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Old 05-06-2011, 02:48 PM
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Those pictures of Sofia remind me of a comment made about Chelsy Davy, that she always looks like she needs a good scrubbing. Sofia really needs a good scrubbing. But then again, even though CP is very handsome, his hair looks quite greasy, like he needs a hair washing, so maybe they were meant to be.
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Old 05-06-2011, 04:50 PM
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i dont know if this has been posted. Its Project Playground. Its first time i have heard Sofia speak

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Old 05-07-2011, 02:47 PM
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Photos of Carl Philip and Sofia at Jyllandsringen a couple of weeks ago.
Carl Philip og Sofia til motorløb i Jylland - Billed-Bladet Danmark - Picasa-verkkoalbumit
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Old 05-08-2011, 02:29 PM
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Don´t condemn Sofia

As usual, no one counts, studies, sports and cultural activities. In spring 2007 the Prince studied design at the renowned design school Rhode Island School of Design in the USA. The school announced a competition to create the best graphic design of the Martha's Vineyard Museum in Rhode Island. Prince won the competition in spring 2008 with a proposal that he submitted in 2009 pseudonym.Från studying HRH Prince Carl Philip of Sweden's University of Agricultural Sciences Alnarp. The studies in Alnarp continues in spring 2011.

All that condemns Sofia did not learn nothing from history. HRH Crown Princess Mette-Marit of Norway was completely mobbed by his marriage to Crown Prince of Norway by many sharp pencils here at TRF. Equally bad was it with His Royal Highness Prince Daniel. He was considered by many not as good as Jonas Bergström. And I could take many more examples from other royal families, but I would only get us to think of something before we judge too hard. In official contexts, it is still the case that HRH Carl Philip has no relation. Wait until any official notification.
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Old 05-08-2011, 03:05 PM
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Sofia is in a lose-lose situation. She will never get rid of the always present photographic reminders of her naked/borderline erotic past (unlike MM) und CP is too unimportant in the Swedish monarchy for his wife to make any impact re duties (unlike MM). CP hardly works, what can we expect from his wife? Sofia would only benefit in terms of money or title without any opportunity to prove herself, even if she wanted to. She'll be running the gauntlet in Swedish upper circles and media for the rest of her life if getting married to CP.
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:00 AM
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Discussion of hypotheses

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Sofia is in a lose-lose situation. She will never get rid of the always present photographic reminders of her naked/borderline erotic past (unlike MM) und CP is too unimportant in the Swedish monarchy for his wife to make any impact re duties (unlike MM). CP hardly works, what can we expect from his wife? Sofia would only benefit in terms of money or title without any opportunity to prove herself, even if she wanted to. She'll be running the gauntlet in Swedish upper circles and media for the rest of her life if getting married to CP.

Princess Madeleine's boyfriend, Jonas Bergström, was raised to the skies here at TRF before it became known that he had a love affair at the side of life with the princess, and was unfaithful. Mr Daniel Westling was very severely criticized by a large number of members on the TRF, until their wedding taken place and Prince Daniel was making his first public appearance. And suddenly everyone was sharp tongues suddenly soft and positive in the comments.

Now it just so happens that we are discussing hypotheses when we talk about Prince Carl Philip and Sophia. There is no officially announced to discuss and some seem to have the same views as the gossip columns: We create our own headlines by speculating! It is an unfortunate attitude, in my opinion.
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:34 AM
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well.. the thread is about Prince Philip and this Sofia Hellqvist. From my understanding.. she is a former stripper ??? is that right?
No, but it is close to the truth.
She isn't wan't a stripper, but she have done at least one set of professional nude/semi-nude pictures. For a magazine slightly more taestfull than Playboy (iirc they show alot od skin and bare breast but not the ...).
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:37 AM
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Last Thursday Carl Philip and Sofia attended Postkodletteriet´s gala event at the Royal Opera. Among speakers was ex-president Bill Clinton.
WEBB-TV: Carl Philips och Sofias hemliga galakväll på Operan | Svensk Damtidning
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Old 05-26-2011, 04:47 AM
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How was Daniel criticized before his marriage?I only known him when I heard of his wedding
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:39 AM
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How was Daniel criticized before his marriage?I only known him when I heard of his wedding
People criticized him for not being educated enough and some looked down on his career. Pure snobbishness, really. Can't really imagine the reaction if he had posed naked though.
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Old 05-26-2011, 08:28 AM
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People criticized him for not being educated enough and some looked down on his career. Pure snobbishness, really. Can't really imagine the reaction if he had posed naked though.

Daniel was labelled too simple for the SRF as the fitness trainer he started out as (he and Victoria met when she was looking for a personal trainer). But he managed to improve direction serious business by owning his own studio and most of all, he was never a headline grabber, kept his head down. Very different from Sofia who screams LOOK AT ME whatever she has done so far and is still doing.
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Old 05-26-2011, 09:34 AM
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I think we can definitely look at the situation with Jonas and Daniel and in comparison on how they were intially viewed, there is definitely a bit of snobbishness and class bias. And look who turned out to be the better catch...the normal middle class boy! Jonas might be a nice guy but he wasn't a good fiance and potential husband (if the allegations are true).

