Press Reports about Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist, Part 1: Jan. 2010 - April 2012


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I'm no fan of Sofia's, but to suggest that she can "overcome" her past in the manner of the Monagasque princesses isn't much of a show of support. Caroline, IMO, would be a vastly different person if Stefano had not met an early and untimely death, but her expressions & demeanor at her brother's wedding don't indicate that everything is moonlight and roses in her world. Don't forget the now "second lady of the land" spread her legs for her supposed friend's husband, got pregnant, caused the official breakup of that marriage, married him herself, got to babysit his drunken, violent, boorish behavior for several years, then gets to live in this empty marriage while he perpetually cheats on her with younger women. Stephanie has a long string of failed marriages/relationships, children out of wedlock, usually looks lost/desperate/depressed, and thanks to too much sun (and perhaps some dabbling in chemicals IMO) looks twice her age. While they may sometimes be very nice people and while they may do very important charitable works, other than financially, they aren't "doing well" at all IMO.

In fact, these are exactly the types of women with whom I would expect Sofia to be enamored. Actually, tweeting about dating CP and funneling charity money into her personal bank account (unforgivable IMO) aside, since the relationship with CP started Sofia has behaved with more dignity than either of these two women. I don't know how you did it, blauerengel, but you actually have me defending Sofia....thanks...I think.;)

I don´t read so much gossip,so I don´t know that much about the princesses lives,I usually get myself "updated" when I´m at the hairdresser- because I think these glossy papers are a waste of money so I can´t keep up with all the rumours and stories:lol: I didn´t know that they used charity money for themselves:eek: That´s really one of the most terrible things you can do,how can you trust ppl who use other ppls sympathy and compassion for their own financial benefit? This makes everyone suspicious of NGOs and their motives-which means that less money is donated to the needy...OK,back to the topic: I don´t know Sofia,I don´t know if she´s a good person or not but if he has chosen her they should be together...and after all,what´s so terrible about her modeling past,she´s looking good and feels comfortable with her body so why not show it with confidence?After all we´ve already seen pictures of Wladimir Putin and Nicholas Sarkozy shirtless- and I rather like to see a young, beautiful woman in bikini than one of those politicians in the newspaper *lol*
 
Sofia Hellqvist has visited the Stockholm Pilates Center on the 16th August, she took some clothes of Drop of Mindfulness there. They discussed about a co-operation in the future.
Stockholm Pilates Center - Blogg: Sofia Hellqvist och Drop Of Mindfulness

Is this supposed to be interesting news? I find it funny how she's always ready for any photo op and smiling straight into the cameras when photographers are around, while the royals pay no attention to photographers.

Carl Philip has denied the information given about why he and Sofia didn´t attend the wedding. The informationschef of the court Bertil Ternert told to SvenskDam:
- Prince Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist were invited to the wedding. They told the couple a few weeks before that, unfortunately, they can´t attend. It had nothing to do with that Sofia did not want to meet Emma Pernald, prince´s former girlfriend. The reason was different.
And there is no rift between Sofia and Emma, according to Ternert.
- They have a good relationship.

Carl Philip dementerar att det är en fnurra på tråden | Svensk Damtidning
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Oh please! We know darn well that the reason CP and Sofia didn't go is because Emma was going to be there. Do you really think that Emma - who was with CP for an entire decade - wants to hang around this new girl? Anyone being honest with themselves knows that this would not be a comfortable situation.
 
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Oh please! We know darn well that the reason CP and Sofia didn't go is because Emma was going to be there. Do you really think that Emma - who was with CP for an entire decade - wants to hang around this new girl? Anyone being honest with themselves knows that this would not be a comfortable situation.

Thats what I was saying:)
You have to be honest with yourself to admit something like that.
 
