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11-29-2007, 03:20 PM
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The RF must be really proud of their "catch" this year. This is the first time I have seen them publish pictures of them with the actual animals on display.
If i remmeber correctly, past pictures have shown the family either coming from or going to the hunt. But I don't ever remember seeing pictures of their catch on display.
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11-29-2007, 05:08 PM
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Ugh, poor deers can't even watch these pictures!
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11-29-2007, 07:57 PM
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Christian is such a little cutie, and is getting bigger by the day, it seems! He was so cute, with the apple in his hand. I'm glad the Mary chose a healthy snack for him; doesn't she do something with healthy eating? I think she said that Christian was already developing a big sweet tooth, back sometime when she was still pregnant. It's good that he's already learning that he should make good choices for snacks, and eat the tasty, but unhealthy things in moderation!
I'm guessing Isabella's a little too young to come out. Maybe we'll see her next year.
I'm really not bothered by the fact that Christian is with the dead animals. I'm not a hunter myself, but I do have tons of family that do, and I've been around dead animals since I was younger than Christian. I don't think that it will cause any "emotional disturbance" unless he was truly upset by them, but he actually seemed to be enjoying himself quite a bit. It's probably just his father's genes in him.
Frederik's pants are horrible, but they're made for hunting, so I'll let him off this time!  Henrik's hideous hat, however, that I have wanted to burn for ages and ages, does need to be dealt with!
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11-30-2007, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sesa
The RF must be really proud of their "catch" this year. This is the first time I have seen them publish pictures of them with the actual animals on display.
If i remmeber correctly, past pictures have shown the family either coming from or going to the hunt. But I don't ever remember seeing pictures of their catch on display.
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These pictures with the animals on display have always been seen in papers and magazines here, also when the late king Frederik was the host of these hunting parties.
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11-30-2007, 01:18 AM
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How strange that the normally lachrimose CPFrederik doesn't exhibit any emotion here!
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11-30-2007, 02:10 AM
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Are these camouflage trousers. The one he wore at his solo hunting event looked much more like one, more like a common hunting outfit.
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Yes those are camouflage pants. Here you can get baby clothes, purses etc as well. Not mind kind of pattern but it suits some.
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11-30-2007, 03:24 AM
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Well i hate the sport but i do know it is a passion for most of the royals, but i think such a public display is extremely inappropriate, i know they do it and fine whatever but they need to keep it at a somewhat low key thing. As for Christian there touching the deers...uhh, so wrong. Again i know this is his future but in my opinion that was a weird thing for mary and fred to let him do. I am a meat eater so i can't really speak to low of them because just because i don't hunt it really does not make a difference, but i really think such a public display is awful!
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11-30-2007, 05:32 AM
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I was just wondering if any Danish poster has read any critical comment on the pictures in newspapers and such? If such a thing would happen in my own country all hell would break loose, nature organisations, political parties and angry letters in newspapers and more of the sort.
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11-30-2007, 09:46 AM
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I was just wondering if any Danish poster has read any critical comment on the pictures in newspapers and such? If such a thing would happen in my own country all hell would break loose, nature organisations, political parties and angry letters in newspapers and more of the sort.
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I haven't seen any.
Doesn't the Dutch royals have hunts? I seem to remember that there were reports of Frederik and Mary attending one in Holland during their first year of marriage - and that WA hosted it? There were no pictures though.
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11-30-2007, 09:49 AM
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I just can't understand why people get angry and so on when they see Chr touching dead animals. My uncle is hunter and I and my cousins were just little when he show us dead animals and so on and i must say that it isn't scary - it was very interesting and something new and he told us much about hunting and so on. Why I talk all this is because I want to say that little children must get and want to know about this side of life too and it isn't scary.
You can see how interested in Christian is and how his eyes are shining. He is just child and he don't think that hunting is cruel and so on - he just watch these animals, people, torching and think how exciting this is. Despite how Mary is attitude about hunting she can't hide Chr away and do a face that there is no such thing.
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11-30-2007, 10:02 AM
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I was just wondering if any Danish poster has read any critical comment on the pictures in newspapers and such? If such a thing would happen in my own country all hell would break loose, nature organisations, political parties and angry letters in newspapers and more of the sort.
