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Old 05-29-2005, 05:43 AM
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Maybe there is another reason why she thinks it is child abuse to tell PHussein that he will be the next king. Maybe they want someone else in their family to be king.

But you know I can't feel sorry for QN in that she probably won't be the Queen's mother. She should have knownw what she was getting into. She should have seen this in the future. Her sons were the youngest sons.


well , i agree with you , for QN again as you farm as you reap , she did everything to make her son the CP , but now she is facing what she made others face , so i think this is fair enough
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Old 05-29-2005, 06:02 AM
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Yes..But I think this is a twisted answer to justify some actions. To say that raising crown princes/princesses to be kings/queens is kind of child abuse is also like accusing all the other royal families of the world of such thing because most of the times in those families, crown prince/princess is nominated since birth and raised to be king or queen. I am sure those families are aware that a crown prince/princess is to live their childhood while at the same time getting prepared to be king or queen. .. At least those royal families avoid the mess of throne succession as it is the case in Jordan.


Rania will do anything to take a shot from the Camera, for sure she will take the advantage from such a thing
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Old 05-29-2005, 03:34 PM
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is it normal for them to have a regent when the king is abroad? i don't think Charles became regent when QEII was in Canada
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Old 05-29-2005, 04:37 PM
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is it normal for them to have a regent when the king is abroad? i don't think Charles became regent when QEII was in Canada
Jordan always has a regent when KA leaves. In England, the PM is really head of govt, not the Queen.
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Old 05-29-2005, 09:29 PM
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Exclamation Rumors in Amman

there are rumors in Amman these days:
  • that KA cut his London trip as there were some Military officials who were trying "coup d'etat" in favor of princes Hassan and Hamza.
  • that KA initialy flew to London to end a misunderstanding between Haya and Mo who is in London also.
Not sure to what extent this is true.
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Old 05-29-2005, 09:32 PM
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The first one I doubt; the second one I'm curious as to why KA would care that much but I could see that.
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I doubt the first one too. But the second one could be because of a number of possibilities. One may that Haya was offended cuz they are renaming something that used to be named after QA; the other b/c maybe, just maybe (whisper) PHaya and SheikhMo are getting a divorce and KA is trying to intervene. Oooooo...Gosh I wish I were in Jordan to spread this one.
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Old 05-29-2005, 09:58 PM
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I think it's interesting P Haya and Mo have not had a pregnancy yet, so that makes me think it could be true.
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Old 05-30-2005, 02:18 AM
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there are rumors in Amman these days:

  • that KA cut his London trip as there were some Military officials who were trying "coup d'etat" in favor of princes Hassan and Hamza.
Not sure to what extent this is true.
As much as I would like to see better and stronger leadership in Jordan, I don't think this first rumor is true. For one thing, it would be unconstitutional for P. Hamzah to succeed a King Hassan. The latter could only name his brother P. Mohammad (who is ill, so not likely to be named) or his son P. Rashid as C.P. Most of the powers that be in Jordan are well aware of this constitutional requirement.

Also, here's the original announcement:

From The Jordan Times

King, Queen leave for UK

Their Majesties King Abdullah and Queen Rania on Wednesday left for London on a several-day private visit. HRH Prince Feisal was sworn in as Regent before the Council of Ministers — Petra


Thursday, May 26, 2005

The trip was never intended to last more than "several" days, which is how long it lasted. So, on these bases alone, this rumor seems false.

But, if there ever is a King Hassan of Jordan, I'll be the first one out dancing in the streets.
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Old 05-30-2005, 04:06 AM
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The last thing the ME needs is another problem. King Abdullah may not be perfect but the throne is his right as it is of his son Hussein. If P. Hassan or P. Hamzah ever came to the throne through a coup it wouldnt be saying much for either of them or for those who would think of supporting something like that. I think those two men are better than that.
I think we all know how rumours about the JRF get out of hand.
So I dont think there's any truth to them. KA and QR make very frequent trips to the UK, Rania called it their second home in her recent Hello interview.
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Old 05-30-2005, 05:51 AM
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there are rumors in Amman these days:
  • that KA cut his London trip as there were some Military officials who were trying "coup d'etat" in favor of princes Hassan and Hamza.
  • that KA initialy flew to London to end a misunderstanding between Haya and Mo who is in London also.
Not sure to what extent this is true.
about the first,when shah and queen of iran suddenly left the country without a reason so many suspected a coup d'etat,and later it was revealed that the rumor was rather true,but KA and QR's trip was so short that this rumor cant possibly be true.
about the second guess,i'd say he neednt Rania to make up the relation between haya and MO,unless she wasnt there for shopping or haircut or etc... i can find no reason for QR's departure.
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Old 05-30-2005, 03:58 PM
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As much as I would like to see better and stronger leadership in Jordan, I don't think this first rumor is true. For one thing, it would be unconstitutional for P. Hamzah to succeed a King Hassan. The latter could only name his brother P. Mohammad (who is ill, so not likely to be named) or his son P. Rashid as C.P. Most of the powers that be in Jordan are well aware of this constitutional requirement.

Also, here's the original announcement:

From The Jordan Times

King, Queen leave for UK

Their Majesties King Abdullah and Queen Rania on Wednesday left for London on a several-day private visit. HRH Prince Feisal was sworn in as Regent before the Council of Ministers — Petra


Thursday, May 26, 2005


The trip was never intended to last more than "several" days, which is how long it lasted. So, on these bases alone, this rumor seems false.

