reflected in his choice of Sofia as his partner, and their efforts to push her as a "perfect" spouse down the throats of the Swedish people. I say, let them get married and live happy ever after, but not as HRH:s, just as plain Mr. and Mrs. Bernadotte.

My thoughts exactly. Of course Carl Philip deserves to be happy and if they love each other and Sofia is the one who makes Carl Philip happy, they should get married. And after that be Mr. and Mrs. Bernadotte.

 

[AristoCat]

There are and have to be limits; Camilla got the ring only after a pretty bad mess and Charles/Camilla took their time and didn't force the Brits to like this. The PR was about how Charles was required to marry any aristocrat or royal, he didn't end up being able to marry Camilla who wasn't posh enough.

The sky isn't going to fall down or world end if Carl Philip decide to marry Sofia. It didn't happen when Charles married Camilla nor when Haakon married Mette-Marit. These royals now fall in love and marry who they think is best for them not what other people think is best for them.

The difference is that Charles made a huge amount of concessions and Camilla is known as Duchess of Cornwall and not as Princess of Wales. Camilla was also made to accept that she would not be crowned Queen of England and would remain HRH Princess Consort. So really, Camilla is not known as Princess of Wales and she won't get crowned (if she is smart).

Second, Sofia if she marries in and gets that title will end up being part of official delegations and expected to receive heads of state and be expected to make trips abroad while mastering etiquette and making intelligent conversation. Etiquette and conversation are a minimum requirement.

CP isn't just asking the public to accept her, but demanding that the public and RF accept and like her. CP isn't admitting that she is disliked and expects that sort of thing (and expect Sofia to accept it), he is apparently demanding that the rest of the RF not just accept her, but LIKE her as well. I mean, that is asking for too much realistically.

 

[miche]

Unless the British Parliament change the law, Camilla will be crown Queen. The Princess Consort stuff is just BS.

Camilla is the current Princess of Wales, she's going by the Duchess of Cornwall b/c of the last and very popular Princess of Wales