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Old 02-07-2011, 03:21 PM
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it will and it should , its only logical.

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The New York Times has posted a piece about the Bedouin statement. I believe the bit about the farmland is new.

"The statement mentioned those concerns, calling on Abdullah to return farmlands rumored to have ended up in the hands of the queen’s family. Referring to a lavish party she threw in September in southern Jordan for her 40th birthday, it said, “We reject outrageous birthdays that come at the expense of the poor and the treasury.”"

Rare Attack on Jordanian Queen Heightens Soccer Tensions
From a blog, I believe

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Old 02-08-2011, 02:34 PM
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I didn't know that King Abdullah is Real Madrid fan. Would know what Prince Hussein says about it ...

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Old 02-08-2011, 06:09 PM
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Oh, one less monarchy in the world?

Should we say goodbye to Queen Rania?
Old 02-08-2011, 07:54 PM
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I doubt it, that sentiment is not shared by the majority of Jordanians.

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. . . Jordan is another matter. While Jordanians are gathering in the cities to complain against high prices and poor education, few that live in or know Jordan believe that this will amount to anything resembling the Tunisian or Egyptian uprisings.

Here's an article, basically reiterating what I said in my last post:

The 36 tribal leaders attacked Queen Rania's Palestinian origins and said she was "building power centres for her own interests".

. . .The tribes, from Jordan's East Bank, are usually supportive of the Hashemite monarchy, with members holding important positions in the military and government.

Queen Rania is of Palestinian, or West Bank, origin, like the majority of Jordanians. She has a prominent profile and has been supportive of women's rights.BBC News - Jordan tribes criticise Queen Rania's 'political role'

We all know she has no political role. But over the years Queen Rania has bypassed the conservative stumbling blocks to her initiatives by building extensive partnerships with the private sector and that annoys them to no end. I think that if she stayed meekly behind-the-scenes, they'll be quite happy, that's being pointed out by the media as well. Political interference is being used as a smokescreen here.
Old 02-08-2011, 11:08 PM
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It's strange... Queen Rania has not showed up herself in Twitter since this news had come out. No tweet from her since 30th January.
Old 02-09-2011, 02:05 PM
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Queen Rania seemed such a woman of charity but now I have stopped to think: how she can have such a jet set life when people in Jordan are hungry?

I know she wants to look like an occidental Queen, but she is not. Princess Letizia, Princess Mary, for example, they live in rich countries where there is no poverty so loud as Jordan, so they can have all that luxury. Look at Lalla Salma, she at least wears clothes that are typical of her country. I don't see Rania doing the same.
Old 02-09-2011, 02:35 PM
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I fear for the King and Queen. And, I believe their situation could become very tenuous(sp?), very quickly. With the political state of Egypt (and probably Syria, next; and then a possible further escalation in Turkey) there is always a chance that greater unrest in Jordan may be possible. I hope not.
Old 02-09-2011, 03:30 PM
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Let's hope that the King and Queen remain safe: things are looking quite precarious for them from this distance.

I'm reluctant to comment too much as I don't know a lot about Middle East governments, but if it's true that the King refuses to allow his people to vote for their PM and government but insists on continuing to have the right to simply appoint them, then perhaps their majesties are insensitive to a rapidly changing political reality. In today's internet world it's very easy to see what's happening around the globe and how other people live and it's not surprising that a more democratic change is being demanded in many places.

As for the specific corruption complaints directed at the Queen and her family, I have no idea about their legitimacy. It's very concerning, however. True or not, it's worrying to read that imprisonment is the penalty for criticising the royal family.

Or perhaps it's wrong for us from the free world to assume that our democracies are the best, and only, way to live.

I wish the Jordanian people and their King and Queen everything that's good. I hope that their difficulties can be resolved without too much further disruption.
Old 02-09-2011, 03:55 PM
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I havent seen this is posted. But heres interesting links for the king and you see how the queen does get her voice heard politicaly its from the wikileaks site very interestin stuff.


and about the soccer game id not heard about it before:
Old 02-10-2011, 01:23 AM
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I've always had the impression of Queen Rania that she was a woman that a person wouldn't want to "mess with."

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I'm not that surprised Rania is being criticized. I always felt her jet-setting, lavish lifestyle while being Queen of a poor country would one day hurt her. Karma is what she could be experiencing.
Old 02-10-2011, 12:30 PM
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Old 02-10-2011, 01:56 PM
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I never liked the image that the Queen wants to show to western medias, which is based on appearence and looks...It's not because she is a fashionista, and she's everywhere that it means she's doing a good job.

