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Old 02-06-2015, 10:02 AM
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i don't think so. he declined a title, and for a title he would have needed the swedish citizenship. if he now becomes a swede, people will ask why he didnt accept the citizenship in the first place. and why he still does not want a title despite becoming a swede now.
i don't think he will change his citizenship. he can live in sweden forever with a european passport.
Hmm... I just assumed. He might wait a few years though.
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Old 02-06-2015, 10:21 AM
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A spouse of a Swedish citizen must have lived in Sweden for three years to apply for Swedish citizenship.

You must have lived in Sweden for a certain period - Swedish Migration Board [NS4 version]
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Old 02-06-2015, 10:23 AM
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A spouse of a Swedish citizen must have lived in Sweden for three years to apply for Swedish citizenship.

You must have lived in Sweden for a certain period - Swedish Migration Board [NS4 version]
Ok.... As I said, I know nothing of this. I have never moved in or out of Sweden (or any other country for that matter)
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Old 02-06-2015, 10:30 AM
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I thought the website might be helpful to the discussion.
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Old 02-06-2015, 10:32 AM
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Old 02-06-2015, 04:56 PM
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Well I hope it isn't for tax reasons and Chris gives them any reason to question it It's a good time to come home with another baby on the way


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Leonore must be raised in Sweden to be in the line of succession. As V has only the one child at the moment and CP none, that makes Leonore the 'spare' as on now.
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Old 02-07-2015, 03:10 AM
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i don't think so. he declined a title, and for a title he would have needed the swedish citizenship. if he now becomes a swede, people will ask why he didnt accept the citizenship in the first place. and why he still does not want a title despite becoming a swede now.
i don't think he will change his citizenship. he can live in sweden forever with a european passport.
I agree. If he would suddenly want the title and the citizenship, the people and especially the gossip press would think that he is in a big trouble. Already now the people write to Facebooks and to Svensk Damtidning forum that Chris isn't as rich as people think and that they live on Madeleine's money.

Expressen surely digs up everything possible.
Expressen tells that by registering herself to Sweden Madeleine saves from 50000 to 80000 SEK when giving birth in Sweden.
If Madeleine had continued to be written in the United States and New York when giving birth, she would have had to pay for the birth:
- A birth without complications costs at a hospital in Stockholm around 50000 SEK for a Swede living abroad. A cesarean around 80000 SEK. If you are a Swede living abroad and want to give birth in Sweden you have to pay for this care, explains Michael Bloom from Stockholm Care.
Stockholm Care is a company owned by the county council and the company's mission is to help hospitals managing the planned care such as a birth.
Chris och Madde flyttar till Sverige Nyheter Expressen
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Will they be living at the just renovated apartment at the Royal Mews, that is also interesting. Madeleine said in last May: "Villa Park on Djurgården was for a long time an option, but it is 900 square meters and certainly not a home if we do not live full time in Sweden".
http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/made...-missforstadd/
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Old 02-07-2015, 03:26 AM
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Yeah, cause THAT must be the reason.....
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Old 02-09-2015, 12:58 PM
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El Mundo writes about Madeleine visiting many times in London looking for a home from Belgravia, Chelsea, Kensington and Mayfair.
Magdalena de Suecia busca casa lujosa en Londres loc EL MUNDO
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I'm sure they will have a house in both places.
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Old 02-11-2015, 04:20 AM
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Svensk Damtidning claims to have got in to Chris's private Spotify-lists.
Chris O’Neills privata kärlekslåtar… Svensk Damtidning
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Old 02-11-2015, 04:24 AM
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Svensk Damtidning claims to have got in to Chris's private Spotify-lists.
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Well, that's rude... and illegal?
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Old 02-11-2015, 04:35 AM
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Unethical at the very least.
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Old 02-11-2015, 04:51 AM
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Aside for the many critics Madeleine receives for being cold, (or snob as someone called her) I still repeat this: M&C don't court the press, therefore they get these disgusting haunt IMO.
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Old 02-11-2015, 04:57 AM
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tomorrow we'll read that he listens to 'talkin' bout a revolution' or 'burning down the house'
seriously, its one thing to critizise but another to stalk or even break the law.
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Old 02-11-2015, 05:51 AM
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tomorrow we'll read that he listens to 'talkin' bout a revolution' or 'burning down the house'
seriously, its one thing to critizise but another to stalk or even break the law.
I agree. This is really crossing a line.. A relatively innocent line in the matter of content, but definitely a line!
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I dont know if they want this marriage to end or they will be happy when/M gives up her title.
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Old 02-14-2015, 01:54 AM
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Chris's secret big loan
Chris O'Neill loaned eleven million SEK from a private bank in the United States. Just weeks before, he had founded a company to borrow money and be able to buy a house for nearly 18 million.
Just over a year later the loan vanished without a trace - it had been redeemed by a company controlled by the tax haven of Belize.
Expressen's documents show that Princess Madeleine's husband has signed all agreements.

