The Royal Hunt at Fredensborg: 2003, 2005-2013

[Lumutqueen]

Hunting has been a part of being royal for years, they have every night to do it and Christian has every right to go.
I love the picture of Frederik putting his hat on Christian.

[grevinnan]

Originally Posted by carlota

i agree with both of you. it's also a disturbing image to me. it's a shame this practice is still carried out. i personally would not take my child to such thing, let alone let him touch the poor animals lying there for the sake of human entertainment. it's a cruel practice.

Any child that has grown up on a farm is used to the way food is raised or hunted, killed and eaten. There is absolutely nothing cruel about it. The same goes for anyone involved in 4H or Future Farmers of America - I assume most countries has something similar for young people. Your pet pig is fed and cared for until it is time to be slaughtered for christmas ham.
It is not entertainment. Hunters go out in teams and may spread out over large areas. They don't know what the total result is for the day until all the animals are field dressed and brought back home. If it is just you and your family going hunting the kill may just be hung from a treelimbs - but you all still evaluate the result of the hunt.
Next time you eat a steak think about the life of the feed lot cattle it came from - that is cruelty.

[betina]

Originally Posted by lilytornado

I think only vegetarians have the right to complain about hunting. Those deer probably had a better, freer life than the pigs, cows, chicken, that most people eat. They life in cages their whole life, those deer had a chance.
In some areas it is necessary to hunt as there are no natural predators anymore (bears, wolfes). The deer would become too many and starve in the winter.
And about Christian... He probably wasn't there during the hunt itself. Isn't it better he knows where food comes from and isn't estranged from nature?

I soo agree with you. The area will be too populated if they æive and they would starve. I actually think that hunters are very cautious about the animals, to make sure they dont suffer.
I would really like all you beefeaters (my self included) to see how a farm cow or pig are being put to rest. Now thats brutal for me to see.
I cant see any fuss about Christian being there tbs. Its healthy he knows where things comes from, so he wont grow up thinking that chickens comes from the supermarket freezer.

[iowabelle]

I don't have an objection to hunting so long as the animal is killed cleanly and then not wasted. I come from a hunting family too, although I am not one of them (don't even like fishing). Our city has a TERRIBLE deer problem, and deer are a major problem on the roads... since we've gotten rid of their major predators, something has to be done to keep them in check (and hunting is probably less terrible to them than a pandemic disease or starvation). Hunters get a terrible rap from many people, but they are often the ones who are most supportive of our national and state parks and conservation societies.

[giov]

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[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by giov

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I have to admit some of the pictures of Christian looking at the dead animals is quite disturbing. He shouldn't have been allowed that close.

[ricarda]

Originally Posted by pdas1201

Maybe I should have made that clear, but I was talking about the tradition of hunting for sport/entertainment that should be relegated to the past. You are talking about hunting to maintain crops or maintain a balance. I didn't mention in my post that hunting for legitimate land management purposes should be stopped. Please don't misunderstand me.

And why do you assume that the DRF hunts for sport/entertainment and not for legitimate land management?

[pdas1201]

Originally Posted by ricarda

And why do you assume that the DRF hunts for sport/entertainment and not for legitimate land management?

That was my assumption based on what I think a "ROYAL hunt" constitutes. Flipping the question back to you, why do you assume it was for legitimate land management purposes?

Since, neither of us were at the hunt, we can only "assume," and I can and so can you assume whichever way we like

[Princess_Beatrix]

My grandfather used to hunt too. It was normal for him. I never wanted to go with him. I always thought it was not right to kill animals. I don't like the pictures of Cristian with the dead animals. It's ok if the grown ups go hunting when it is their tradition. But they should not bring the child so close.
Well, but maybe they want the King of the Future to grow up with that, so he will continue the tradition later.
I don't know. Anyway, I don't like this tradition.

[ricarda]

Originally Posted by pdas1201

That was my assumption based on what I think a "ROYAL hunt" constitutes. Flipping the question back to you, why do you assume it was for legitimate land management purposes?

Since, neither of us were at the hunt, we can only "assume," and I can and so can you assume whichever way we like

Well, I guess we are all just assuming - unless we are taking the trouble of informing ourselves better and checking the facts. But unlike you I am not judging people or situations on the basis of mere assumptions.

My assumption (which btw is that they are probably hunting for both reasons: land management and entertainment) is based on the facts that they were hunting in the woods of Fredensborg (their land) and that DK has an overpopulation of wild animals.
Why do you think "royal hunt" means "sport/entertainment" only? For me it means the host is royal, that's all.

But for whatever reasons they hunt, I like the fact that the DRF is so open and "natural" about everything (smoking, hunts, stylists...). No "doing and denying/obscuring" here. And I like that - no matter whether I particularly like what they are doing or not.

[Martha]

It´s sad to see dead animals.

