Press Reports about Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist, Part 1: Jan. 2010 - April 2012

[CrownPrincess5]

I agree, but the frolicking with Jenna Jameson bothers me more than the photos. Jenna Jameson is about as debauched as it gets here in the US!!

The House of Bernadotte does not need Sophia..and if Carl-Philip does not agree he should renounce his title and go out into the world and get a job where he has to figure out how to make ends meet like the rest of the common folk he is apparently striving so hard to emulate.

After ten years of the daily grind of juggling mortgage payments, medical bills, etc..he can glance over at his lovely Mrs Bernadotte and ask himself if it was all worth it.

Enough is ENOUGH.

Yep, I'm in the US as well and Jenna Jameson is nothing but pure filth.

Here's the article where Sophia brags about it from her own mouth to Aftonbladet and how memorable it was :

"Paradise Hotel"-stjärnan Sofia Hellqvist kysstes med porrstjärnan | Dokusåpa | TV | Nöjesbladet | Aftonbladet

Sophia is pure trash.

Exactly. People don't understand how nasty Jenna Jameson is! Jenna has no respect for herself and I don't know anyone who respects her. Guys may wine and dine girls like her, but they're not the marrying, wife type.

Also, pictures taken of them every year for their husbands, boyfriends etc. And there is nothing wrong with that. We have no idea why Sofia had the pictures taken, but like I said I doubt she could predict that it would be held against her when she dated a Prince in the future.
I see nothing wrong with these pictures, that's what Sofia wanted to do then, so that was her choice.

You're kidding right??
How in the world can nude pictures be okay?? There is a lot wrong with it. I respect your opinion, but saying saying nothing's wrong with the pictures is ridiculous. Obviously Sofia herself feels the same way. Posing nude is not an acceptable way of life. Girls who do those things usually have a terrible past You make it seem like posing nude is okay...like it's a normal thing. Tell me something, are you okay with prostitution? Well whether anyone likes it or not, showing your body to the world is like prostitution. A womans body is beautiful...of course and it should be secretive, in other words it's not for the whole world to see. If a man sees two women, one who posed nude and the other who has respect for herself....I guarantee that this guy will mess and play around with the girl who posed nude, but he'll marry the other girl. I have lots of guy friends, and brothers, who tell me that.

I don't like the fact that the world says whats bad is good and what's good is bad. I wonder how we got here.

 

[Idriel]

If they are upset over the publication of those pics it means they also think they are vulgar and show how little dignity Sofia has. All posters should now stop saying that those pics are normal and there is nothing bad about them, because even CP and Sofia renounced to defend them and are ashamed of them.

No, they are upset because they well know that people like you will use these pictures to do an assassination of Sofia's character.
And how right have they proven to be.

As a parallel, Carla Bruni was also upset about nude pictures of her being published by the British press ahead of her first state visit to Britain, because she is fully aware things she said or did as Miss Bruni are not appropriate for the First Lady of France. Yet she has repeated in every interviews she has given that while she doesn't like how the pictures are exploited, she is not ashamed of them or of anything she did in her past.

Wow, It baffles me to see how some of the posters are saying the nude pics (porn pics mind you) are fine. That's ridiculous! Since when did posing nude become okay? It has never become okay because its not okay.

Your opinion, your standards. Millions of people think it's not acceptable to have sex before marriage and that women who do don't respect themselves and have no dignity. That doesn't make it universally accepted truth, thank god for that.
You think this is porn? A friendly advice: make sure you set your google search browser on 'safe' at all times.

I agree, but the frolicking with Jenna Jameson bothers me more than the photos.

Eww! So agreed, what was Sofia thinking?
Jenna is repulsive and I would not approach her without an Hazmat suit.

Anyway, this thread has just become too unpleasant.
I don't understand the amount of hatred and vitriol for a girl who has committed no crimes aside from some foolish choices when younger and isn't even given a chance! The moral self-righteousness is utterly insufferable too.

 

[CrownPrincess5]

Your opinion, your standards. Millions of people think it's not acceptable to have sex before marriage and that women who do don't respect themselves and have no dignity. That doesn't make it universally accepted truth, thank god for that.
You think this is porn? A friendly advice: make sure you set your google search browser on 'safe' at all times.

Anyway, this thread has just become too unpleasant.
I don't understand the amount of hatred and vitriol for a girl who has committed no crimes aside from some foolish choices when younger and isn't even given a chance! The moral self-righteousness is utterly insufferable too.

