The Royal Forums Coat of Arms

Go Back   The Royal Forums > Reigning Houses > Royal House of Denmark

Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #41  
Old 03-27-2008, 10:24 AM
Lilla's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Posts: 918
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empress View Post
Hello Binz,

Perhapps the confusion comes from this: In most christian religions, the church service is not considered over until after communion. I know that in the Catholic mass, there is still about 10 minutes or so of service left after communion. Perhaps it is different in the Danish Lutheran Church.
It is different in the Danish Lutheran Church. Communion takes place after the church service is over. So, when attending a danish church service, the majority of churchgoers leaves before communion. Only if you have got a very special and personal reason for participating in the communion you stay.

So, when members of the royal family leave church before communion, they are doing exactly what is in accordance with danish church tradition. This might (as some posters on this thread have written) seem rude when compared with other religions - but within the danish lutheran church it is simply the way things are done.
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 03-27-2008, 11:39 AM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: .a, United States
Posts: 3,345
Quote:
It's much more meant as a general statement, sometimes I can't believe what halfway intelligent people are willed to post on message boards.
But hey, at least it created some sort of discussion even though some may not agree with the primary issue.

On the otherhand, I'm appalled that none of the ladies wore giant Easter service hats!! I mean, where is the respect?!


__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 03-27-2008, 12:35 PM
Primrose28's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: --, United States
Posts: 105
Quote:
Originally Posted by GlitteringTiaras View Post
But hey, at least it created some sort of discussion even though some may not agree with the primary issue.

On the otherhand, I'm appalled that none of the ladies wore giant Easter service hats!! I mean, where is the respect?!


ahh that pic brings back memories of the hats my mom used to make my sister and I wear for Easter Mass.....which she used to decorate herself with the biggest fake flowers she could find! :)
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 03-27-2008, 12:56 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: .a, United States
Posts: 3,345
Really? That's cool. I love looking at all the big Easter hats; some of the ladies look fierce, and you know they are trying to out style each other in the end.

By the way, thank you Lilla and Binz for your informative information; I appreciate it.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 03-27-2008, 01:23 PM
Lilla's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Posts: 918
Quote:
Originally Posted by GlitteringTiaras View Post
On the otherhand, I'm appalled that none of the ladies wore giant Easter service hats!! I mean, where is the respect?!


Easter hats?
Are you only joking - or is this a tradition in your part of the world? I have never heard of easterhats beeing a part of the eastercelibrations i Danmark - pity if could be fun. Though I can't imagine Mary wearing a hat like the one on the photo.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 03-27-2008, 01:31 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: .a, United States
Posts: 3,345
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilla View Post
Easter hats?
Are you only joking - or is this a tradition in your part of the world? I have never heard of easterhats beeing a part of the eastercelibrations i Danmark - pity if could be fun. Though I can't imagine Mary wearing a hat like the one on the photo.

In African-American chruches it's tradition for ladies to dawn hats, and in some of these churches the women, without verbally stating it, like to out do each other. On Easter, these fabulous ladies go all out, and it's great to see what they will wear. It's like a religious fashion show...Here is a link with some information.

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 03-27-2008, 01:36 PM
lilytornado's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: -, United States
Posts: 504
I have never seen that before either.... Quite interesting. Where does this tradition come from?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 03-27-2008, 01:48 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: .a, United States
Posts: 3,345
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilytornado View Post
I have never seen that before either.... Quite interesting. Where does this tradition come from?

I have no idea, but I'll ask my girlfriend.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 03-27-2008, 01:52 PM
ashelen's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: la, United States
Posts: 2,416
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilla View Post
It is different in the Danish Lutheran Church. Communion takes place after the church service is over. So, when attending a danish church service, the majority of churchgoers leaves before communion. Only if you have got a very special and personal reason for participating in the communion you stay.

So, when members of the royal family leave church before communion, they are doing exactly what is in accordance with danish church tradition. This might (as some posters on this thread have written) seem rude when compared with other religions - but within the danish lutheran church it is simply the way things are done.
I am surprise at what do you say, I grow up going to in the Danish Church in Argentina, and it was rude if soembody left the church before the service and the communion was done!
__________________
Ashelen
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 03-27-2008, 02:17 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: .a, United States
Posts: 3,345
Quote:
Originally Posted by ashelen View Post
I am surprise at what do you say, I grow up going to in the Danish Church in Argentina, and it was rude if soembody left the church before the service and the communion was done!

Key word, Argentina.

The church may be Danish by distant tradition, but the farther away it is from it's roots the easier it is for them to take on their own traditions. Hence they are connected, yet they are different in the smallest aspects. For example, a Southern Baptist church in Alabama is different vastly different than a Southern Baptist church in Orange County, California. Same church. Different location. Services adjusted to fit the local congregation. So it seems that this could and does apply to the Danish church in Denmark compared to the Danish church in Aregentina.

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 03-27-2008, 07:12 PM
MARG's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Posts: 4,040
Quote:
Originally Posted by Binz View Post
. . . . ."The church service ends before the communion takes place. There is played "godbye-music" and if one does not attend to recieve the communion it is quite normal to leave. Prince Henrik never accepts communion. I don't know about Frederik and Mary. "
Binz, thank you for your calm, reasoned and educational post.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Binz
Sorry to say it. It's so easy to judge other people harshly with no or simple not enough knowledge. . . . . . . sometimes I can't believe what halfway intelligent people are willed to post on message boards.
Ouch!! A well-deserved hit.