[Terri Terri]

The deer hunted in the royal forests are hunted for venison, a meat which is seen on many menus in the DRF. For example, venison was served at the wedding of the Crown Prince and Crown Princess of Denmark as can be seen at the following link:
The Danish Monarchy - Article

Roast Venison from the Royal Forests
Rissole Potatoes from Samsø
Peas à la Parisienne
Sauté Mushroom and Morel Sauce

[pdas1201]

Originally Posted by ricarda

Well, I guess we are all just assuming - unless we are taking the trouble of informing ourselves better and checking the facts. But unlike you I am not judging people or situations on the basis of mere assumptions.

My assumption (which btw is that they are probably hunting for both reasons: land management and entertainment) is based on the facts that they were hunting in the woods of Fredensborg (their land) and that DK has an overpopulation of wild animals.
Why do you think "royal hunt" means "sport/entertainment" only? For me it means the host is royal, that's all.

But for whatever reasons they hunt, I like the fact that the DRF is so open and "natural" about everything (smoking, hunts, stylists...). No "doing and denying/obscuring" here. And I like that - no matter whether I particularly like what they are doing or not.

Btw, what you have mentioned above are vague facts and I can base the following assumptions on them. Such as, is a royal hunt really so necessary? If there is an overabundance, can an overseer, as part of their duties not handle it swiftly? Is a royal hunt organized every year the only way to curb overabundance. I should think there might be other ways, some even cheaper than organizing a hunt and afterwards parading the carcasses as trophies and taking gleeful pictures of not only themselves but their 4 year old child.

And I think this particular concept is eluding you, that we have clearly different opinions. Also, having things in "open" view doesn't necessarily make it correct. For example, someone decides to steal but does it in open view and is "natural" about it. Does that make it correct? Just because they are not denying/obscuring it, does that make the act correct? So according to you, we should tell the thief that continue doing what you are doing, even though I don't like it, but since you are doing it in public, by all means continue. I, for one, won't do that. To me what is incorrect is incorrect whether done in public view or out of it. And in my opinion, recreational hunting as well as smoking (I don't have any problem with stylists, I would like one if I could afford it) are wrong and should not be condoned in public view or private.

FYI, "unlike you" comments (the one you made above) tend to alienate people and don't necessarily lead to meaningful discussions. Plus, I am done with this topic, I have already expressed my opinion several times. Its time to agree to disagree.

[ricarda]

Originally Posted by pdas1201

For example, someone decides to steal but does it in open view and is "natural" about it. Does that make it correct? Just because they are not denying/obscuring it, does that make the act correct? So according to you, we should tell the thief that continue doing what you are doing, even though I don't like it, but since you are doing it in public, by all means continue... Plus, I am done with this topic, I have already expressed my opinion several times. Its time to agree to disagree.

According to me?..did I write a word about criminal acts? (quite frankly, your example stinks) Did I say that doing things in open view makes them correct? Did I use the words "correct/incorrect" at all?
No, I didn't (and I never would in connection with smoking or hunting).
And yes, definitely time for agreeing to disagree.

[pdas1201]

Originally Posted by ricarda

According to me?..did I write a word about criminal acts? (quite frankly, your example stinks) Did I say that doing things in open view makes them correct? Did I use the words "correct/incorrect" at all?
No, I didn't (and I never would in connection with smoking or hunting).
And yes, definitely time for agreeing to disagree.

I guess each to their own, I thought your previously stated assumptions stunk as well. So now we are even

[Marengo]

It is time to stop the above discussion and move on. Further replies will be deleted immediately.

[dazzling]

BB has a series of pictures of Mary during the hunting trip petting a dog.
The dog owner was suprised that Mary walked up to him and his dogs.
click here

[Freye]

Originally Posted by dazzling

BB has a series of pictures of Mary during the hunting trip petting a dog.
The dog owner was suprised that Mary walked up to him and his dogs.
click here

Thank you for this link. The photos were taken at one of the outbuildings of Frederiksborg Castle when the ladies arrived for lunch.

Queen Margrethe , with Mary and several other ladies visited Frederiksborg Castle for an exhibition of it's history in the morning while the men hunted. They met with the hunters for luncheon in one of the outbuildings at Frederiksborg Castle to share luncheon, before going on their way in the afternoon to an Art Museum.
Source: local newspaper.

[sesa]

just a suggestion: if this is such a horrible tradition to some, and to other it is just a tradition, maybe someone could write a letter to the court and ask them what indeed is done with all the meat once the hunt is over? Maybe they donate some of it or all of it to shelters, or local restraunts? It's wrong to make the assumption that they go out to hunt just for sport and then do nothing with the meat. I'm sure with the way everyone is today, in support of the enviroment, that they might do such a thing, as keep some and donate the other.
But one will never know unless someone takes the initative to write them and ask.
for me personally, I see no problem with having Christian there viewing the carcassas. That way when he gets older, he will be well informed and can make his own decision on whether he wants to continue this tradition or not. As for me, I do not like hunting, I do not like seeing dead animals, but I do eat meat.

[iceflower]

Prince Henrik at the royal hunt in Grib Skov, north
of Copenhagen, Denmark, January 12, 2010:


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Billed-Bladet has a video of that:


** Video: Kongejagt med prinsgemalen **