Well,she´s been working as a model so of course she´s not camera-shy ;-)
Other people feel uncomfortable when they are surrounded by photographers or just don´t care about it but Sofia is probably trying to leave a good impression.

on Sofia Hellqvist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I read that ->Between September and October 2009, Hellqvist travelled to Ghana and did volunteer work, helping to build a women's center.
This is good work,it shows her commitment to help other people who are not that fortunate and that she´s not as shallow as it may seem.
Does anyone know what subject she was studying?
 
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Well,she´s been working as a model so of course she´s not camera-shy ;-)
Other people feel uncomfortable when they are surrounded by photographers or just don´t care about it but Sofia is probably trying to leave a good impression.

on Sofia Hellqvist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I read that ->Between September and October 2009, Hellqvist travelled to Ghana and did volunteer work, helping to build a women's center.
This is good work,it shows her commitment to help other people who are not that fortunate and that she´s not as shallow as it may seem.
Does anyone know what subject she was studying?

I'd probably agree about her "commitment to help other people" if Sofia's journey to Ghana had not happened on the heels of accidentally-on-purpose bumping into a certain Prince outside of a nightclub...after stalking around the entrance having heard that he partied there from time to time.

She needed and wanted to "class up" her CV, and not be seen for who and what she is...a down market reality TV actress and soft porn model, desperate for fame by any means necessary.
 
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Is this supposed to be interesting news? I find it funny how she's always ready for any photo op and smiling straight into the cameras when photographers are around, while the royals pay no attention to photographers.


Interesting or not, I don't think it's very strange she was looking straight at the camera. I mean, one can see those were posed photos and, following the example you gave, the royals, while posing for photos, do pay attention to photographers.
 
Everyone of them is an "opportunist". Daniel is an opportunist. Jonas wasn't smart enough. Camilla is, certainly, an opportunist. Everyone has their reasons. Royal marriages were often alliances. That was opportunism. She seems lovely, he seems smitten. Who are you to deny them this right?
 
But Daniel didn´t posed naked with snakes (I hope) and Camilla & Charles is another story. Sofia is one classic golddigger. Some find it okay, other like me are annoyed, another don´t care.
 
I don´t read so much gossip,so I don´t know that much about the princesses lives,I usually get myself "updated" when I´m at the hairdresser- because I think these glossy papers are a waste of money so I can´t keep up with all the rumours and stories:lol: I didn´t know that they used charity money for themselves:eek: That´s really one of the most terrible things you can do,how can you trust ppl who use other ppls sympathy and compassion for their own financial benefit? This makes everyone suspicious of NGOs and their motives-which means that less money is donated to the needy...OK,back to the topic: I don´t know Sofia,I don´t know if she´s a good person or not but if he has chosen her they should be together...and after all,what´s so terrible about her modeling past,she´s looking good and feels comfortable with her body so why not show it with confidence?After all we´ve already seen pictures of Wladimir Putin and Nicholas Sarkozy shirtless- and I rather like to see a young, beautiful woman in bikini than one of those politicians in the newspaper *lol*

Thanks for the reply, blauerengel...and thanks for getting me back on track with this post. You only need to read through the early parts of this thread to get the full account of Sofia. In a nutshell, at the age of 15 or 16 she posed topless only covering herself with her arms, there are at least thirty pictures of her (and counting) posing in a bikini with her legs spread (she REALLY likes that post), at least one that suggests bondage, a full pictorial (spread legs included) with a large snake, at one point lived with an older man in the United States at which time she posed for a series of photographs completely naked and uncovered (all her bells and whistles showing). She later was a cast member on a trashy reality program. Then she met Prince Carl-Philip, they began dating (which she tweeted to everyone) and then began her charity work. Yes, she went to Ghana, but as she isn't even a d-list celebrity, it did not bring much attention outside of those who follow Carl-Philip's activities - and she made time to be photographed with children but I haven't seen any of her doing any work there. She and a partner "created" a charity lip gloss to raise funds for her charity, but any money raised was put into an account which was in Sofia's personal name....oh, and she was Miss Slitz (some Swedish men's magazine I think).

