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Old 09-27-2010, 11:33 AM
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Protocol has nothing to do with it, siblings can marry when they like.
Joachim married before his elder brother in Denmark, Princess Anne married before Prince Charles in the UK.
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Old 09-27-2010, 11:38 AM
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I wonder if that impediment was not in place if madeleine would have married jonas a couple years ago same with Carl Phillip with Emma then this whole Sofia buisness would not have been an issue ? .
Actually the relationships between both couples could still have followed the same course, regardless of them being married or not. Jonas could still have cheated and possibly fathered a child with another woman. CP and/or Emma could have still gotten bored, bailed, and CP could still have rebounded with a "rebound girl".
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Old 09-27-2010, 11:46 AM
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1. Even though it has gone on this long and the "will-they-or-won't-they" discussion is incessant, I think most people assume at this point that Kate and William will be getting married....it's spoken about as if it is inevitable. Whereas the discussion of Carl-Philip and Sofia assumes it won't.
However CP and Sofia have been only dating for a year and a half, William and Kate have been dating for 8 years, talk of an engagement only started 5 years ago when there were rumours that Kate had been invited to Sandringham at Christmas.

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2. W&K have been together for a LOOOONNNGG time. Yes, they lived together in college where they met, but as roommates with others sharing a house for an extensive time before their relationship developed. CP&S haven't even been together for an entire year (I think?) and are displaying affection in public (a no-no for most royals, but I don't care) and now moving in together much sooner than CP did with Emma.
A no-no for most royals perhaps, but this is the Swedish Royal Family. And I have seen a lot of pictures of Crown Prince couples showing public affection towards each other.
Yes they lived together at Uni, and are living together now if rumours are correct but just because they are moving faster than CP moved with Emma isn't a bad thing, just means they are more comfortable with each other.

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3. Yes, Kate modeled in that one campus show where the dress was see-through, and her underwear/swimsuit could clearly be seen. But the photo from that is a FAR cry from the salacious, provocative, borderline pornographic images of Sofia (maybe more to do with the photographer/stylist on the shoot, but Sofia seems very at home in next-to-nothing in a pose that suggests "available" (and that's being nice). In fact, of the two, Sofia lists "model" on her resume but Kate is the only one of them who has done anything that resembles actual fashion modeling.
I never brought up anything to do with comparing the pictures because as you point out you really cannot compare the picture taken of Kate and the ones of Sofia.

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4. If Kate were to do any charity work, I believe most people would think it genuine and sincere. Even after all this time and with the amount of photographers following her, she doesn't exude that "look at me" or "I want to be famous" vibe. Even if that is her goal, she tends to stay away from seeking publicity. Sofia on the other hand has stated publicly that she wants to be famous and participates in activities to achieve that end. Her charity work, I believe, is viewed overall as empty, insincere, and a means to an end (landing a title...she already landed the prince).
Kate has been asked to do Charity work many a time, and has started then mysteriously pulled out. My main point was that, Sofia is doing charity work, to prove to us and whoever else that she wants to work to change her image. Kate has only recently hid from the limelight because she was told to, her family really do the talking for her. Kate might not seem too forward but IMO her mother is. After the "Uncle Gary" incident Kate refrained from even going out to nightclubs once a month.
If she helps people in the long run, she makes CP happy and she proves herself to the royal family and sweden that she can do a good job, what does her past matter?

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Kate is well educated and did nothing really serious since the graduation. She looks like the appendix of William, and that bothers me.
I donīt think she is not suitable or stupid, but her behave

Sofia is yuck! Okay, we saw not so good photos of Kate when she goes out of the car. But that is a faux pas, which is not that fatal.
But Sofia.... Did you see the photos of her, where you can see her lady zone?
Just blurry (I think that was the intention), but


Thatīs not an offense to you Lumutqueen, itīs good to make this question.
Kate only got an education at place like Marlborough College and St Andrews because her parents could afford it. Doesn't mean she really got a good education if she didn't take it in, which IMO she didn't. Else she would be doing something other than being at William's beck and call.

I haven't seen the pictures you mention, but these were taken before she became involved with CP, it's her past and if she regrets doing these things it should not affect her future.
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Old 09-27-2010, 02:48 PM
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Hi, Lumutqueen, and thanks for the responses. I don't know if we have been involved in a "healthy" discussion or disagreement before, but it is refreshing to have someone not take another person's opinion and viewpoint as if it were a slap in the face and get argumentative. I really appreciate your opinion and treatment of this forum as a means to open up discussion and debate and not as a place to equate "my truth" or "your truth" with "THE truth".

