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Old 09-08-2010, 04:56 PM
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DonnaK: Sofia's problem is not about topless pictures at a beach. It is about soft porn pictures in which she wears nothing but one hand between her spread legs and similar stuff. It is about her being proud to meet a (hard) porn queen. It is about her statements that she wants to be famous and will do all she can to become so. It is about one of these tv-shows where people degrade themselves to catch a bit of public attention. It is about the fact that foreign press calls her a porn model, they will continue doing so, because it sells.
People do sunbath topless nowadays and the press are always hanging around to catch somebody with the bikinitop off. So that would, in my eyes not make a person unaceptable.
But not when you are dating a crown prince, even a more liberal Danish queen didn't find her son's sunbathing topless girlfriends acceptable.
I agree it was not the same, one was hungry for fame, the other was pure stupidity. My point was that Sofia could also go back to school to brush up her resume now she is dating a prince, nothing new among the girlfriends or wives of the royals.
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Old 09-08-2010, 05:04 PM
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People do sunbath topless nowadays and the press are always hanging around to catch somebody with the bikinitop off.
Actually a lot of people do that.
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:05 AM
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Do what? Hang around to catch somebody with her bikini-top off?
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Old 09-09-2010, 08:17 AM
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I've thought about this for a while. Since I do not come from a similar background as the royals this is all speculation but this is how I imagine it might be.

The Swedish royal family is quite small and so is the nobility. Previously the royals have preferred to marry from other royal families or from other countries to prevent a situation where they would elevate one family above others or one subject above others (during modern times). Clearly this custom is not being followed anymore as we have seen. The King and Queen have wanted their children to be as normal and ordinary as possible while at the same time remembering they are not commoners and preferring their circle of friends to mainly consist of children of members of the nobility and wealthy families. They have of course allowed the children to have friends from other circles as well but the former have been preferred. I can understand that, although this has perhaps caused some problems when they have started to look for a spouse. I am not sure if the problems could have been prevented in any case considering their position.

Since the so-called 'upper class' (pardon my expression, I am well aware that Sweden is very much a country where class divisions do not exist and people are equal) is so small, the children have been in an awkward position not wanting to date their friends perhaps causing tensions in the circle of friends. They have perhaps noted during the years that some people in this 'upper class' (or some of their parents) also have aspirations to 'elevate their status' by marrying a royal or perhaps they have gotten bored with the whole lifestyle their friends live. This has maybe made them think that commoners are much more sincere and a better choice altogether. The problem is that they probably have a bit of a romanticized idea about the life of a commoner. Of course the Swedish royal family is much closer to the ordinary life than say the British, but they are still royals and live very differently from ordinary people. After all the publicity, galas etc. the life of a commoner might seem very interesting and relaxing to a royal. Their houses, every day life, the way they act and views on life might seem very refreshing and new. It is true, one might find a true gem from the most unexpected place (as happened to Victoria) but unfortunately I feel the royals might also be a bit too gullible sometimes not always noticing when there's a commoner who seems sincere but is trying to 'elevate his/her status' by bagging a royal.

Maybe Carl Philip is tired of being nice and wants to be bad boy for a while... I do hope he doesn't mistake Sofia for something she is not and make a mistake by marrying her. Of course you must choose the one you love but at the same time have the sense to evaluate whether it is the wise choice to be made.
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Old 09-13-2010, 12:20 PM
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Carl Philip and Sofia were at the nightclub Rose at the weekend with their friends. Before going to the nightclub they had been celebrating the 25th birthday of one of Sofia´s best friends.
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Old 09-13-2010, 01:11 PM
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Nu syns prins Carl Philip och Sofia Hellqvist allt mer ute tillsammans | Svensk Damtidning
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Old 09-13-2010, 04:34 PM
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Not wery discrete. Victoria and Daniel werent seen half as much as them three years into their relationship
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Old 09-13-2010, 06:06 PM
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She looks very plain in these pictures - minimal make-up, hair tied back. She's obviously trying to look more sophisticated and grown up. Not sure it works at a nightclub though......

Slightly off topic, I have to give special mention to Google translate for "This six ice on fire" Magic.
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Old 09-13-2010, 08:47 PM
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She looks very plain in these pictures - minimal make-up, hair tied back. She's obviously trying to look more sophisticated and grown up. Not sure it works at a nightclub though......