Basically the comparison to Putin and Sarkozy would be valid if they had posed for pictures with no pants on, then decided to enter politics (which has actually happened here in the U.S.!) but AFAIK that was not the case. True, Carla Bruni posed topless before, but her relationship and subsequent marriage to Sarkozy wasn't until after he was elected and quickly divorced his wife.
 
Why try to stop love for someone if it's there. I know Sofia might not be for everyone but she's good enough to be within the inner circle of the castle's workings. We may not know what her philosophy and cultural understanding is of this vast World but maybe she qualifies as outstanding and attractive for such as Sweden's Prince. There may come a period of time when Sofia will become more committed and an accompany to Philip's side and then the intimate to her newness will be for all to display. Give her your approval for although she doesn't need it she may earn it. Then who knows? Maybe better and more instances where we get to see her and her pretty eyes.
 
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Why try and stop your friend/family member from using drugs if they love it?
 
I can understand your outrage and critisizm for her nude pictures,and no,I don´t want to compare Sofia to any politician :lol:I just wanted to say that it´s ok for a man to be photographed without shirt and his reputation is not damaged but if a woman shows off her body she´s considered a whore.This is what is making me a little bit sad,just because you make sexy pictures it doesn´t necessarily mean that you are a bad,shallow person with no integrity. Many young woman get pictures done so that they can finance their studies or pay the rent and there is a huge market for such pictures-but why to condemn the women who have to make the pictures to pay their bills instead of questioning the morals of the men who like to watch pictures like the ones you described above :posing in a bikini with her legs spread (she REALLY likes that post), at least one that suggests bondage, a full pictorial (spread legs included) with a large snake, at one point lived with an older man in the United States at which time she posed for a series of photographs completely naked and uncovered (all her bells and whistles showing).

I am not talking about Sofia-but generally these double-standards and hypocrisy in our society make me really angry for most women don´t choose to make nude pictures or work as a prostitute for example,I don´t think that ANY woman would do something like that if she had the chance to do something better,more honorable!And if you look at Sofia´s CV I don´t think that she has any impressive diplomas or degrees to get her a well-paid job so she took up modeling and that´s much much better than living from social welfare or on your parents cost...
 
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I can understand your outrage and critisizm for her nude pictures,and no,I don´t want to compare Sofia to any politician :lol:I just wanted to say that it´s ok for a man to be photographed without shirt and his reputation is not damaged but if a woman shows off her body she´s considered a whore.This is what is making me a little bit sad,just because you make sexy pictures it doesn´t necessarily mean that you are a bad,shallow person with no integrity. Many young woman get pictures done so that they can finance their studies or pay the rent and there is a huge market for such pictures-but why to condemn the women who have to make the pictures to pay their bills instead of questioning the morals of the men who like to watch pictures like the ones you described above :posing in a bikini with her legs spread (she REALLY likes that post), at least one that suggests bondage, a full pictorial (spread legs included) with a large snake, at one point lived with an older man in the United States at which time she posed for a series of photographs completely naked and uncovered (all her bells and whistles showing).

I am not talking about Sofia-but generally these double-standards and hypocrisy in our society make me really angry for most women don´t choose to make nude pictures or work as a prostitute for example,I don´t think that ANY woman would do something like that if she had the chance to do something better,more honorable!And if you look at Sofia´s CV I don´t think that she has any impressive diplomas or degrees to get her a well-paid job so she took up modeling and that´s much much better than living from social welfare or on your parents cost...

Hi, again blauerengel! Thanks for the discussion, I appreciate it. Several things on this last post....

