Press Reports about Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist, Part 1: Jan. 2010 - April 2012


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Why does Moderator allow writing about pictures that TRF members can´t see on links in the Forums as we are used to? Why do You write here? This thred is NOT about pictures. It´s "Press Reports About Prince Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist.

These pictures are part of press reports concerning Sofia Hellqvist.

About art, I am not against all nudity in art but I really don't see anything artistic in Sofia's pics.
 
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I get the picture ! (At last..) Okay, so she is posing in the nude....

I can't see how (or if) Carl Philip can have her as a consort.
But perhaps that is not what he intends...
 
I can't see how (or if) Carl Philip can have her as a consort.
But perhaps that is not what he intends...

If he wasnt serious about the relationship, he would not move in with her and drag her along when on holiday with his parents ...
Sofia doesnt look like a girl who would end up "used" by CP, she will make sure that the relationship will live up to HER expactations too, not only his.
 
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  • posting content containing nudity or violence;
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I think the point Karisma tries to raise is the following: only the King and the Queen can decide if Sofia is fit to enter in the royal family. But I oppose to this another point, which is Sofia will most probably have a public life as princess of Sweden, and I highly doubt everyone will happily accept to have social relations with a girl who posed for soft porn pics (yes, these pics are porn, there are few doubts about it) and which does not give any signs this is something she regrets and that could have many impacts for the charity work the future princess may be able to do.
I have no objections with commoner princesses, I had no objections with Mette-Marit but I fully understand why people have objections with a maybe future princesse who was paid for posing for porn pics, even if they were soft porn.

And WHAT is wrong with porn these days? We're in the 21st century. Not in the 18th or 19th. Nude skin is not a crime these days. Contrary to doing drugs (Mette-Marit) or having contacts to dictators and terrorists and not seeing anything wrong with it (Andrew).

And we shouldn't forget that we're just talking about a non-official girlfriend of a prince here and not about an official girlfriend/fiancée/wife. She doesn't have to be princess material in this stage of their relationship. And when the time comes that she has to be princess material it's early enough to discuss it. We're talking about bridges that we didn't even come across right now.
 
Very good captured

And WHAT is wrong with porn these days? We're in the 21st century. Not in the 18th or 19th. Nude skin is not a crime these days. Contrary to doing drugs (Mette-Marit) or having contacts to dictators and terrorists and not seeing anything wrong with it (Andrew).

And we shouldn't forget that we're just talking about a non-official girlfriend of a prince here and not about an official girlfriend/fiancée/wife. She doesn't have to be princess material in this stage of their relationship. And when the time comes that she has to be princess material it's early enough to discuss it. We're talking about bridges that we didn't even come across right now.

You've captured my mind in a very good way. Can the heir apparent in other countries have mistresses (married elsewhere) behind the back of his royal consort, and then, when the consort no longer exists in the picture, marry the mistress, and still be accepted, (and former drug addicts be repent and loved) , so should a person who in his youth proved too much skin could also get a chance. In any case, one would think that condemnations may wait until you have seen how the romance developed.
 
Obviously the Sofia pictures are in a category (as per Jessrulz's post) that cannot be posted her for these reasons:
  • posting any content deemed by us to be obscene, sexually explicit, vulgar, threatening, harassing, or abusive;
  • posting content containing nudity or violence;
That speaks volumes, doesnt it?

It cheapens the Swedish monarchy and Swedish monarch couple to associate with Sofia and her background (see holiday pictures) and it doesnt matter if she is an official or non-official girlfriend. Boy, the standard is getting pretty low. Victoria had to fight for her relationship with a hard working & educated fitness trainer for many years.


btw, its a difference if people KNOW about a shady past such as Mette-Marit, Mabel etc or if people can SEE the actual proof, as in Sofia's case.
 
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In future it´s not "Princesses by birth, Princesses by marriage and Princesses of Monaco" anymore, no Monaco will be replaced by Sweden :cool:
 
Obviously the Sofia pictures are in a category (as per Jessrulz's post) that cannot be posted her for these reasons:
  • posting any content deemed by us to be obscene, sexually explicit, vulgar, threatening, harassing, or abusive;
  • posting content containing nudity or violence;
That speaks volumes, doesnt it?

It cheapens the Swedish monarchy and Swedish monarch couple to associate with Sofia and her background (see holiday pictures) and it doesnt matter if she is an official or non-official girlfriend. Boy, the standard is getting pretty low. Victoria had to fight for her relationship with a hard working & educated fitness trainer for many years.


btw, its a difference if people KNOW about a shady past such as Mette-Marit, Mabel etc or if people can SEE the actual proof, as in Sofia's case.
Perfection! I could not have thought of better words. Could not agree more!!!
 
Obviously the Sofia pictures are in a category (as per Jessrulz's post) that cannot be posted her for these reasons:
  • posting any content deemed by us to be obscene, sexually explicit, vulgar, threatening, harassing, or abusive;
  • posting content containing nudity or violence;
That speaks volumes, doesnt it?

It cheapens the Swedish monarchy and Swedish monarch couple to associate with Sofia and her background (see holiday pictures) and it doesnt matter if she is an official or non-official girlfriend. Boy, the standard is getting pretty low. Victoria had to fight for her relationship with a hard working & educated fitness trainer for many years.


btw, its a difference if people KNOW about a shady past such as Mette-Marit, Mabel etc or if people can SEE the actual proof, as in Sofia's case.
I fully agree with everything you wrote.
 
I will not judge

It cheapens the Swedish monarchy and Swedish monarch couple to associate with Sofia and her background (see holiday pictures) and it doesnt matter if she is an official or non-official girlfriend. Boy, the standard is getting pretty low.

First: I didn´t like the photos in the link.

