Press Reports about Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist, Part 1: Jan. 2010 - April 2012


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Of course you cannot force somebody to like someone else but you can force somebody to accept some facts, move on and get along. Nobody has to be best friends, being polite when meeting is good enough. Just be professional, this is what the SRF is asking from Madeleine (if the rumours are true at all) and with regard to the big picture, the SRF representing Sweden, its ok to do so.
 
Duke of Marmalade said:
Of course you cannot force somebody to like someone else but you can force somebody to accept some facts, move on and get along. Nobody has to be best friends, being polite when meeting is good enough. Just be professional, this is what the SRF is asking from Madeleine (if the rumours are true at all) and with regard to the big picture, the SRF representing Sweden, its ok to do so.
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If the rumours about Madeleine's strong dislike for Sofia is true, a forced acceptance of her might mean that Madeleine will rush into a marriage and stay in the U.S.A., and stop coming to Sweden for representation as Sweden wouldn't be her home-country any more.
 
I am by no means a Sofia supporter but its not up to Madeleine to approve or disapprove of her brother's partner - all a sibling can do is put up with it and respect the decision.
It would be up to the King (and Queen) to approve or disapprove with respect to the future of the institution and its representatives.

But to me it seems that this family has been - in contrast to the public image - dysfunctional for many years and since various scandals have come to light, they have become tired to holding up the facade.
 
Duke of Marmalade said:
But to me it seems that this family has been - in contrast to the public image - dysfunctional for many years and since various scandals have come to light, they have become tired to holding up the facade.
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I think you are not that far from truth with this. It's actually surprising that they were able to hold up the facade for that long.

As for Sofia, I think she and CP are a done deal for some time and it's just about the right timing of the engagement announcement. It won't come until Victoria's baby is born, but they might drop the bomb before the christening next year. That gives them time to whitewash Sofia's past a bit more, Svensk Damtidning is already working on that and if the rumors of SRF stopping a sale of another series of soft porn photos are true, then they are conscientiously working on that too. As for Madeleine, she was just probably told to do what she is supposed to do, pretend that everything is good. What she really things is her problem, on the outside they are one big happy family, Sofia included. I don't think we'll see her in Sweden much in the future, but that won't make any difference to the current state.

I'm really looking forward to how Sweden will handle this possible engagement and marriage, for me personally Sofia is moving the imaginary bar set for royal girlfriends/wife's several level's down.
 
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Maybe he's talking because he was told to talk?
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If Madeleine thought the image of a 29-year-old woman being told to do something by her mother was something he needed to say her behalf, then she lacks the capacity to serve as a representative of Sweden and I then question her intelligence as well...
 
Ternert gets his orders from the King and it seems to me that King and Queen have decided that Sofia is the one for CP and are now on a PR roll to get away with the Swedish public.

To mention Madeleine in all this is stupid and so easy to expose as a poor PR strategy (happy family image, we all like her and so should you, forget about the past etc), but hey, this is what we are used to get from the SRF, poor PR strategies, remember, Terner sat next to the King when he was asked to define "stripper" and the King duly searched for an answer, the Head of State of Sweden, seriously :eek::yuk:
 
Totally agree, they had very bad PR stategies,there are other Royal families in Europe who handle scandals,rumours and all kind of difficulties better and more elegant.The interview with the king was done so badly that I wish he hadn´t said a single word....if it wasn´t for Queen Silvia,CP Victoria&Daniel,Sweden would have probably abolished monarchy already....
I wouldn´t mind if Sofia marries her prince and do whatever she likes if she doesn´t receive the princess title...it would be unfair to all the decent,disciplined,intelligent,educated princesses who had to work hard to be accepted by the public...
 