I think many people like me have been seeing the situation through the eyes of our own particular church experience. Your post, and others like it have really been an education in "look before you leap". Mea Culpa.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GlitteringTiaras
On the otherhand, I'm appalled that none of the ladies wore giant Easter service hats!! I mean, where is the respect?!
Whowa.

That thing would definitely frighten the horses!!! If it was in front of me in church I would lose the plot and be utterly fixated on it. I am having nightmares just thinking of a church full of 'Easter Bonnets'. . . . no please noooo!

ps: I think it's a matter of life imitating art a la Fred Astair's "Easter Parade". Now there's a movie with hats!!
__________________
MARG
"Words ought to be a little wild, for they are assaults of thoughts on the unthinking." - JM Keynes
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 03-28-2008, 09:01 AM
Gaia's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: , United States
Posts: 109
Binz, thank you for the education! A reminder that we need to understand other cultures before applying our own values.

I also remember ancient priests yelling at people who tried to slip out before or during communion. As for the hats, I remember when they were a lovely requirement. Those were the days..sniff
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 03-28-2008, 11:36 AM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: .a, United States
Posts: 3,345
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaia View Post
Binz, thank you for the education! A reminder that we need to understand other cultures before applying our own values.
You are quite right, Gaia. I found it interesting to learn the difference and cultural traditions... I hope one day I can learn more. Again, thanks Binz and Lilla.

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 03-28-2008, 09:36 PM
SASSY's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Houston, United States
Posts: 551
Quote:
Originally Posted by GlitteringTiaras View Post
In African-American chruches it's tradition for ladies to dawn hats, and in some of these churches the women, without verbally stating it, like to out do each other. On Easter, these fabulous ladies go all out, and it's great to see what they will wear. It's like a religious fashion show...Here is a link with some information.



This is 1, 000% correct! Brings back alot of memories! Actually the hats shown are VERY TAME compared to what I grew up seeing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GlitteringTiaras View Post
I have no idea, but I'll ask my girlfriend.


Basically, it's just for showing off. Everyone (especially the older ladies) parading up and down the pews greeting people before and after church. In reality they're making sure you see their new outfit/hat.

I guess it got out of hand over the decades. Alot of preachers mention it in their sermons, how most people don't go to church all year only to show up Easter Sunday in their new clothes and hats. We neve wore them personally but it was..and still is..quite a show.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 03-28-2008, 11:05 PM
acdc1's Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: somewhere in, United States
Posts: 1,812
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilla View Post
It is different in the Danish Lutheran Church. Communion takes place after the church service is over.
So that makes it perfectly understandable that they left, if they did not wish to receive communion.

I'm Evangelical Lutheran here in America, and we do communion like that sometimes, where you may stay for communion if you wish after the service is done, or you can go eat a breakfast the church provided.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 03-29-2008, 06:38 AM
Lilla's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Posts: 918
Quote:
Originally Posted by GlitteringTiaras View Post
In African-American chruches it's tradition for ladies to dawn hats, and in some of these churches the women, without verbally stating it, like to out do each other. On Easter, these fabulous ladies go all out, and it's great to see what they will wear. It's like a religious fashion show...Here is a link with some information.
Thanks for the link Glittering Tiaras. I wish this was a tradition where I live as well. It could be fun to make hats like that and looking at all the hats others would be wearing. But well - I will just have to go visiting your country during the easter-hollydayes and attend church-service in an African-American church.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 04-18-2008, 12:50 PM
Lady Bluffton's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bluffton, United States
Posts: 348
Question

I find it very interesting that one of our forum members reports that Prince Henrik "never" takes communion. That's news to me.

Does anyone know if he considers himself to be a practicing Lutheran or a lapsed Catholic?

Also, outside of HM Margrethe, are other members of the DRF weekly church goers?

Cheers!
__________________

__________________
"You can dance, you can jive, having the time of your life / See that girl, watch that scene, diggin' the dancing queen"
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
danish royals


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Interviews with Members of the Royal Family SpiffyBallerina Royal House of Sweden 92 02-08-2014 07:16 PM
Relationships between the Members of the Danish Royal Family jellybeans Royal House of Denmark 303 01-04-2014 07:11 AM




Additional Links
Popular Tags
abdication birth charlene chris o'neill crown prince haakon crown princess letizia crown princess mary crown princess mette-marit duchess of cambridge fashion genealogy grand duchess maria teresa grand duke henri hohenzollern infanta leonor infanta sofia jordan king abdullah ii king carl xvi gustav king constantine ii king felipe king felipe vi king harald king juan carlos king philippe king willem-alexander luxembourg nobility olympic games olympics ottoman picture of the month poland pom president hollande prince albert prince albert ii prince carl philip prince constantijn prince felipe prince floris prince pieter-christiaan princess anita princess astrid princess beatrix princess charlene princess laurentien princess letizia princess mabel princess margriet princess marilene princess mary princess mary fashion queen anne-marie queen letizia queen mathilde queen maxima queen rania queen silvia queen sofia royal royal fashion russia sofia hellqvist spain state visit sweden the hague visit wedding



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:28 AM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014
Jelsoft Enterprises

Royal News Delivered to your Email!

You can get the latest Royal News right in your inbox.

unsusbcribe at anytime with one click

Close [X]