It is your opinion that not all of us shares. Time will tell. In Sweden there are no loud noises that the prince should not be hanging out with Sofia.

Victoria had to fight for her relationship with a hard working & educated fitness trainer for many years.

Many members here in TRF spoke ill of Daniel Westling and "singing praises" the Jonas Bergström. With hindsight, we now know how it was with the loud praising of Jonas and skeptis around Daniel.

btw, its a difference if people KNOW about a shady past such as Mette-Marit, Mabel etc or if people can SEE the actual proof, as in Sofia's case.

There is no problem finding pictures of Mette-Marit's "wild time". Nor embarrassing material about Andrew or Charles and Camilla.

Personally, I am glad that the Norwegian people could take Mette-Marit to their hearts and that she did show that the sins of youth is actually possible to forgive and bridge.
 
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We all have opinions of this, and we have right to that. I have always liked about Daniel, and disliked Jonas from the start, he was way too slimy. About Sofia - I can´t respect a woman who has posed at photos that in my opinion are humiliating and degrading for women.
 
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We all have opinions of this, and we have right to that. I have always liked about Daniel, and disliked Jonas from the start, he was way too slimy. About Sofia - I can´t respect a woman who has posed at photos that in my opinion are humiliating and degrading for women.

I wonder if she expresses remorse, much like Mette-Marit did, would people forgive her? If she got a normal job would that help? Does anyone think that she can be redeemed in anyway?

By the way some people have been forgiven like Mette-Marit others like Prince Felipe's ex-girlfriend Eva Sanuum not so much. Who knows what people will forgive unless you ask or she gains respect for standing her ground on the issue.
 
I wonder if she expresses remorse, much like Mette-Marit did, would people forgive her? If she got a normal job would that help? Does anyone think that she can be redeemed in anyway?

By the way some people have been forgiven like Mette-Marit others like Prince Felipe's ex-girlfriend Eva Sanuum not so much. Who knows what people will forgive unless you ask or she gains respect for standing her ground on the issue.

You may be on to something here. For me, it's not so much the pictures, even though they are tasteless (but young people do silly things), it's the fact that everything for the past year seems geared towards "becoming a princess".

The first I ever heard of Sofia was through an article about her undergoing media training and getting a mentor to help her "look the part".

Then, out of the blue, she's started a charity to help the "poor little Africans", because nothing says "hey, I'm princess material" than helping those in need, especially po' black folk. It seemed like a really desperate ploy to gain credibility.

If she were really interested in helping, and had done a little bit of research, she would have known that starting her own charity was a bad idea, and it would be better if she worked with an established one.

If she wants people to accept her, she's going to need to start doing things that don't look as though their end game is a ring and a title. Does she work? Is she in school? If she's serious about this charity, has she been back to see how things are going? She needs to be like most modern partners and have a life outside who she's dating- even Daniel had his own business. (Perhaps she does and I don't know about it. The press may not talk about her job as a salesperson because it's too boring.)
 
I suppose that depends on what you think of the prospect of a princess Sofia. So in my case I would have preferred it if she never made it as far as meeting the in-laws ;). But well, no pictures of her at Victoria's birthday yet and if she would have been there she must have found camera's by now... (just deducting from the other pictures this month where she is the only one who seems to be looking into (/for?) the cameras. Not quite surprising considering her (past?) ambition to become a celebrity I would say).

But thanks for posting the photo, ILoveCP, I hadn't seen one of them dressed for the wedding yet.
 
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If she was invited to Princess Victoria's birthday, she would make sure that everyone knew she was there. Pictures of her at the birthay would be all over the place. She would probably tell anyone that would listen she was there. This would get people's attention.
 
Interesting photo. Victoria and Madeline are close together and Sofia is further away from them. They are ignoring her completely and not including her as they walk to a waiting car. This is the impression that I get from looking at the photo. I don't see any contact between them and Sofia. If you didn't know that Sofia was Prince Carl Phillip's girlfriend, you would assume that she was just another guest at the wedding.
 
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Interesting photo. Victoria and Madeline are close together and Sofia is further away from them. They are ignoring her completely and not including her as they walk to a waiting car. This is the impression that I get from looking at the photo. I don't see any contact between them and Sofia. If you didn't know that Sofia was Prince Carl Phillip's girlfriend, you would assume that she was just another guest at the wedding.

Sofia is only a private person who spends time with Carl-Filip - oficially... That´s why she goes behind.
 
Nobody knew that camera was there

Probably not, and that´s why the photo tells the truth.
According to ExpressenTV, Madeleine has told her friends, that during the two days in Paris last week she didn´t talk with Sofia at all, never said a word to her.
ExpressenTV
 
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Interesting photo. Victoria and Madeline are close together and Sofia is further away from them. They are ignoring her completely and not including her as they walk to a waiting car. This is the impression that I get from looking at the photo. I don't see any contact between them and Sofia. If you didn't know that Sofia was Prince Carl Phillip's girlfriend, you would assume that she was just another guest at the wedding.

I read that the photographer said that when Madeleine spotted him across the street, she immediately moved away from Sofia so as to mark a distance.
 
The occasion on which this photo was taken wasn't just 'a' wedding but the Versailles wedding of Queen Silvia's nephew Patrick Sommerlath, who for many years lived at Drottningholnm Palace with the Royal Family after his parents divorced and practically became a kind of older brother to the royal children; therefore, a large part of the Queen's family must have been present and met Sofia Hellqvist.
Her dress is in a very good color for her but so tight that it looks as if she was sewn into it.
Did anyone see more pics of this rather interesting occasion?
 
Did anyone see more pics of this rather interesting occasion?

Boris, in the article of Expressen it was said that the photorapher was from magazine "S", so maybe the photos are on it´s next number. At their website is still the last number, not the new one.
 
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