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Old 03-25-2012, 04:26 PM
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Here's a nice blog with tons of photos from this morning event (thanks to Stig on the SRMB)

INTERNATIONAL CLUB COPENHAGEN ICC NEWS: Official visit of TRH The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall to Denmark 24-27/3 2012 on the occasion of HM The British Queen's Diamond Jubilee in The United Kingdom 2012.
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I can really imagine that Charles saw at least a bit of the coverage of the wedding of Fred & Mary and thought: well done, Prof. Donaldson! For this was a repesentation of the historic and actual Scotland to be proud of and we all know how CHarles treasures his Scottish ancestry. Plus both Susan Donaldson and Camilla are actively engaged to support the importance of reading, so they sure have alot of topics to talk about.

IMHO it was very nice that Charles and Camilla met relatives-in-law at this event for subjects of HM Queen Elizabeth II. - after all Charles and Camilla are subjects, too!
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:42 PM
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If anyone from the British or the Danish contingents involved with this visit thought it was inappropriate for the Donaldsons to be at the church then they wouldn't be there! I agree that it's unusual for royal in laws to take part in something like this, but Mary's father and stepmother are in the unique position of being connected to both the Danish royal family and the British Commonwealth, (and they might also have connections with that particular church). Therefore I can't see anything inappropriate in them taking a limited part in this fairly informal event. Certainly the British couple seemed more than comfortable with them being there.
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I find the seemingly low-key security presence interesting.
In contrast to the visit last year by W&K where you could hardly turn around without bumping into a security officer.
Wonder why? Do you think there is an added security risk against W&K or are they just more discreet (less improvised) this time?

FasterB, can you enlighten us about the outfits (messehagler, not sure what it's called in English) the clergy are wearing?
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:51 PM
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FasterB, can you enlighten us about the outfits (messehagler, not sure what it's called in English) the clergy are wearing?
Nope, sorry, Im not that into the english church.

But I myself are interested in hearing why they are wearing purple. You see in the danish lutheran church today we celebrated "Mari Bebudelse", the day where the angel Gabriel is visiting Virgin Mary telling her that she will be the mother of Jesus. (Is it called "The assumption of the announcement"?)
And here is the reason for my question: The liturgical colour in the danish church for this specific sunday is white. Are there liturgical colours in the anglican church?
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:53 PM
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Since the Middletons are British, why should they ever agree to take part in an official engagement with a visiting royal?

Now, thanks to you and other posters, big questions were asked. The Donaldsons have been accused of being grasping social climbers with ideas above their station and attention seekers (just like their absent daughter).
I hope you all had your satisfaction of the day and we can move on now.
Yet again in the Danish forum I am accused of saying things that I obviously didn't. I did not accuse the Donaldsons of being grasping social climbers - I quite clearly stated that if the Middletons turned up to this sort of event that is how they would be considered in the UK.

I fail to see what would be so wrong with a Danish representative attending an Anglican service, even if it is for QEII. Lots of foreign royals attended a Lutheran service to celebrate Margrethe's recent jubilee, so why is it that only subjects of QEII are considered appropriate to attend?

On top of that, given Mary has much, much more British blood in her veins than any other member of a European RF, and spent most of her life as a subject of QEII, surely it would have been much more appropriate for her to attend this event?

One thing's for certain - if ever the Queen felt bad about only sending Edward and Sophie to an event in Denmark, this will have set her mind at rest.
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:54 PM
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If anyone from the British or the Danish contingents involved with this visit thought it was inappropriate for the Donaldsons to be at the church then they wouldn't be there! I agree that it's unusual for royal in laws to take part in something like this, but Mary's father and stepmother are in the unique position of being connected to both the Danish royal family and the British Commonwealth, (and they might also have connections with that particular church). Therefore I can't see anything inappropriate in them taking a limited part in this fairly informal event. Certainly the British couple seemed more than comfortable with them being there.
Camelot, at the end of the day we don't know what's taken place and been agreed on behind palace walls! It's not unlikely that the Donaldsons have met C&C over drinks or dinner at the palace yesterday... maybe they got on well.. maybe they agreed to joining the service at St. Albans... it's all speculation on my part! I'm absolutely convinced that the Danish master of ceremonies would have intervened should the Donaldsons have even contemplated to do anything untoward at St. Albans. Actually I think it's time to give Prof. and Mrs. Donaldson some credit!

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I find the seemingly low-key security presence interesting.
In contrast to the visit last year by W&K where you could hardly turn around without bumping into a security officer.
Wonder why? Do you think there is an added security risk against W&K or are they just more discreet (less improvised) this time?