BTW, good point about Kate getting but perhaps not maintaining her good education.

Thanks again for you contribution.
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Old 09-27-2010, 03:17 PM
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As somebody who has lived in Capetown I can assure you that there is NO WAY that Sofia or any other young white woman, including Frida who works with her, would work in a township on a regular basis. My guess is she goes in there, poses for pictures and goes out. Driven by people who know how to avoid a car jacking and possible bigger damage done. That does not mean that she is not collecting money and giving it to the person who runs the project in Langa, certainly a local woman.
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:49 PM
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Old 09-30-2010, 04:13 PM
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How come the children are not disabled? I thought it is a project for disabled children, at least that is what was said in the presentation of the lipgloss.
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:57 PM
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Oh please! When the last photo from her current visit to South-Africa was posted everyone was screaming why she wasn't interacting with the kids. Now she's right in the middle of them all and even carries one on her arms and it's still not good enough? Maybe there was just a misunderstanding and they didn't mean disabled kids but disadvantaged kids.

I like this new photo more than the other one, but I don't think it was a bad photo before. You don't always have to be right in the middle to do something good. She was standing behind the kids and was talking to them. What's wrong with that? Oh wait, it's Sofia, the naughty, bad gold-digger, in the picture and not holy Lady Diana, Waity Katie or someone entirely else. I'm sorry I haven't thought about that before.
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:02 PM
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Is it just me or does she favor the right side of her face? If I recall correctly there are several pictures on her website taken from a similar angle as this picture.

Nothing wrong with a girl wanting to look good in pictures, but considering her altruistic nature one would assume she would think there were more pressing matters at hand.
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:06 PM
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Children who are disabled don't always show outwards signs of it. It could be a learning disability, mental challenges or a physical disablity that doesn't show outwardly. By looking at the picture you can't really tell if the children have disabilities or are disadvantaged.
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Old 10-03-2010, 07:15 PM
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Also, Carl Philip isn't heir to the throne so he'll be given more flexibility- especially after Victoria has her first child.
We are assuming that Victoria and Daniel CAN or will have children...that is not at all certain.

As long as they do not PCP is next in line to the throne after Victoria. And if he is permitted to marry Sofia, she could become Queen of Sweden.

God forbid. I will start my prayers.
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Old 10-04-2010, 03:03 AM
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We are assuming that Victoria and Daniel CAN or will have children...that is not at all certain.

As long as they do not PCP is next in line to the throne after Victoria. And if he is permitted to marry Sofia, she could become Queen of Sweden.

God forbid. I will start my prayers.
It would be really funny, such a Queen!
On the other hand, Swedes are always eager to break traditions and so-called stereotypes, which they regard as harmful, so with semi-naked Princess Sofia they would get what they deserve! At least they would have a great opportunity to show their open-mindness!
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Old 10-04-2010, 04:44 PM
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well we will just have to wait how their relationship will turn out
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:08 PM
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My guess is that PCP won't make any move toward an engagement with Sofia(if that is where this is headed) UNTIL Victoria and Daniel have a child.

He knows that the birth of a child would remove him further from the Succession and take some of the pressure off of him to find a more suitable spouse.

I simply cannot imagine that the King, Queen or Parliament would consider accepting a future Queen Sofia!
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:41 PM
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^That makes sense. If everything goes fine for them (CP and Sofia) they will probably get engaged after Victoria has a child. Well, it's a possibility.
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Old 10-05-2010, 08:04 AM
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I seriously doubt Prince Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist will ever marry.
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Old 10-05-2010, 08:54 AM
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Sofia Hellqvist jobbar på i Sydafrika | Svensk Damtidning
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:01 AM
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I seriously doubt Prince Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist will ever marry.
Well, everything is possible, but I have my doubts too. I donīt think Prince CP ever wants to marry in years to come. His looong relationship with Emma didnīt lead to engagement either. And to be honest, I think that men generally are not too eager to MARRY such girls, being in succession line or not.
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such girls? girls such as emma? or sofia?
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Old 10-05-2010, 12:56 PM
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^That makes sense. If everything goes fine for them (CP and Sofia) they will probably get engaged after Victoria has a child. Well, it's a possibility.
Sounds like the best possibility IMO.
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