The issue with Sofia though IMO has nothing to do with class but as previously stated her past. These pictures will ALWAYS be out there. She could discover a cure for AIDS and it will be former Nude model, scientist Sofia discovered a cure for AIDS. It is what is is and I dont understand why people don't get that. We go back and forth about her past and not knowing any better and she was young, well, whatever.
Sorry, that only goes so far.

IMO this should be example to the the young, many who take compromising shots and do things and dont think of the consequences. In this internet age, things will follow you FOREVER. What if Sofia wasn't dating a Prince, and was looking for a career in law, finances, etc., and her future employers saw this. What do you think they would do? Do you think they would take some of her actions as a reflection of her character....would you hire someone like that?

Again, Sofia might be a really nice girl but such a past is not a good image for the Swedish monarchy IMO.
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Old 05-26-2011, 09:38 AM
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What if Sofia wasn't dating a Prince, and was looking for a career in law, finances, etc., and her future employers saw this. What do you think they would do? Do you think they would take some of her actions as a reflection of her character....would you hire someone like that?
Not only not hire somebody like that but there is also a high possibility of getting fired when such pictures emerge from a private facebook account.
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Old 05-26-2011, 09:41 AM
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You are so right.

Recently in the States, a lot of teachers have been let go when information from their past has been revealed. Not saying its right but people need to think about their actions. Is this something I will regret later on, will it follow me. Even if she didn't know about the possiblity of dating Carl Phillip, do you want your kids to see this stuff?

In my day (I am 40) the internet wasn't what it is now, so you might have done something in your past that you was questionable, but it took a lot to get your hands on it. Now, someone can know anything and everythign about in you in seconds. And whats worst, it can not be true. You can write a lie on the internet and its out there. Not the same with pictures (although people can forge them).

And thats my point with the pictures, and being a reality show contestant. Because lets face it, most people go on reality shows to be famous, and they aren't boring because who would watch boring people
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Zonk your post is so succinctly stated that I am a little jealous I didn't type it myself.

What if she was trying for a career at a prestigious law firm, representing..oh I don't know...the WHITE HOUSE or something??

Ms Hellqvist would be stone cold out of luck with soft porn photos in her past. And make no mistake...that is exactly what they are.

It's not a matter of "judging" her...I am not saying she is a bad person. But like you stated a lot of people make choices and then do not want to face the consequences for them...and there are consequences for every important decision you make in life.

There are no do overs. There are rarely any second chances. You learn, you pick yourself up and try to do better in the future.

I don't think I am being overly dramatic when I say that Hellqvist is poison to the image of the SRF, and what surprises me is that Prince C-P is not intelligent enough, or is too self-absorbed, to realize this.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:38 AM
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Carl Philip and Sofia have moved to their new home, a five bedroom apartment in an exclusive villa on the island of Djurgården. A few days ago Aftonbladet met the couple outside the house and Sofia told how well they thrive.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:45 AM
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Zonk your post is so succinctly stated that I am a little jealous I didn't type it myself.

What if she was trying for a career at a prestigious law firm, representing..oh I don't know...the WHITE HOUSE or something??

Ms Hellqvist would be stone cold out of luck with soft porn photos in her past. And make no mistake...that is exactly what they are.

It's not a matter of "judging" her...I am not saying she is a bad person. But like you stated a lot of people make choices and then do not want to face the consequences for them...and there are consequences for every important decision you make in life.

There are no do overs. There are rarely any second chances. You learn, you pick yourself up and try to do better in the future.

I don't think I am being overly dramatic when I say that Hellqvist is poison to the image of the SRF, and what surprises me is that Prince C-P is not intelligent enough, or is too self-absorbed, to realize this.
Totally agree,first of all,many men and not only royal ones are primarily attracted by physical(sexual) appereances and instincts,if that 's his choice,let it be.Basically,the most important is that he won't regret his choice of partner in the future
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Is it known if the King and/or Queen have met Sofia? How about Carl Philip's sisters?

Thank you in advance.
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My hunch is that the King and Queen are trying to wait this thing out, and hope he gets tired of this girl.

But I think Carl-Philip is going to try to take a page out of his Uncle Bertil and sister Victoria's book and hunker down...and "fight for true love". I think he couldn't care less about how his parents or sisters feel(I think I read that Madeleine is still friends with his ex-girlfriend Emma and avoids Sofia)

I don't have a good feeling about the outcome of this at all.

BTW...MoonShadow, we have similar names!
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Thank you Moonmaiden23. Actually I did notice our names a while back!
I can't imagine Carl Philip marrying Sofia, then again you never know.......
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