Sex before marriage is a whole other thing. There's a lot of reasons why it is better to wait for marriage, but that definitely doesn't mean people are waiting. The photos are porn...even if it's soft porn it's still porn. Thanks for the friendly advice.

Whoa whoa whoa wait a minute!! Speaking for myself, I do not hate her! Far from it. Hate is a big word to me and I don't think she derserves hatred. But her business is now in the open and that means people, including myself, will be commenting on it. Yes we all make foolish mistakes when young, but I don't know if Sofia is really all that sorry. How do we know she considers the photos, Jenna Jameson a mistake??

I don't think saying how you feel about something is being self-righteous. Saying that posing nude is wrong shouldn't make a person self righteous...it just says they have morals.

 

[SpeedDial]

Hi I am new to this forum and I think that the Swedish prince comes off as inmature and spoiled. I mean, he's 31 years old for crying out loud and everytime I read any Swedish paper he is partying; oh and sometimes studying. His new girlfriend is to me, an opportunist and if he does marry her and not renounce his title then I hope the Swedish people stand up and do something about it!

Welcome! I totally agree with you and many others have this same opinion as well. At 31 years old it's time to grow up and do something productive with your life rather than spending it racing cars, clubbing, going on holiday, and whatever other nonsense. This taking a class here and there stuff isn't really cutting it.

I don't understand the amount of hatred and vitriol for a girl who has committed no crimes aside from some foolish choices when younger and isn't even given a chance! The moral self-righteousness is utterly insufferable too.

Where did anybody say they hated her? People are just talking about reasons why they don't trust her and question her motives. It's not just the nude photos, but also her bragging to a newspaper about kissing a porn star, bragging on her Twitter late last year about dating CP, and the reality show to name a few examples. To many people, this seems like a woman who likes name-dropping and bragging and is an attention seeker. Swedish people have a right to not to want to have to support someone like that.

Why and how did the rumor begin that PCP is gay? Have there been interviews, photos, etc published as "proof?"

Maybe some Swedish or other European posters could help us here...?

The rumor I heard is that apparently there was apparently once a questionable picture of CP and Swedish singer Peter Jöback, but I've never been able to find the picture on the internet, so I took the rumor with a grain of salt.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

I do NOT hate Sophia. I do hate the idea of her as a member of the SRF.

The relaxing of standards among almost all of the European Royal Houses has set them on a slippery slope toward scorn and irrelevancy, in my opinion. Marrying someone you love is one thing...and marrying someone who does nothing to uphold the dignity of one's heritage and the mystique of the entire concept of Royalty is quite another.

I have a question for everyone who thinks we are being harsh and judgmental...where do YOU draw the line? Is a reformed prostitute or drug dealer okay...as long as they are "in love?" How about someone who once robbed banks, but has reformed?

Is being "in love" and reformed the only criteria that should be met for a potential Royal spouse?

I don't agree. And if that makes me "moralistic"...well...I DON'T CARE.

 

[Lakshmi]

I am not that surprised by Sofia pictures, knowing her past --from what I read at various royal boards. I see no excuse to nude pics, and yes, I think they are a big deal.
Carl Philip dating someone like Sofia, is it a new low for royals or it can be even worse? I think the worst would be if he actually marries her.
I just wonder if Carl Philip is looking just for amusement of some kind after dating for 10 years a classy woman like Emma. On the other hand this "amusement" with Sofia last about a year now...I hope it is not his rebellion, pleaase , the guy is over 30 y.o. now.
So, maybe it is just that after eating refined food, someone wants to try a fresh meat.
Time will tell...

 

[SpeedDial]

I do NOT hate Sophia. I do hate the idea of her as a member of the SRF.

The relaxing of standards among almost all of the European Royal Houses has set them on a slippery slope toward scorn and irrelevancy, in my opinion. Marrying someone you love is one thing...and marrying someone who does nothing to uphold the dignity of one's heritage and the mystique of the entire concept of Royalty is quite another.

I have a question for everyone who thinks we are being harsh and judgmental...where do YOU draw the line? Is a reformed prostitute or drug dealer okay...as long as they are "in love?" How about someone who once robbed banks, but has reformed?

Is being "in love" and reformed the only criteria that should be met for a potential Royal spouse?