1. I am totally in agreement with you on the double standard with men and women. It is exponentially (love using this word) worse here in the US but it also is used against anyone who aspires to a career in politics - male or female - who is perceived as less than good-looking. I truly wish we had election reform that disallowed the names/images of candidates. I think some of our most famous/greatest presidents (Lincoln, FDR, John Quincy Adams) would never have been elected by today's visual standards. And I'm sure there are many people who would be incredible leaders who choose not to participate because of the scrutiny or are encouraged not to participate because they are not "marketable".

2. On the portions I highlighted in your post...Sofia wasn't paying rent (she was living with her parents) when she started her underage nude modeling, and after her extensive career of split-leg poses, her only educational endeavor was an unfinished/uncertified yoga instruction training and since she didn't successfully complete that decided to design yoga clothing (which I think is great because it is at least something). In addition, I have nothing against nude photographs, nude dancing, or nudity in general. I believe that the human body is beautiful, what we do with or to it can make it ugly/trashy. It's like stripper on a pole/lap dancer vs. topless Las Vegas revue, Playboy pictorial vs. Hustler pictorial, Demi Moore's Vanity Fair naked and pregnant cover vs. any of the photos of Sofia.

3. I also agree that posing for nude pictures such as the ones Sofia did, or being a stripper, or even a prostitute, doesn't make a person shallow or lacking in integrity. I believe Sofia is shallow because she is on the record as saying her aspiration in life is to be famous, she chose to participate in the lowest form of "modeling" and since no one knew of her before CP she wasn't the "next top model", and she participated in the lowest form of reality programming. I believe she is lacking in integrity because of the questionable financial dealings with "charity" money, her charity "work" looks more like charity photo ops, and IMO she is being dishonest about her intentions in dating CP.

And I don't make these statements without some perspective...I have a friend who revealed to me that many years ago when she was feeling desperate decided to dance at a gentleman's (and I lose that term loosely) club. She described it as revolting but she continued to dance after the first night because of the money and stayed for over a month before she couldn't deal with it....so she left, got a job at a fast food joint and another on weekends cleaning offices...and put herself through college. I didn't think less of her for what she did out of desperation. But I thought more of the character she demonstrated by handling her life herself rather than cozying up to a prince/rich guy/someone to take care of her.

Rascal

BTW - while it may be okay for a man to be photographed with his shirt off...with guys who do that as often as Sofia did in a bikini with her legs spread...I think more and more people look at them as arrogant himbos or douchebags like the Jersey Shore dudes...so maybe it's okay but it is still looked down upon.
 
Rascal, I am also not a fan of spread-leg pictures of women but I accept that there is a demand for it and we live in a free society,so I just try to ignore it even though I don´t like girls/women being presented only as "sex objects"...
At least nude pictures are not illegal and don´t hurt anybody (except sometimes they violate our sensitive eyes or moral values :whistling:)

But if Carl-Philip can accept her past and likes Sofia for whatever reason it´s ok with me,after all he´s not going to be the next king and CP Victoria is a smart,disciplined woman who is doing very well in representing her country :flowers:

And for calling Sofia an opportunitist...look at his pictures,I guess a lot of girls/women would wait outside a club or go where he goes just to get to know him, he´s attractive for more than his money and celebrity status :D
 
While Sofia can definitely like Carl Phillip for his looks. Let's face it....handsome men are like beautiful woman --- a dime a dozen. Its the package that makes someone stand out in a pretty crowd. And the package can include but not limited to personality, confidence, wealth and position. Just as one can assume that she is with Carl Phillip for his looks, wealth and position one can also state that it he is with her for her looks. She is a attractive young woman. But aren't most of us physically or mentally attracted to someone at first?A nd than you get to know them beyond the looks.
You are thinking....cute and smart...or pretty and funny. Or nice looking and a great personality.

I don't know Sofia personally, so I can't speak on what she thinks of CP but I would agree that it appears that she is seeking fame (based on some things she has done in the past). Can one find fame and love at the same time. They certainly can.
 
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Its the package that makes someone stand out in a pretty crowd. And the package can include but not limited to personality, confidence, wealth and position.

