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Old 09-24-2010, 11:09 AM
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I believe Emma did live with Carl Phillip.

Wow...these two are moving rather fast. I wonder if the Swedish monarchy and public is open enough for Sofia's past. It will be interesting to see how this develops.
I don't think the Sweden Monarchy nor the Public is ready for this. I don't think the people of Sweden are very happy with it. I wouldn't.
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:40 PM
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Carl Philip and Sofia don´t have to get married just because (if) they live together. Victoria and Daniel lived together for many years before Daniel moved to Drottningholm, although he had an own apartment they lived in Victoria´s apartment at Drottningholm. Madeleine and Jonas lived together too.
About the photo of Sofia at Capetown I posted before, I think she is dressed a little bit too sexy...
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:48 PM
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You are correct LadyFinn.

Just because the couple lives together it doesn't mean that they will marry. But living together is a big step in a dating relationship. IMO people don't live together if they are dating unless Marriage has been discussed. Why play house? Yes finances might make living together an option but more often than not its because its the next step.
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:56 PM
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How old is she again?

I would like to know what happend in New York, which makes Silvia furious. Maybe this is not true.
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Old 09-24-2010, 03:04 PM
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How old is she again?
Sofia is 25 years old, she was born December 6, 1984.
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Old 09-24-2010, 03:37 PM
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Thanks LadyFinn!

She is quite young. I don´t think there is a wedding before her 30th.
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Old 09-24-2010, 04:59 PM
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I don't think the Sweden Monarchy nor the Public is ready for this. I don't think the people of Sweden are very happy with it. I wouldn't.
Actually I think the main Swede doesn't really care. As said before: Sweden is a very open minded country (as in:not as religious as Spain for example) and I think most people are just focused on their own lives and don't really care what royalty does on a day-to-day basis. I think we (the foreigeners) are more interested in the entire situation.
Just my opinion, though.
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:04 PM
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Also, Carl Philip isn't heir to the throne so he'll be given more flexibility- especially after Victoria has her first child.
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:05 PM
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Actually I think the main Swede doesn't really care. As said before: Sweden is a very open minded country (as in:not as religious as Spain for example) and I think most people are just focused on their own lives and don't really care what royalty does on a day-to-day basis. I think we (the foreigeners) are more interested in the entire situation.
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That may be true up to a point. From what I understand there was a big concern about Daniel when he first started dating Victoria. If that wasn't the case, I would imagine they would have married some time ago.

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Also, Carl Philip isn't heir to the throne so he'll be given more flexibility- especially after Victoria has her first child.
No, Carl Phillip isn't the heir and yes there is some flexiblity UP TO A POINT. I mean people still care what Harry (GB), Joachim (Denmark), etc do. Of course, as their siblings have children and they move further down in the Line of Succession and out of the spotlight it will change. But God forbid if anything happens to Victoria...then its all Carl Phillip. I am not wishing harm to Victoria but life happens and tomorrow is not promised to ANYONE. That's why it matters what CP does and who he marries.

If there is concern about a legit job of being a gym trainer/owner how flexible is position of nude model/reality star? The unsaid question is if the Swede Royals are just like us why do we need them?

As much as people go on and on (in the media, in real life and sometimes here at TRF) about the cost of monarchies, the relevance of monarchies, and why we still need monarchies....I just don't get why some are like...she is a nice girl (she probably is), Carl Phillip isn't the heir (no he is not but he is in Line of Sucession), Love (it makes the world go round and what she did in her private life shouldn't matter) don't understand how this type of relationship (possibly leading into marriage) can make the lot of the Swedish population (who are paying for CP) say you know what.....Thanks for the hundred plus years of service but no thanks. Bye Carl Gustaf...Bye Silvia...Bye Victoria and Daniel.

As much as people were concerned about Daniel and Victoria they should share the same concerns for Carl Phillip and Sofia. She is a much more questionable partner in my opinion.

With the exception of people who were on the very first or second seasons of ANY reality show....people who go on reality shows are looking to be famous or discovered (in the sense of any Idol, America's Got talent, Top Chef, etc.). That's what makes her questionable to me.
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Eep! This isn't good. I think the problem for me (maybe others too?) is that everything she is known for is attention seeking. You don't agree to be photographed for a magazine called Slitz, without knowing you'll get noticed - ditto reality TV.