I don't agree. And if that makes me "moralistic"...well...I DON'T CARE.

That's what I want to know. If traditions and rules are going to just keep getting thrown out the window, why even bother having royalty? I thought the whole point of royalty was to keep the history and traditions alive and represent the country in a positive way and give citizens something to look up to and admire. There's is not much admiral about what is going on these days, especially with the SRF.

At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if the Swedish monarchy is abolished within 10 years.

 

[CrownPrincess5]

I do NOT hate Sophia. I do hate the idea of her as a member of the SRF.

The relaxing of standards among almost all of the European Royal Houses has set them on a slippery slope toward scorn and irrelevancy, in my opinion. Marrying someone you love is one thing...and marrying someone who does nothing to uphold the dignity of one's heritage and the mystique of the entire concept of Royalty is quite another.

I have a question for everyone who thinks we are being harsh and judgmental...where do YOU draw the line? Is a reformed prostitute or drug dealer okay...as long as they are "in love?" How about someone who once robbed banks, but has reformed?

Is being "in love" and reformed the only criteria that should be met for a potential Royal spouse?

I don't agree. And if that makes me "moralistic"...well...I DON'T CARE.

Wow, I'm definitely in agreement with you. You said it better than I could.

That's what I want to know. If traditions and rules are going to just keep getting thrown out the window, why even bother having royalty? I thought the whole point of royalty was to keep the history and traditions alive and represent the country in a positive way and give citizens something to look up to and admire. There's is not much admiral about what is going on these days, especially with the SRF.

At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if the Swedish monarchy is abolished within 10 years.

Exactly.
I don't even have to say anything...You and Moonmaiden said it all.

 

[amedea]

No, they are upset because they well know that people like you will use these pictures to do an assassination of Sofia's character.
And how right have they proven to be.

So what? Sofia doing those pics knew that "people like me" would "do an assassination of her character". Why to be upset now?
Dirty pics like Sofia's ones have a market value because not many girls are ok with "being assasinated" by "people like me" or because they just are "people like me". So Sofia made cash from that. Too late to be upset.
This is the problem of selling rights of exploitation of your image, but since the law allow people to do that, if you sell them, you have to accept consequences.
It's like selling a grandmother tiara for buying a one year holyday and at the end of the holyday being upset because you don't have your grandmother tiara anymore or because you don't like how the buyer is using it..

Moonmaiden23, I could also subscribe your post!

 

[Lorette]

It is not the thread that has become unpleasant, but Prince CP's love life. There are many many pictures of the girl in the nude or very little garb. There is the TV thing she was in, there are things she said - it is not just an "error when one is young" but a pattern which shows she has no moral standards and is very likely totaly insecure. This kind of comments will not end, as long as she is in the public eye, as nude pics will always sell glossy magazines, if not in Sweden, then abroad. And anything on the internet stays on. Google Sofia Hellquist, and you are in the midst of cheap photos. What healty man would want to marry a woman, who has been the plaything of countless man, if only in the privacy of their bathroom? And if she found somebody to rescue her and wanting to give her a good life, it better be somebody who is not in the focus of the press, which will hurt her again and again.

 

[janb]

...At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if the Swedish monarchy is abolished within 10 years.

I would be very surpised if it is. Give it 15 to 20 and it is a real, but faint possibility.

 

[Iva]

At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if the Swedish monarchy is abolished within 10 years.

I'd be very surprised if that happend, one troublesome prince is not enough to do so.

Well as most of you, at the moment, I'm not too keen on seeing Sofia as a member of SRF. I remeber watching a document about Victoria & Daniel before their wedding (I think it was from German ZDF), there was said that the King and Queen have a very good sense of what the swedish people are willing to accept, in regards to the partner choices of their children. I'd like to know what they think about Sofia. Carl-Philip might love her, but at the moment I don't think she's someone that will be accepted by the people. Thanks to the negative media coverage, her past is catching her and it does not matter if she regrets what she did or not. Time will tell what happens, if CP hormones calm down and he finds out that it was a nice "fling" but it's time to search for someone with whom he can start a family and who can represent Sweden or if Sofia is really worth it and they are willing to take the road of Victoria & Daniel and fight for their love.