FasterB, can you enlighten us about the outfits (messehagler, not sure what it's called in English) the clergy are wearing?
I would be surprised if William and especially Kate weren't significantly higher security risks than every other member of the British RF with the exception of QEII.
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One thing's for certain - if ever the Queen felt bad about only sending Edward and Sophie to an event in Denmark, this will have set her mind at rest.
Oh yes, as "certain" as night and day that is.
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One thing's for certain - if ever the Queen felt bad about only sending Edward and Sophie to an event in Denmark, this will have set her mind at rest.
Care to elaborate because that makes no sense at all to me.

I notice when King Frederik visited Canterbury Cathedral for a service in his capacity as Colonel in Chief of a British regiment no member of the British Royal Family felt the need to attend.
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Your view of what is proper is perhaps a bit more royal than the royals
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Camelot, at the end of the day we don't know what's taken place and been agreed on behind palace walls! It's not unlikely that the Donaldsons have met C&C over drinks or dinner at the palace yesterday... maybe they got on well.. maybe they agreed to joining the service at St. Albans... it's all speculation on my part! I'm absolutely convinced that the Danish master of ceremonies would have intervened should the Donaldsons have even contemplated to do anything untoward at St. Albans. Actually I think it's time to give Prof. and Mrs. Donaldson some credit!

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I believe that's pretty much what I said?
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Nope, sorry, Im not that into the english church.
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A messehagel is a chasuble !

I wondered about the colour purple as well, it could be the bishop's robe, but I won't bet on it. I'm not sure whether the liturgical colours work in the same way as in Denmark. Ask me again in two months time, and I will know more about it!

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I believe that's pretty much what I said?
Well, and??
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A messehagel is a chasuble !

I wondered about the colour purple as well, it could be the bishop's robe, but I won't bet on it. I'm not sure whether the liturgical colours work in the same way as in Denmark. Ask me again in two months time, and I will know more about it!

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Thank you, Viv

I have tried to google the liturgical colors in the anglican church and they all say white is the color to wear at "The assumption of the announcement" and since this is the exact day, then Im still curios as to why he wears the lent color (purple)
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Care to elaborate because that makes no sense at all to me.

I notice when King Frederik visited Canterbury Cathedral for a service in his capacity as Colonel in Chief of a British regiment no member of the British Royal Family felt the need to attend.
DANISH KING AT CANTERBURY - British Path

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While in Norway and Sweden Charles and Camilla were accompanied at all times by senior members of their royal families, most often the King and Queen themselves. Denmark, for whatever reason, have chosen not to go down that route. So the Queen needn't feel bad about not sending senior royals to Danish royal events.

Seems it'll suit both houses quite well and supports the stories that we've heard that the BRF are closer to the Swedes and, in particular, the Norwegians than the Danes.
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Nope, sorry, Im not that into the english church.

But I myself are interested in hearing why they are wearing purple. You see in the danish lutheran church today we celebrated "Mari Bebudelse", the day where the angel Gabriel is visiting Virgin Mary telling her that she will be the mother of Jesus. (Is it called "The assumption of the announcement"?)
And here is the reason for my question: The liturgical colour in the danish church for this specific sunday is white. Are there liturgical colours in the anglican church?
They would wear purple because it is Lent.
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They would wear purple because it is Lent.
But today is the day where Angel Gabriel visits Virgin Mary to tell her she will be the mother of Christ and the liturgical color of today is white...
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I did not accuse the Donaldsons of being grasping social climbers - I quite clearly stated that if the Middletons turned up to this sort of event that is how they would be considered in the UK.
Why mention the Middletons at all in this thread? To me it sounded like criticism of the Donaldsons.

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On top of that, given Mary has much, much more British blood in her veins than any other member of a European RF, and spent most of her life as a subject of QEII, surely it would have been much more appropriate for her to attend this event?
And much more convenient for her distractors too. Mary taking center stage, attention seeking, turning her back towards Camilla again.....

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One thing's for certain - if ever the Queen felt bad about only sending Edward and Sophie to an event in Denmark, this will have set her mind at rest.
You came up with the perfect explanation why no member of the DRF was present. Never thought of that. Now I can go to sleep with all questions answered. Thanks.
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Thank you, Viv

I have tried to google the liturgical colors in the anglican church and they all say white is the color to wear at "The assumption of the announcement" and since this is the exact day, then Im still curios as to why he wears the lent color (purple)
FasterB, the liturgical years are not identical in the various denominations! The service list of St. Albans does not mention which day it is in the "church year", however I checked the day at the service page of an English Cathedral: today is the 5th Sunday of Lent, so that explains the colour purple!
Monday the 26th is the annunciation of the Lord.
Maybe we should continue the dicussion on a PM?? !

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But today is the day where Angel Gabriel visits Virgin Mary to tell her she will be the mother of Christ and the liturgical color of today is white...
I think that in the Anglican Church the colour would still be purple
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