:previous:Totally agree with you:)
We don´t know about their personalities and character,we can only comment on their appearance and it´s not fair to judge someone you haven´t met in real life.
So we should just wait & see what they are up to,I´m sure if Sofia is serious about the relationship we are going to see her at many charity events in the future!

I´ve already posted the question,but nobody seems to know which subject she studied at university?I´ve read that she was studying but can´t find any further informations on her academic efforts...
 
Everyone of them is an "opportunist". Daniel is an opportunist. Jonas wasn't smart enough. Camilla is, certainly, an opportunist. Everyone has their reasons. Royal marriages were often alliances. That was opportunism. She seems lovely, he seems smitten. Who are you to deny them this right?

I am certainly in no position to "deny" anyone a thing, certainly not a Royal Prince who lives in a country I have never visited(as much as I'd like to) and probably never will.

I just think she is a terrible...repeat TERRIBLE choice for a Princess of Sweden and I have posted the reason(s) why. So have several others.

Many times.

BUT...I don't think this particular Prince is anything to fire off the artillery about either. He seems lazy. He seems unmotivated by anything other than race cars.

Other than the fact that he is extraordinarily handsome-which he has no control over-I can find nothing to admire about him.

So maybe he SHOULD marry an attention seeking soft porn/reality TV personality...you get the partner you deserve, imo.
 
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Wow, comparing an addiction to drugs to love? Totally off. :lol:

Stark example, yes...but maybe here is one you can understand. I once worked with a woman who was physically abused often (at least twice a month, sometimes more) by her husband...couldn't even lie about it because she often had black eyes, bruises on her face and arms, once a broken wrist. When co-workers encouraged her to leave him (one even offering to let her and her daughters live with them rent free) she always responded with, "He's trying to do better" and/or "He always apologizes" and that she wouldn't leave because she "loved" him. Long story short...three other members of our team became so depressed about the situation and her choosing to stay in it and bringing it into the workplace, they spoke to a supervisor, who also encouraged her to leave and provided her with several resources for help...telling her that she was confusing financial security and familiarity with love. She made no use of those resources and eventually she lost her job because IMO she was addicted to the sense of familiarity as well as the caring attention she received from her coworkers for so long (over a year). Yes some of the choices she made were out of fear and a diminished sense of self-worth, but she was also addicted to him (apparently the sex was good). As you can see, using the drug reference is a little more concise and to the point and still addresses the issue.
 
There's no reason on earth their relationship should be compared to an abusive relationship or a drug addiction, no matter how you feel about Sofia.
 
Stark example, yes...but maybe here is one you can understand. I once worked with a woman who was physically abused often (at least twice a month, sometimes more) by her husband...couldn't even lie about it because she often had black eyes, bruises on her face and arms, once a broken wrist. When co-workers encouraged her to leave him (one even offering to let her and her daughters live with them rent free) she always responded with, "He's trying to do better" and/or "He always apologizes" and that she wouldn't leave because she "loved" him. Long story short...three other members of our team became so depressed about the situation and her choosing to stay in it and bringing it into the workplace, they spoke to a supervisor, who also encouraged her to leave and provided her with several resources for help...telling her that she was confusing financial security and familiarity with love. She made no use of those resources and eventually she lost her job because IMO she was addicted to the sense of familiarity as well as the caring attention she received from her coworkers for so long (over a year). Yes some of the choices she made were out of fear and a diminished sense of self-worth, but she was also addicted to him (apparently the sex was good). As you can see, using the drug reference is a little more concise and to the point and still addresses the issue.