 

[LadyFinn]

Photos:
Prince Carl Philip and his girlfriend Sofia Hellqvist the restaurant Pepe's in Bastad, at the westcoast of Sweden. According to witnesses they ate a romantic dinner and looked very in love with eachother. Around 21.30 o'clock they came to Pepe's, holding hands. They were seated furthest into the corner of the restaurant, separated from the other gusets around a table with sofas. They got more intimate as the night went on. During the summer the prince and Sofia have stopped to avoid to show their love to the press, and other guests at the restaurant said it looked like true love between the two.
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[Lulu_tka]

on photos they don't look like a romantic couple! it looks like more friends meet than a romantic dinner!!!

 

[Lorette]

I also do not see the romance. Plus, I am afraid, the girl's got ugly teeth. Well at least one can do something about that.
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[Anne83]

One of the 3 siblings must marry into royalty
There is danger for the Swedish Monarchy SpeedDial is right
Victoria married a commoner She made a mistake that can't be corrected that easily
Now Carl Philip and Madeleine must be careful with their future partner

 

[marie45se]

I still don´t like Sofia I still hope they will break up but the worst part is the more people want them to break up the more closer they will get if we look on the past when people are against that couple (like MM and HM of Norway, Wallis Simpson and George and so on)they grew closer.

 

[AshleyAthena]

My feelings about Sofia aside, I don't trust her becuase someone is leaking all these photos of them out and about to the press. Since we never see CP unless he's with her, either he never leaves the house unless he's with Sofia or at an offical function, she's leaking the info, or she has untrustworthy people in her life who she really should cut out of it.

 

[Anne83]

If Victoria has children with Daniel, then it's over
She should give up her CP title and then Carl Philip must marry into royalty and become King
Beatrice of York or Theodora of Greece would be the most suitable brides
I prefer the latter

 

[Lorette]

Anne83: what's wrong with the swedish royal family finally having a few swedish genes in their pool? And do you not think that the swedish people who write here can judge the situation better than someone in Atlanta? After all, old Bernadotte was not a Royal himself, far from it. So the swedish people seem to have a tradition of pragmatic choices. Besides, while Viktoria obviously has had an education to prepare her to be queen and takes the matter very serious, her siblings seem a far cry from the capability of putting themselves in the service of their country for the rest of their lives.
I like Mette-Marit. She might have a past, but she has a very winning present and the future looks bright for her. I only have problems with Sofia because she looks and behaves totally superficial. The problem with a woman who goes for making a living out of her physical attributes is that she usually is not getting herself some character traits which are very valuable in the long run. 'Cause sexyness is not a lasting characteristic.

 

[Anne83]

Future Monarchs who respect the Monarchy and themselves marry into Royalty
The Norwegian Monarchy isn't abolished yet but they didn't gain any more popularity from Haakon's choice to marry an ex-drug addict.

 

[Nathalie Cox]

^So...none of the future monarchs respect monarchy, according to you. Because we have:
Haakon with MM
Frederik with Mary
W-A with Maxima
Felipe with Letizia

and so on...

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

^So...none of the future monarchs respect monarchy, according to you. Because we have:
Haakon with MM
Frederik with Mary
W-A with Maxima
Felipe with Letizia

and so on...

When there is no difference anymore between "Royals" who represent the country on taxpayer's money and any ordinary citizen monarchy will become obsolete and will be abolished. MM already lowered the standard and if this doesnt stay a one off but will be business as usual with fitness instructors or pin up girls becoming HRH's, people will say at some point "wait a minute". Not today, not tomorrow, very likely not in our generation but I doubt all of the present ruler's heir grandchildren will actually take to the throne.

But back to topic - CP wont do anyone a favour if he should indeed stay with Sofia. She would be a big step towards the downfall of monarchies in general, another level of "low" after what we have already seen.

 

[Lola]

If Victoria has children with Daniel, then it's over
She should give up her CP title and then Carl Philip must marry into royalty and become King
Beatrice of York or Theodora of Greece would be the most suitable brides
I prefer the latter

You are fooling us, aren´t you?
Nothing would weaken the Monarchy more than to celebrate an expensive love wedding and to have said multiple times, how serious one is taking the task, just to step back, when children (the Monarchy´s base) arrive. Yes, then the 10 years SpeedDial was talking about are extremely likely.

And Beatrice?!? Why not a divorce from Daniel and a wedding with Prince Ernst August of Hannover. Hey, he is Royal after all.