Regarding their relationship, I think its too early to move in together (I'm the same age as Sofia so I'm not a dinosaur!). As Zonk said, moving in together is a statement of intent, and even if CP and Sofia don't agree, they must see how it looks to others.

Also, Victoria and Daniel don't have kids yet. They're in their 30s, he has a long-term health issue and she has recovered from an eating disorder. The odds aren't massively in their favour. I hope they have kids, they so obviously are in love and want them, and (I think) would be amazing parents, but those things don't guarantee anything. It is too early for CP to disregard his position - see Belgium's recent history!

That is a massively disorganised post and I'm a bit sleepy, but I think my ideas are clear!
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:41 PM
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What does "Slitz" mean ?
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:52 PM
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Eep! This isn't good. I think the problem for me (maybe others too?) is that everything she is known for is attention seeking. You don't agree to be photographed for a magazine called Slitz, without knowing you'll get noticed - ditto reality TV.

Regarding their relationship, I think its too early to move in together (I'm the same age as Sofia so I'm not a dinosaur!). As Zonk said, moving in together is a statement of intent, and even if CP and Sofia don't agree, they must see how it looks to others.

Also, Victoria and Daniel don't have kids yet. They're in their 30s, he has a long-term health issue and she has recovered from an eating disorder. The odds aren't massively in their favour. I hope they have kids, they so obviously are in love and want them, and (I think) would be amazing parents, but those things don't guarantee anything. It is too early for CP to disregard his position - see Belgium's recent history!

That is a massively disorganised post and I'm a bit sleepy, but I think my ideas are clear!
Sleepy or not, you've got some great comments that I happen to agree with. I actually didn't think about the whole Victoria & Daniel not having kids yet idea, but it makes perfect sense.
This whole idea of them as a couple and moving in together is very disturbing to me. She's just not "tripping my trigger" to put it nicely. And I would have a hard time thinking that his sisters and mother actually approve of her. But stranger things have happened.
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:17 AM
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These two are going way too fast.
Carl Philip is in this relationship with his eyes wide shut!
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Old 09-25-2010, 02:29 AM
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I wonder if the Count title is on the table for CP....if the powers have been have even discussed a possible future for CP and Sofia. Notice I never said the M word.

I think their relationship and possible future have most certainly been discussed. How could they not? I think its alot like politics over here- alot of public opinion polls, ramifications of this or that, what can they cover up or should they cover it up, the all important public image, etc.
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Old 09-25-2010, 11:37 AM
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I agree that they have moved in together very quickly.

It would have been good if they could have waited a while - if Victoria gets pregnant soon then the focus will move to the baby who will be the next generation allowing CP some more flexibility.

While he is still 2nd in line there will be focus on his relationship and the appropriateness of it particularly if Victoria and Daniel don't have children for a number of years.
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:53 PM
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^I agree.
I think that they have doing all this too fast. I mean, if I was in that situation in where i've been dating a guy for a few months, i wouldn't move with him right away. I don't know how do they see it. Apparently, they don't have any problem.
But i'm still thinking it's too fast. CP did lived with Emma some time, right? But they didn't move in together so soon, didn't they?
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Old 09-25-2010, 02:58 PM
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How long has CP dated Sofia? It's been about a year, I believe. That is moving very quickly. How it works out is anyone's guess.
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Sofia Hellqvist in South Africa to work at the charity project "Project Playground":
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Sofia Hellqvist in South Africa to work at the charity project "Project Playground":
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_twR_RR8SQQ...0/IMG_1465.jpg
The first time I saw this pic from an earlier post, something bothered me more than the strange "sweater" than shows one of her breasts. I couldn't figure it out until I looked at it again in your post. There is something very "artificial" about Sofia in this picture. Yes, she is casually dressed. But it looks like she is very camera-aware, posing, and placing her feet in a deliberate manner, like pageant girls do when posing in heels and a swimsuit. It looks very staged. But what disturbs me even more is the fact that she is just standing there...not engaged with the children at all, and she is supposed to there working for the charity and with the kids. She seems very disconnected. I know it's just one millisecond of time and just this one picture, but if she is trying to give the impression that she is all about her charity work, this photo may actually work against that.
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Well said Rascal!

It´s odd
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