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I'm surprised that you say that, Marengo. I have a friend from Holland and he says that hunting is considered a rather lame pastime for aristocrats and he and his friends make fun of them...but its not something that he says people get enraged at.
In Europe, I believe hunting is more an aristocratic pursuit while in America it is not considered high class or high brow at all. In fact its considered rather redneck.
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11-30-2007, 12:28 PM
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Look at the news stand and among hunting and outdoor magazines - plenty of pictures of dead animals displayed after the hunt.
Hunting is part of wild life management and practised all over the US as well.
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11-30-2007, 12:33 PM
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In Europe, I believe hunting is more an aristocratic pursuit while in America it is not considered high class or high brow at all. In fact its considered rather redneck.
There are plenty of very exclusive hunting lodges and properties across the US where you would not find a redneck - unless they worked the grounds. Definitively part of the more "land-owner" aristocracy than generally assumed.
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11-30-2007, 02:24 PM
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I have nothing against them hunting but seeing a little child next to dead animals shocked me when I clicked on the pictures. I'm not use to seeing that. To each his own I guess :)
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11-30-2007, 02:43 PM
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Seeing Christian playing amongst dead animals is a bit disturbing and Mary doesn't look thrilled. Love Henrik's hat though  .
Zaja-I love your pic
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11-30-2007, 03:11 PM
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I have nothing against them hunting but seeing a little child next to dead animals shocked me when I clicked on the pictures.
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Christian seems to have a jolly good time - and that is good enough for me.
I wouldn't joine a huntingparty myselfe, but I do know people who enjoy hunting and it is my experience, that hunters have a lot more respect for nature then people have in general.
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11-30-2007, 04:23 PM
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I haven't seen any.
Doesn't the Dutch royals have hunts? I seem to remember that there were reports of Frederik and Mary attending one in Holland during their first year of marriage - and that WA hosted it? There were no pictures though.
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yes they do, and even a week or two ago there was some upheaval about a certain hunt at the estate the Hoge Veluwe, some nature groups were protesting, the Party of the Animals (political party, 2 seats in parlament...sigh!) asked questions etc. But the RVD denied that any royal was present.
I do remember some pictures of WA hunting at an estate of a friend in Zeeland, and that caused some angry comments in newspapers, magazines etc. But the Dutch RF does their best to keep it as much out of the public eye as possible. Hypocritical of course, but they do understand that when they would actually show such pictures there will be a public outcry.
To Ysbel: it is true that mot people do consider it an old fashioned idiotic sport, but most people also consider it cruel and don´t understand the fun of it. Still, the people who actually bother enough to do something against it here aren´t a majority indeed, though the environmental groups etc. are rather vocal about hunt from now and then. I gather that pictures like this would spark a public debate that might forbid this kind of recreational hunting alltogether. So as I said the Dutch RF is carefull to keep it all out of the sight of the public, to protect their own image.
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11-30-2007, 05:51 PM
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These hunts are a part of European culture and a tradition within elite/aristocratic society. I don't understand the 'surprise' of seeing Christian near any of the deceased animals...it's something he is to grow up with, familiarise with and most probably partake in as an adult.
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11-30-2007, 05:58 PM
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Well, traditions change, also those of royals...especially now the public is watching them more closely then ever. I mean, we could say that having mistresses is a tradition for royal and aritocratic men, still we can see in Britain how the public reacts to such a ´tradition´.
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11-30-2007, 09:16 PM
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Is it any worse than taking a child into a butcher's shop? that is full of dead animals too.
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thing is, if they hunt and then consume, i.e. <eat> the animal, then, well, fine. Humans are carnivores after all.
So those deer that were shot in this hunt, well, they indeed will probably end up at the dinner table in one palace or other.
What does disturb me is that dead fox on the grass they decided to shoot. What's the point of that?! Don't tell me they're going to eat it, cause they're not.
Use the fur perhaps? With all the modern technologies that are going into clothing, fur like that's hardly needed. So for that, shame on fred and his fam. for this waste of an animal.
Because the rule should be, you shoot it, you eat it. use it. All of it.
But these people shot that fox just for the hell of it and that sets a bad example for the rest of us at best.
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