Chris O'Neill and his family owned holiday home in Palm Beach already when he met Madeleine. It is located in one of the more exclusive areas and last year when Leonore was newborn family spent several months in Florida at maternity and paternity leave. Official pictures of the couple and their newborn daughter are also taken inside the garden of the summer house.
Four years after his father's death, Chris O'Neill signed a loan agreement with the Lydian Private Bank in Palm Beach in Florida. The documents Expressen can publish show that Chris borrowed almost eleven million from the bank. Through his company Bahama Beach Holdings, registered in both Florida and New York, Chris on 3 July 2008 took the million loan.
Less than a month earlier, on June 11th, the company had been formed in Florida, even his brother in law Ernst Abensperg und Traun is with Chris at the company.
Shortly after the loan the holiday home in Palm Beach was purchased with 17.6 million. The documents reveal that Chris O'Neill is the only signatory for the loan. Previously, he answered to Expressen to the question if he owns the house alone:
- I have a minority stake.
The company Bahama Beach Holdings is owned by Wildfire Inc, a company based in the tax haven of Belize. The company is known as a letterbox with just a mailing address and no physical office.
Who is the principal owner of the offshore company is not clear, but it is clear that Chris O'Neill has the trust to be ceo of it's subsidiary Bahama Beach Holdings. He stands in the documents beside the parent company Wildfire as signatories.
After the house was bought Chris applied Palm Beach County for authorization to do major renovations on the house. On 5 August 2008, the application was submitted and shortly after the renovation was finished, the big loan of eleven million was paid back to the bank. It was Chris's company Bahama Beach Holdings, which accounted for payment.
Expressen has several days searched Chris O'Neill through Margaret Thorgren to give him a chance to comment on the economy and companies in tax havens Liechtenstein and now Belize, but without success.
Chris hemliga storlån Nyheter Expressen
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Old 02-14-2015, 02:19 AM
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It will be hard for Chris to get rid of the 'shady banker' image that now has been given by the press. Banking defo has shady aspects that helped the crash of the financial industry. Of course the bill was footed by governments and taxpayers. Its a sensitive issue and we don't now if Chris made money out of shady businesses. Fact is that taxhavens will dry out, at least in Europe, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, tax evasion will be dried out.

If Chris operates or has been operating in a grey/morally questionable area, or the image of doing so will stick with him, it's worse and much less forgiving than modelling in the nude or being lazy in the eyes of the public.
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Old 02-14-2015, 04:00 AM
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If Chris operates or has been operating in a grey/morally questionable area, or the image of doing so will stick with him, it's worse and much less forgiving than modelling in the nude or being lazy in the eyes of the public.
This is amusing. Because we know that it is very sexist at it's core. If Chris had been guilty of modeling in the nude, he never would have gotten within miles of Madeleine. Or if they had an affair the king would never have given permission for a marriage. That's the way of it. That's my opinion. As it is Chris was dinged for being a 'playboy'. That someone else about to join the SRF was a 'playgirl' has not mattered one whit. Approval or not, care or not one whit about any of it, there is a double standard operating. It's interesting to watch.
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