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Actually the Danish press have been fairly lenient towards our Marie. She did however get a pretty rough treatment initially! She learned the hard lesson as one of the first things and she had to go from there.- Perhaps that was a blessing in disguise?

But on the other hand, when looking at QMII in full regalia, who would imagine her dancing around her husband, showering him with petals, while singing his praise?
I meant in Denmark.
If being called a "blabbermouth", which was her own fault, BTW, really is the worst thing that has been written about her, Marie really hasn't suffered that much, IMO...She hasn't had the full machinery of EB on her back so far, like
Mary has had. Maybe the CP has her position to thank for that.

Queen M dancing and showering PH with petals must have been about 40 years ago, right?!
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:05 AM
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I meant in Denmark.
If being called a "blabbermouth", which was her own fault, BTW, really is the worst thing that has been written about her, Marie really hasn't suffered that much, IMO...She hasn't had the full machinery of EB on her back so far, like
Mary has had. Maybe the CP has her position to thank for that.

Queen M dancing and showering PH with petals must have been about 40 years ago, right?!
Being ridiculed and dismissed is hardly fun. Not as one of your first experiences with the press.

IRRC PH was showered with petals when he turned 70.
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:24 AM
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Being ridiculed and dismissed is hardly fun. Not as one of your first experiences with the press.
No, of course it isn't, but after that she really hasn't had very much heat from the press.
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Old 10-10-2011, 07:13 PM
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I meant in Denmark.
If being called a "blabbermouth", which was her own fault, BTW, really is the worst thing that has been written about her, Marie really hasn't suffered that much, IMO...She hasn't had the full machinery of EB on her back so far, like
Mary has had. Maybe the CP has her position to thank for that.

Queen M dancing and showering PH with petals must have been about 40 years ago, right?!
I think the difference in treatment when comparing Mary with Marie is based on their respective positions in Denmark. Mary, as the wife of the Crown Prince and future King, has a much more high profile role to play. I think Mary and Frederik, (and their children), are seen as individuals but also as representatives of Denmark, so there may be a lot more emotion wrapped up in how people think of them. The stakes are higher for The Crown Princess than they are for the wife of the second son and that would be true regardless of who Frederik and Joachim married.
There seems to have been a huge amount of expectation and excitement surrounding Mary from the time she married Frederik. I think that's overall a good thing but it also means she's never had the luxury of remaining in the shadows for awhile to learn the ropes and maybe make a few mistakes without having it turn into a major deal. She's had to be 'on' right from the start and I think she's taken this very seriously.
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. . . . . . Queen M dancing and showering PH with petals must have been about 40 years ago, right?!
I had to laugh when I read you somewhat snarky comment, most probably based on the regal pose that Queen Margrethe strikes when on duty. But you forget, this is the Queen that wears The Poppies with the same élan as the crown jewels!

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. . . . . . . IRRC PH was showered with petals when he turned 70.
. . . . . . Isn't that wonderful! Oh to be a woman married that long and still be so much in love with him to behave like a young woman in the first romantic blush of love, dancing around and showering petals. How utterly divine, romantic and downright enviable.
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I had to laugh when I read you somewhat snarky comment, most probably based on the regal pose that Queen Margrethe strikes when on duty. But you forget, this is the Queen that wears The Poppies with the same élan as the crown jewels!

. . . . . . Isn't that wonderful! Oh to be a woman married that long and still be so much in love with him to behave like a young woman in the first romantic blush of love, dancing around and showering petals. How utterly divine, romantic and downright enviable.
Absolutely! I agree. My comment was certainly not meant as somewhat snarky...Maybe I should have used this smilie:
I probably had the picture of the young Henri in my mind... I could have danced around him myself, throwing petals...

I would love to see The Poppies on Mary...It would give people something to write about...
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:24 AM
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BB has a number of short articles about the various Monarch's relationship with their children-in-law. In particular the crown Princes/ses.

BB's Marianne Singer writes that QMII has a good relationship with her daughters-in-law and although she's not the one to offer advise all the time: "One shouldn't trouble people with that. But we have talked about things and they have asked: Should we do that? Do you, mother-in-law, think that's a good idea? Things like that. Fortunately they are sweet (good) to come if there is something they are in doubt about".
QMII praise her daughters-in-law for being super-moms and a good support for their husbands and good representatives for Denmark: "I think they are doing absolutely splendidly both of them".

She said about Mary to CNN: "I genuinely like her and she knows that, I hope. And if you genuinely like a person then it's so much easier to help them".
QMII is in no doubt Mary will become a good queen: "I have a great confidence in her. She has been very, very competent, in the sense that she has tackled her role herself, so it has been easy helping her".

The others mentioned are Queen Sofia and Letizia, Queen Sonja and Mette Marit, Queen Silvia and Daniel, Queen Elizabeth and Camilla, Queen Paola and Mathilde and Queen Beatrix and Maxima.
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Old 02-05-2013, 06:21 PM
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Hi Everyone,

Here's a question I've had for a little while, that the recent abdication of Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands has brought up again - and this seemed the best thread to ask.

Is there the private formality amongst the DRF members, that there is in other Royal Houses?

I remember an anecdote coming out some years ago - (can't remember who sorry, but some-one who hadn't seen it before and so remarked on it publicly) - about witnessing the after midnight breakup of a private dinner party of a few of the older members of the British Royal Family - who'd known each other all their lives - Princess Alexandra, and the Duke of Kent I think, with Queen Elizabeth, and spouses.