This story is so typical, a lot of women stay in unhappy relationship for some of the reasons you wrote above,but this is a very complex topic....and "He's trying to do better" and/or "He always apologizes" and that she wouldn't leave because she "loved" him. often excuse the worst actions,not only in romantic relationships! Some of the patterns of addiction are that 1)the addict says "I have no problem, I can handle it" 2)you don´t accept help 3)the addicted person feels they can´t do without it (wheter it is drugs,shopping,love,loosing weight etc.) 4)the more ppl tell them to stop the more they cling to it...:sad:

But back to Carl-Philip: As far as I know he studied graphic design and is very passionate about photography,he already worked professionally for National Geographic which is a very good magazine with great pictures+articles about nature and anthropology:)
He´s still young and many men are interested in fast cars,sports and good-looking girls:whistling:
 
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He´s still young and many men are interested in fast cars,sports and good-looking girls:whistling:

Actually, at 30+ years, he's not THAT young. Honestly if the timing was opposite and he dated a girl like Sofia when he was in his teens/just out of school and then found someone like Emma when he reached his late twenties/current age, I probably wouldn't have a problem. And personally, I think emotionally he is still a little boy and aside from Sofia's considerable sexual skills, I think he is with her so he can feel like a mature, intelligent, capable man.
 
I think he is with her so he can feel like a mature, intelligent, capable man.
-> So he´s just an average,normal man,no need to worry about him *lol*

Staying with Emma for such a long time shows he can commit to something, most men don´t have such long-lasting relationships when they are below 30...
 
I'm beginning to feel quite bad for her. There seems to be a lot of slut shaming directed her way. I honestly could care less that she's posed nude- I don't think there's anything wrong with it- and she could be quite a nice person.

Or not, maybe she's awful. But I don't think her sexual behavior is relevant.
 
I think he is with her so he can feel like a mature, intelligent, capable man.
-> So he´s just an average,normal man,no need to worry about him *lol*

Staying with Emma for such a long time shows he can commit to something, most men don´t have such long-lasting relationships when they are below 30...

maybe he was just lazy and stayed with Emma because it was convenient, who knows. wouldnt be the first man to do so.
 
As you can see, using the drug reference is a little more concise and to the point and still addresses the issue.

Umm I can't see anyway of linking domestic abuse and a drug addiction to loving someone?

Sofia loves CP, CP loves Sofia. Why try and stop a non abusive love?

I agree with HRHHermione

There's no reason on earth their relationship should be compared to an abusive relationship or a drug addiction, no matter how you feel about Sofia.

Perfect post - I don't see how you can link the three situations together. Ridiculous.
 
There's no reason on earth their relationship should be compared to an abusive relationship or a drug addiction, no matter how you feel about Sofia.
Yea, and I don't understand how the story of the abused coworker has anything to do with this!
 
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Why try and stop your friend/family member from using drugs if they love it?

:clap::lol: So true!!!

I'm beginning to feel quite bad for her. There seems to be a lot of slut shaming directed her way. I honestly could care less that she's posed nude- I don't think there's anything wrong with it- and she could be quite a nice person.

Or not, maybe she's awful. But I don't think her sexual behavior is relevant.

We've been over this many times before - it's not just the posing nude, but many other things:

- Bragged about French kissing pornstar Jenna Jameson in Vegas once (oh yeah, real classy :rolleyes:)
- A few months before CP adknowledged the relationship publicly, Sophia was bragging on Twitter, "You want to know a secret? I'm dating the prince!" Why did she feel the need to announce that unless she was wanting attention and wanting people to envy her?
- Was on a reality show trying to get attention (people only go on reality shows if they're fame hungry).
- Is always smiling straight into paparazzi cameras, as if she's always ready for a photo op, while the royals seem to do their best to ignore photographers, because they find them annoying.

If all these things don't open your eyes, then I don't know what will. But whatever; if CP wants her, let him have her. And if he ends up having problems with her down the road, it'll be his problem to deal with. :)
 
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None of that means she'd a bad person. It means she's made some misguided decisions, but it doesn't mean she's incapable of being the wife of someone who isn't the heir and will probably have a relatively minor role in the royal family.

Carl Philip likes her. That's all that really matters.
 
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