I agree with on that last bit, it would be unfair to all those with decent backgrounds to give her a title. And not just no princess/duchess title, this may sound harsh but no public function either, no tax funding for her, no Nobel appearances, no state representation, if she wishes to continue doing charity work, it should be as a private citizen and not sponsored as a working member of the family. With the internet it's impossible to really white wash her history, a journalists at any time can dig it back up. If the case was someone like her marrying a politician then things would be different because the spouse doesn't (usually) have a role, the position is not permit and the public gets to express their opinion be it approval or disapproval, but with royalty its more permanent.
 
"The prince spends all his time with Sofia - Carl Philip ignores his school ratings. He is alling behind at school more and more"
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SvenskDam (paper version) writes about Carl Philip´s and Sofia´s holiday of love in Thailand a few weeks ago. They arrived to Thailand at five o´clock in the morning, and were welcomed by a person from the embassy.
After they had returned home, Sofia was seen with her friend Rebecca Simonsson at restaurant Escalier last Friday. They ate oysters, and drank RedBull energy drink. Sofia was also using her phone, so SvenskDam thinks that maybe she was missing her prince...

Carl Philip von Schweden: Seine Sofia will unbedingt seriös sein! - BUNTE
 
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How Sofia is drilled to be a princess
Sofia Hellqvist, 26, could be our next princess.
From ast spring glamour model from the valley has been living with Prince Carl Philip and now she's turning into Sweden symbol.
Work has already started - Sofia goes prinsesschool.
Så ska Sofia drillas till prinsessa
 
LadyFinn said:
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How Sofia is drilled to be a princess
Sofia Hellqvist, 26, could be our next princess.
From ast spring glamour model from the valley has been living with Prince Carl Philip and now she's turning into Sweden symbol.
Work has already started - Sofia goes prinsesschool.
Så ska Sofia drillas till prinsessa
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And thus begins the end of the Swedish monarchy :whistle:
 
Sofia is certainly as attractive as Carl Philip is handsome. The combination could just make them one of the most photographed couples in Europe and be an additional boost that could only do the Swedish monarchy good. Sofia seems lovely and if she has the makings of a successful Princess, well then good for her. Carl Philip certainly seems very proud of her.
 
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Its only adding to the sentiment that royals become more and more like celebrities with zero "power" apart from supporting the media industry by selling a fake fairy tale. No problem so far but although people pay to see zoo animals, I doubt people will continue to pay for the royal zoo animals to look at, with little difference to the celebrities who are out there for free.

CP & Sofia are the best example lately, and certainly not the last with new generations to come, that the idea of a royal family with regard to serving the country is dead. Victoria being popular or not, I cant see them lasting another century since there is no real purpose apart from entertainment and I dont think that in the long run people will want or, more importantly, will be able to pay for a lavish livestyle in return for nice pictures.

My opinion of Sofia and her "qualifications" is very low, but then my opinion of CP and his "qualifications" is equally low. The spoilt good looking car racer and the attention seeking nude model - I guess they deserve each other.
 
I have to agree with a lot of what you say Duke of Marmelade. Royal families today do contribute very little to society excepting for glamor, wearing tiaras and cutting ribbons which does give the press something to photograph and write columns about. There is also the tourist aspect where people do visit certain countries solely because of the present monarchy. However, one does wonder if the cost of their lavish lifestyle does warrant what society actually gets back in return. Sofia and Carl Philip may not be at the height of successful professionals but they certainly can bring the glamor aspect to the table which is basically all the public gets from royalty these days. I think a lot of people do like to see royalty as role models and upstanding citizens but many of them are anything but. Sofia may be considered to be unsuitable now but look at the questionable lady company Princes like Andrew and Harry have kept let alone all the scandal in monarchies like the BRF. Existing protocol was even bent to accomodate Charles and Camilla. Just because royals cut ribbons I think they still feel the right to live their lives in a way they choose. If the public is unhappy about it, well tough. Will the public ever question the "value for money" aspect, well that remains to be seen.
 