Nowadays, jordanian people are showing their anger basically against her and her family "Al Yassine", which seems to be the jordanian "Taraboulssi".
According to this article, some notables made a request to the King to get back their lands tooken by Rania and her family.

L'essentiel Online - Les Jordaniens accusent la reine de corruption - Monde

We ask king Abdallah to order recovery by the Treasury of the grounds and of farms recorded in the name of the family Yassin (family of the Rania queen) whereas they are the property of the Jordanian people”, indicated an official statement signed by thirty-six personalities belonging to the large tribes. This text breaks a taboo in a country where the critics aiming at the royal family are liable three years of prison. No reaction could be obtained from the royal palace. The signatories of the document, pertaining to big families Bedouins, traditionally honest with the reigning family hachémite, estimate that Jordan “passes through a crisis of the capacity” According to them, it “will be early or late the target of a rising similar to Tunisia and Egypt” and they require “the judgement of corrupted which plundered the country, whatever they are and whatever their row and their importance”. “The events in Tunisia and Egypt gave courage to Jordanian to publicly say what they whisper since one moment”, an political analyst declared Jordanian yesterday. “The fear, so common among Arab people because of authoritarian regimes, changed camp, it is today in that of the leaders”.
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Old 02-10-2011, 03:21 PM
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It´s quite funny how they bash Rania, while for example the Saudis are really lavish, and not just the women.
And sorry, IMO it´s a gender thing. Rania is too emancipated for them.

(Don´t think that Turkey will have riots)

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Statement by the Royal Hashemite Court

Amman, Feb. 10(Petra)-- On 6th and 9th of February 2011, Agence France Presse (AFP) Jordan’s Bureau published articles making very serious and totally untrue allegations against Her Majesty Queen Rania Al Abdullah and Her Majesty's family, the Yasin family. These articles were mainly based on a statement made by 36 Jordanian individuals whom the AFP Bureau Chief Ms. Randa Habib wrongly described as "tribal leaders", and whom she inferred represented the tribal population of Jordan. Had Ms. Habib undertaken any investigation, she would have found that the 36 individuals are not leaders of the tribes to which they belong, and that they do not represent the tens of thousands of people from these proud Jordanian tribes; tribes that have always been dedicated to the well being of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

Her latest "report", "Jordan Tribes Break Taboo by Targeting Queen", contains serious allegations against Her Majesty Queen Rania Al Abdullah and the Yasin family, in which there is no truth whatsoever. Amongst several other false allegations, the "report" claims that land and farms belonging to the Jordanian people were given to the Yasin family. Land register in Jordan is public record, and yet Ms. Habib failed to investigate the allegation.

Ms. Habib also quoted rumours that Her Majesty’s office has helped over 78,000 Palestinians obtain Jordanian nationalities without verifying them. This is a false accusation. These rumours should have been checked with the Ministry of Interior, whose official records would have proven that they are totally baseless.

Earlier today, the Royal Hashemite Court sent, via Jordan’s Ambassador to France, a letter to the Chairman and CEO of Agence France Press in Paris, France. The letter condemns, in the strongest possible terms the completely erroneous and defamatory statements about Her Majesty Queen Rania Al Abdullah of Jordan. In particular, the Royal Hashemite Court objects to the basis of the stories which are not rooted in facts, but rather rely on hearsay, gossip, and unsubstantiated claims and also to the failure of Ms. Randa Habib to investigate the allegations quoted in her report.

The Royal Hashemite Court informed AFP that it reserves the right to pursue legal action against AFP and Ms. Randa Habib.

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Old 02-17-2011, 09:58 AM
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After a cleanup, the General News about King Abdullah, Queen Rania and Family thread is now reopened.

In regards to the allegations of corruption against Queen Rania, the Royal Court has issued a statement denying the allegations and reserving the right pursue legal action against AFP and the author. Therefore there is little that we can add to the topic. Members who have issues or concerns with the official statement should take them up with the Royal Jordanian Court.

News reports of King Abdullah's statements or actions regarding the current situation are relevant to the Forums but TRF is not the appropriate place to debate current or general political conditions in Jordan nor to pursue personal agendas.

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Old 02-23-2011, 06:21 PM
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Please note that all discussion regarding King Abdullah's book, should be posted here King Abdullah II: "Our Last Best Chance:The Pursuit of Peace in a Time of Peril" 2010 .



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Old 02-26-2011, 04:51 AM
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^^^ Very interesting articles indeed,but only time will tell what will become of the JRF!
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Old 02-26-2011, 06:34 AM
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hi all
i am jordanian girl from jordanian origins and the the people here in jordan want the king abdulla and there is nothing threatening the jordanian throne and as a jordanians we won't allow for something like this to happen.

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