Everyone bowed or curtsied, as well as expressing the usual warm farewells of family, even though it was very late and there was no-one about - i.e. private formalities after a family get together.

I also remember the authour Gwen Robyns, who became a personal friend of Princess Grace, saying in an interview on TV about how she, being somewhat older, sat down at the table at a private family lunch and then realised that Princess Grace and the three children stood about waiting - for quite a while. They didn't sit until Prince Ranier arrived and sat down.

I've seen some public bowing and curtsies amongst the DRF, and can imagine staff giving a nod of the head at the beginning of the day's work or start of a meeting, but is there this same level of formality in private amongst the actual family? Or maybe just to Queen Margrethe as Sovereign?

Does Princess Marie curtsey to CP Mary as her role has a higher status? Does Joachim to Frederick?

The Australian women's magazines have taken Queen Beatrix's announcement and printed up a two page story - "Mary To Be Queen" - ! - (with an old photo of Mary, with Frederick, formally attired with their white elephants, waving as if at their coronation already.)

I can see CP Mary will need to curtsey to CP Maxima when she is crowned, but is there an order of precedence amongst all the Crown Princess of Europe?

I'm thinking they're all on an equal footing at the moment, though there was some magazine buzz a while back about the British "blood" princess vs those who married "higher" and who had to curtsey to who, and I remember the anecdote of Princess Michael of Kent telling Diana not to think of curtseying to her if they met on their shared staircase - after Diana lost her HRH and went down in rank.

How formal with each other are the DRF behind closed doors?

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(P.S. - another interesting British Royal Family formality was - is? - the father kissing the sons on the forehead as a greeting.)
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Old 02-05-2013, 06:58 PM
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It's my clear impression that members of the DRF don't bow and curtsey in private. They kiss each other on the cheeks but that's about it.

Mary and our Marie do indeed curtsey to QMII and PH, when the show is on. However, I haven't noticed Marie ever curtsying to Mary. Just as I haven't seen Princess Benedikte curtsey to QMII. - That would also strike me personally, and I think most Danes as well, as a bit odd. They are after all close family.
That thing may change once Mary become a queen, but we'll see.

Joachim doesn't bow or even nod his head to Frederik, not even when the show is running. That would be seen as very odd by the Danes and I think Frederik would be very uncomfortable with that.

I don't believe there is an order of precedence among the European CP's. Most of them are personal friends and they probably regard each other as a kind of colleagues. And as such the formalities are not that important.
The current CP's will bow/curtsey to WA&M simply because they become king and queen but once the doors are closed I think they will be just as informal as they have always been amongs each other.
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:22 PM
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Hi Muhler - thanks for such speedy feedback.

I'm not suprised at your info regarding the Danish Royals - makes sense to treat each other as family members rather than as their roles.

(I think that's why the witness to the dinner party amongst the British Royal leaked his story - it struck him to see such formality amongst people well-known to each other, who presumably just finished a jolly evening in each other's company, and with no-one else about to notice any formality or it's absence - to still act in this very formal way with one another.)

Cheers, Sun Lion.
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I think this gif is pretty interesting.
We always see how Mary curtsey to Margrethe when the show is on. But when the cameras are off it is a completely normal and warmly hug between mother in law and daughter in law

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0...so1_r1_250.gif
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Is that from Kongehuset Indefra? It's a really lovely gif nevertheless. It's so nice to see what a great relationship QMII has to Mary (and Marie and Alexandra, for that matter).
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Is that from Kongehuset Indefra? It's a really lovely gif nevertheless. It's so nice to see what a great relationship QMII has to Mary (and Marie and Alexandra, for that matter).
Yes, that´s from "Kongehuset Indefra"
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Queen Margrethe last year about helping CP Mary along in her role in the mornarchy

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'I really like her very much indeed and she, I hope, knows that and feels that, ‘cause when you really like people, you can help them so much more easily, but she’s been very, very competent in the way she’s tackled her role. So it’s been very, very easy to help along, and she comes and asks me, “What should we do about that?” “What do you think about that?” I feel very confident in her, and I think we’ve got a very good relationship indeed. A warm relationship.'
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Any speculation on how Mary and Marie get along? When I've seen them in videos--in very limited times on Youtube--they don't really seem to interact with each other. They each just seem to stay with their own families.
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Any speculation on how Mary and Marie get along? When I've seen them in videos--in very limited times on Youtube--they don't really seem to interact with each other. They each just seem to stay with their own families.
There are plenty of photos of the two of them chatting and smiling.

It's my clear impression that they get along fine. I don't think they are particular close and I don't think they call each other to chat every week.
My impression is that when they meet, they have no problems chatting away and feel comfortable in each other's company.
Frederik and Joachim also laugh and chat when they meet.

And nowadays they can call, text or use Facebook when updating each other, so they don't have to see each other every week in order to keep in touch.
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Any speculation on how Mary and Marie get along? When I've seen them in videos--in very limited times on Youtube--they don't really seem to interact with each other. They each just seem to stay with their own families.
I was wondering about their relationship too.

They seem to be friends although not the best friends.

When they're are together we rarely seem them chatting or close to each other.
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They seem to get along fine. Well enough for Mary to give Marie some of her daughters hand-me-downs. We saw them getting along and laughing together at the Malene Birger fashion show last fall. IMO they are friendly sisters-in-law.
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They seem to get along fine. Well enough for Mary to give Marie some of her daughters hand-me-downs. We saw them getting along and laughing together at the Malene Birger fashion show last fall. IMO they are friendly sisters-in-law.
Yes. and Mary is godmother to little Prince Henrik
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