Slightly off topic, I have to give special mention to Google translate for "This six ice on fire" Magic.
This link provided by Marika86 and the response by MissP completely illustrates my point about this young woman. In previous pictures (even ones after the news about her and CP was leaked <by her, BTW>, Sofia styled her hair and makeup very similar to the ones where she posed for the men's magazine. And she sometimes even presented herself with even more "glamorous" makeup and hair. At this event, since she is trying to rehabilitate her reputation, she is wearing minimal makeup, has simple hair, and a more conservative gown. She is WWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY more attractive here and much sexier. IMO nothing is less sexy than someone trying (usually too hard) to look or be sexy. In these photos, I am actually more drawn to her eyes than in others because of all the trashy makeup and I hardly notice her snaggle teeth, whereas in the other photos she has worked so hard to be done up and put together, her teeth being in such a state sticks out like a sore thumb. Here they make her look natural and cute.

Maybe she and CP both buy into the media/society misrepresentation that men only want stripper/hooker/porn starlets with big boobs. If she wasn't of such questionable character and she has matured since posing for the pictures, why is this event the first time she DOESN't look like those photos?
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Old 09-13-2010, 11:39 PM
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Regular folks like me probably have a very unrealistic view of what it would be like to be a royal or to be a girlfriend/wife of a royal. It's a different world just as my world is to them. Can't totally comprehend it.

I love the pictures of the beautiful dressed and gowns that the female royals wear. They are used to wearing beautiful and well made clothing. In my lifetime I've only had three gowns (they were sewn by hand). This was so exciting to me. For someone who wears and purchases this type of clothing all the time, it probably no different than me going to JC Penny or Macy for purchasing clothing.

Perhaps it is the commoner's freedom that attacts royals to them. I can go out in my nightgown and get my newspaper in peace. No photographers jump out and try to get a picture of me nor am I bombarded with questions from the press.

I can go to the store, can go to a concert or go to a restaurant and not worry about being pestered or bothered by photographers, the press or others who just wants to be with me because I'm royal. I also don't worry about being in a park and a photographer sneaking up on me and taking a picture or hiding out somewhere to take my picture. Or coming unto my property and trying to take pictures. Or attempting to do so. For someone like me, this probably would be flattering at first but then it would get very very old rather quickly.
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Billed-Bladet - Carl Philip og Sofia springer ud som par
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Gossip?

I found this article > Royalty Online: [Sweden] Prince Carl Philip and controversial girlfriend share public kiss and posted it on my blog. But there is no picture to prove it. Seems there is a witch hunt against this young lady. Can't imagine how much she will have to endure and change to be accepted by all.
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I found this article > Royalty Online: [Sweden] Prince Carl Philip and controversial girlfriend share public kiss and posted it on my blog. But there is no picture to prove it. Seems there is a witch hunt against this young lady. Can't imagine how much she will have to endure and change to be accepted by all.
The couple, who have known each other for eighteen years

After reading this statement any credibility this article had flew right out the window, since they've only known each other for two years at the most. Also, there is indeed photographic evidence of the kiss, which was posted in an article (Aftonbladet, if memory serves me right) earlier in this thread.
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Old 09-15-2010, 10:25 PM
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You are right, Jonquil. Must be something like... 18 months at best! :)
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:37 AM
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Sofia is maximum tacky, she has as much Princess material as Lady Gaga.
Too bad for her that the Princess availability in Monaco is already taken, would have been her best shot.
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Sofia flew on Thursday to Capetown, where she will work for the charity project "Project playground", she will return to Sweden in October.
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Old 09-18-2010, 12:28 PM
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Does she, or her friend, have any experience in running a charity?

This has nothing to do with her dating a Prince, but her capabilities in running a charitable organization. I really dislike when people exploit 'the poor African/Asian/Middle Eastern' children for their own gains.

I really hope that she has a vested interested in this cause and isn't doing this just to make people think she's "suitable" or "princess material".

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Does she, or her friend, have any experience in running a charity?

This has nothing to do with her dating a Prince, but her capabilities in running a charitable organization. I really dislike when people exploit 'the poor African/Asian/Middle Eastern' children for their own gains.

I really hope that she has a vested interested in this cause and isn't doing this just to make people think she's "suitable" or "princess material".
Agreed, and it will be interesting to see if she continues with this charity throughout her life, regardless if she and the prince continue their relationship or not.
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Old 09-18-2010, 01:45 PM
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^That's what i would like to know too. What will happen to all that charity work that she is involved in suddenly, if her relationship with the prince is not succesful?
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They must have local people who support them, because neither of them could or would dare to go unguarded into a township.
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