Sorry, but a lack of commitment and the press (who would cover the prince cheating, because he doesn´t love his Royal wife) is the problem, but inbreeding is belonging to the past. Thankfully

And Mette Marit can´t complain about the 8%+ the RF had made in the 9 years with her as Crown Princess. If she would have been as awful as many had thought, popularity would have dropped more and wouldn´t have raised again.

When there is no difference anymore between "Royals" who represent the country on taxpayer's money and any ordinary citizen monarchy will become obsolete and will be abolished. MM already lowered the standard and if this doesnt stay a one off but will be business as usual with fitness instructors or pin up girls becoming HRH's, people will say at some point "wait a minute". Not today, not tomorrow, very likely not in our generation but I doubt all of the present ruler's heir grandchildren will actually take to the throne.

And if they take a look in their biology books, they will also say, wait a minute, isn´t it a bit unhealthy, if you marry your cousin, who is by genes already your brother.
The times are different. If they marry for education or title only, their unhappy marriages will be in the rags day for day for day.
And as we can see in Belgium. Mathilde is a sweet perfect noble wife, but obviously many Belgians find them "too boring".
What I want is decent people with humour, who do their job and who don´t just marry for status or money. And I guess this is something most agree on.

 

[Lorette]

Well Beatrice's mother is not quite a royal born, is she? Whereas Diana was, but it did not help very much. Changing times do not stop at the palace door, the royal blood still might not help someone endure an unhappy marriage. In the old days, Kings and Princes would have affairs and illegitim children without the press covering their every move. And the women simply did not have to say much, noble or not.
I think most royal parents prefer their childern to be in a stable marriage with someone suitable but not blue blooded than to have constant scandal. Now, and that is my point, I think that in case of unhappiness and (godforbid!) divorce, Prince Daniel would still be discreet and loyal, while I have serious doubts about Sofia in that respect. But then there is Fergie....

 

[SpeedDial]

I'd be very surprised if that happend, one troublesome prince is not enough to do so.

I'm not saying this CP/Sofia mess will be the cause of it, but it will certainly be one more reason for the Swedish people to be fed up more than they already are. Look at that recent poll that was done where less than half of the people surveyed like the monarchy. I can't say I blame them at the rate it's going.

 

[amedea]

And if they take a look in their biology books, they will also say, wait a minute, isn´t it a bit unhealthy, if you marry your cousin, who is by genes already your brother.
The times are different. If they marry for education or title only, their unhappy marriages will be in the rags day for day for day.
And as we can see in Belgium. Mathilde is a sweet perfect noble wife, but obviously many Belgians find them "too boring".
What I want is decent people with humour, who do their job and who don´t just marry for status or money. And I guess this is something most agree on.

1- I think the inbreeding thing is seen by many people nowadays as a bigger problem that it actually is. It became a problem when there was several marriages between first cousins whose children married first cousins etc..
If you marry second cousins or so probability of something bad happening are low, just as having children after 40 or so.. In the european royal families there are hundreds of examples of extremely healthy and good looking children of parents that were related between them (just thinks to the children of Marie Astrid and Margarete of Luxemburg).

2- Isn't this too much?? I don't understand people that accept CP dating Sofia but implying she's better that the delightful Mathilde of Belgium seems really crazy to me! So what?? Should Mathilde pose naked with a snake to be less boring?? Thankfully it's not true people find her boring, actually everybody likes her: a recent survey proclamed her the most popular member of the Royal Family.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

If Victoria has children with Daniel, then it's over
She should give up her CP title and then Carl Philip must marry into royalty and become King
Beatrice of York or Theodora of Greece would be the most suitable brides
I prefer the latter

Daniel-now Prince of Sweden-might be born a commoner. But he has conducted himself with nothing but dignity and made an honest living for himself long before he met CP Victoria-to whom he seems genuinely devoted.

And no one except his wife knows what he looks naked!

At first I had doubts about him...since Victoria's father married a non-Royal I had hopes that the Crown Princess would infuse some aristocratic blood into the Royal House...she did not, but that is okay...I think Daniel will prove to be a real asset to his new wife and to Sweden.

There is a big, BIG difference between being a commoner and being simply common!

 

[Fürstin Taxis]

For me it´s the education and behave, which makes you noble. And Sofie is in my opinion not well educated or discreet.

 

[Anne83]

Right, Nathalie Cox
All these Crown Princes made bad choices
I wouldn't want any of them as my King