But, if there ever is a King Hassan of Jordan, I'll be the first one out dancing in the streets.
I really think that this sort of speculation is dangerous and irresponsible. One thing Prince Hassan has shown time and again is that he puts loyalty above everything. He was absolutely loyal to his brother when the late king was increasingly out of the country for longer and longer periods of time, leaving the Prince in sole charge and giving him many opportunities to 'take' over if he been so inclined ( think Oman and Qatar and Abu Dhabi ). In 1999, I am sure there were things that Prince Hassan could have said or done to upset the applecart but he behaved with complete dignity and loyalty, both to the king and to the state of Jordan. This was a short public holiday and I think the king and his wife decided to take advnatage of this. Pure and simple.
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At this point in time, when KA is out of the country, who exactly is in charge--not just of day to day activities but if something, God forbid, happened that was a real crisis? Feisal? A combination of JRF members and politicians? I am unclear about who handles the reins while the King is out of the country.
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Whatever Happened With the Assassination Attempt?

Three years ago, QR and KA and family were on a yacht for a private vacation in the Mediterranian, I believe. A small boat filled with explosives was intercepted before it could reach their yacht but the intent was clear and the Jordanian government confirmed it, KA and his family had been the target of an assassination attempt. There was speculation al Qaeda had been behind it but that's all I heard. I never heard subsequently if the people behind this act were caught, who they were and what happened. Did anyone hear more about it beyond the fact I'm sure security for KA and his wife and children was beefed up significantly. Whatever one's feelings about KA's governing powers, why did he hit someone's radar list as a good target? And why on earth would you target someone's entire family, including small children? I know, terrorists don't care who they kill; just seemed odd that nothing more was said about this.
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I really think that this sort of speculation is dangerous and irresponsible. One thing Prince Hassan has shown time and again is that he puts loyalty above everything. He was absolutely loyal to his brother when the late king was increasingly out of the country for longer and longer periods of time, leaving the Prince in sole charge and giving him many opportunities to 'take' over if he been so inclined ( think Oman and Qatar and Abu Dhabi ). In 1999, I am sure there were things that Prince Hassan could have said or done to upset the applecart but he behaved with complete dignity and loyalty, both to the king and to the state of Jordan. This was a short public holiday and I think the king and his wife decided to take advnatage of this. Pure and simple.
You are right.
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At this point in time, when KA is out of the country, who exactly is in charge--not just of day to day activities but if something, God forbid, happened that was a real crisis? Feisal? A combination of JRF members and politicians? I am unclear about who handles the reins while the King is out of the country.
well isnt that why they have a regent sworn in every time the King leaves the country?
I assume KA has made provisions for that sort of thing. I wouldnt expect that information to be made public.
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Three years ago, QR and KA and family were on a yacht for a private vacation in the Mediterranian, I believe. A small boat filled with explosives was intercepted before it could reach their yacht but the intent was clear and the Jordanian government confirmed it, KA and his family had been the target of an assassination attempt. There was speculation al Qaeda had been behind it but that's all I heard. I never heard subsequently if the people behind this act were caught, who they were and what happened. Did anyone hear more about it beyond the fact I'm sure security for KA and his wife and children was beefed up significantly. Whatever one's feelings about KA's governing powers, why did he hit someone's radar list as a good target? And why on earth would you target someone's entire family, including small children? I know, terrorists don't care who they kill; just seemed odd that nothing more was said about this.
once again, I wouldnt expect KA to publicize incidents like that. For an absolute monarch who wishes to portray stability it would be highly unusual to admit to something like that. It would be an admission of vulnerability.
As for who would do something like that, there are plenty of terrorists out to kill anyone who is an ally of the US ie, Osama bin Laden and the Saudi royals.
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YEah. He probably wants to portray life as normal. I think that is a good message to send.
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Queen Rania ranks 3rd in list of world's 100 most beautiful women.

Tuesday May 31
Brunettes top 'most beautiful' list


Brunettes have won over blondes in a list of the world's 100 most beautiful women.

The top five in the Harpers & Queen magazine list, compiled by 1,000 experts from the worlds of fashion, arts and the media, are brunettes.

Hollywood beauty Angelina Jolie topped the poll, followed by supermodel Christy Turlington,
Queen Rania of Jordan, film director Sofia Coppola and domestic goddess Nigella Lawson.

Blondes such as supermodel Kate Moss, Kill Bill star Uma Thurman and Lost in Translation star Scarlett Johansson are in the top 100, but have been relegated out of the top five.

Harpers & Queen editor Lucy Yeomans said: "We were really surprised when the brunettes came out on top.

"But from our panel results, we witnessed a definite shift away from the traditionally deified blonde stereotype.

"We encouraged people to vote on the all-round package, rather than on physical beauty alone, so it was great to see less obvious beauties such as film director Sofia Coppola making the top five."

Aishwarya Rai, the Indian actress who played the lead in Bride and Prejudice, is ninth in the poll of the 100 Most Beautiful Women of Today.

British actress Charlotte Rampling, 60, who recently hit out at the "barbaric" ageism of Hollywood, is 11th, followed by Beyonce, the Destiny's Child star 37 years her junior. Statuesque blonde actress Cate Blanchett is 13th, followed by another blonde - Johansson - and Ziyi Zhang, the Beijing-born star of House of Flying Daggers. Model Sophie Dahl is 16th, before Star Wars actress Natalie Portman, a brunette.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050531/344/fk3yf.html
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