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I think the royal aids are not doing a good job. They should first focus on CP and try to improve his profile . Maybe put him on the board of a musueum (I suppose he has got artistic interests) and make him work there form 9 to 5 at least twice a week. He sould as well be on the board of a foundation. How can somebody believe his wisdom in his choices if he is not himself taken seriously? And Sofia should also find other activities besides her charity work. Maybe finding a jobwould help. Only cosmetic changes won't help.
 
LadyFinn said:
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How Sofia is drilled to be a princess
Sofia Hellqvist, 26, could be our next princess.
From ast spring glamour model from the valley has been living with Prince Carl Philip and now she's turning into Sweden symbol.
Work has already started - Sofia goes prinsesschool.
Så ska Sofia drillas till prinsessa
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symbol of what??
end of Swedish monarchy??
 
If she becomes the most photographed princess it will be for all the wrong reasons. All this "glamor model" stuff is ridiculous and driving me nuts! I'm not a conservative person but since when is posing with a snake covering your breast, naked in front of a mirror, or naked in heals covering your lower privates considered glamor? The longer this goes on the more I'm convinced if he does marry her he should have to give up his title and place in line because it really is threat to the monarchy. Any unpublished photos of her, as soon as they become in engaged the price would skyrocket. No matter now nice or pretty she is, it won't erase those photos. I'm really disappointed in him, hes 32 and what has he done so far? Sure he has designed a few things, but most of his time is spent racing cars for fun, he still hasn't graduated from his agriculture college studies has he?
 
Very pretty she is, and she can change.
 
TBH, I think the King refusing to give permission to the marriage will hurt the Swedish monarchy more than allowing the marriage. I imagine the press will have a field day with the king being all strict here, after last years scandal with the singer.

If there will be a wedding, the best we can hope for is that the couple will be happy with a role out of the spotlights. But somehow that doesn't seem to be in line with Sofia's past ambitions.
 
I guess we'll see how this plays out. I definitely think they'll wait until Victoria's child is born if they do get engaged.
 
I don't see how refusing to give permission could be any worse then giving them the permission. If it did create a scandal it will be a mock one drummed by gossip magazines to sell more papers. I hate being so critical of someone I don't know, but I haven't seen any evidence of change, her trip to Africa was after she had already meet the prince (while he was still with Emma), and now all the charity that shes been doing are things that involve dressing up and cameras, or putting her name on things like lip gloss and yoga clothes. Going from that type of modeling to living with and off of as I don't think she is employed isn't a change it's a shift.

It would horribly unfair to use the birth of a couples first child publics goodwill as a cover to get hitched.
 
Tilla said:
Very pretty she is, and she can change.
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I do agree here. Give the girl a chance. She may just end up doing a good job and rise up to be a successful princess. It would be different is she was still posing nude after an official engagement. In any case, Prince Carl Philip's association with her would not be the first scandal to hit a royal house.
 
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Daisiesforever said:
I do agree here. Give the girl a chance. She may just end up doing a good job and rise up to be a successful princess. It would be different is she was still posing nude after an official engagement. In any case, Prince Carl Philip's association with her would not be the first scandal to hit a royal house.
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Sorry to be a non believer in people, but how many people do actually change, intrinsically, not nice behaviour on the outside untill the storm passes?
I tend to go with those who believe that any visable change is just outward, to make people think more positively, like PR change, not more.
 
For good, or for bad, our past actions always impact on how people think of us. I think this is especially true in Sofia's case. Whether or not she becomes Carl Philip's wife, regardless of what good deeds she might perform, or how impeccably she might behave from here on in, she cannot change her past and whether we like it or not, people will judge her for it. Whilst in my personal opinion, someone with Sofia's past is not an ideal candidate for becoming a princess (and that is only my opinion, I respect that the opinions of others may be different) it seems to me that it will come down to whether or not the Swedish Royal Family and the people of Sweden are willing to accept her in that role. I don't pretend to know Sofia or how her mind works, but I would think that the weight of her past must be a heavy cross for her to bear. Whether or not she regrets her past I do not know, but she cannot change it. It remains to be seen whether it will cost her her relationship with Carl Philip.
 
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