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02-18-2006, 11:42 AM
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Princes and Princesses of Greece and Denmark?
Can someone tell me whether or not the Greek royal family are truly princes and princesses of Denmark, or are they just styles they enjoy? Do they truly enjoy the titles or do they just get to enjoy the luxury of using the styles? If so, then TRH Prince and Princess Pavlos (and their children), HRH Princess Alexia, HRH Nikolaos, HRH Princess Theodora, and HRH Prince Philippos are all royal princes and princesses of Denmark. Also, can someone tell me how long these titles can be hereditary (even their Greek titles too, how long can they continue being Greek royals of a country that claims to have no royalty)? Thanks if you can help.
Last edited by Melania; 02-18-2006 at 11:45 AM. 
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02-18-2006, 12:09 PM
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King Christian 9. knew that ther was problems in the Balkan area and wantet to give his grandchild and his descendant som safety her in Denmark. I think that the Greek Royal Family truly like the titel because they are getting a closer tie to the Danish Royal Family. Yes TRH Prince and Princess Pavlos (and their chrildren), HRH Princess Alexia, HRH Prince Nikolaos, HRH Princess Theodora and HRH Prince Philippos are all royal Princes and Princesses of Denmark and Greece. I donīt know how long the titel can be hereditary in the family,but i think it migte become extinct if the last 3 children are going to be married into an ordinary family.
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02-18-2006, 12:30 PM
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Thanks for your answer. Also, what would happen if their Greek titles become extinct? Would they still continue to carry on their Danish titles, or would they also become extinct? I am curious to know, when, for example, Crown Prince Pavlos visists Denmark, is he considered as much as a prince as Prince Joachim? Does he have the rights and enjoy all of the same privilages? Would he continue being a Prince of Denmark (even if he doesn't live there, nor speak Danish fluently) and would he continue to pass on the titles of Prince of Denmark to his sons and grandsons without the title of Prince of Greece? Is it sort of like the Hanovers that continue to claim to be Princes of Great Britain and Ireland, even though these are just styles and not titles that they use?
Last edited by Melania; 02-18-2006 at 12:39 PM.
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02-18-2006, 12:52 PM
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The Greek princes and princesses are not in line to the Danish throne, as Anne-Marie renounced her rights to it upon marriage with Constantine, so I wouldn't say that they were considered equal to the Danish princes and princesses in that regard.
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02-18-2006, 02:01 PM
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02-18-2006, 02:13 PM
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That must be why she is not listed on the official Danish Monarchy website. Her sister is listed, but not her. I always wondered this and wondered why the Greek royal family was not on their website? I guess that was my question all along, why are the Greek royal family not on the website? I wish I could see them on there. I think their family would be so cute (especially Prince Pavlos and his family), and it would bring the family more attention and credibility (in the future, I guess) but they are not. Thanks for answering my question. :) Last edited by Melania; 02-18-2006 at 02:17 PM.
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02-18-2006, 02:32 PM
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The Royal House - see bottom http://kongehuset.dk/artikel.php?dogtag=k_en_fam HM Queen Anne-Marie - with link to the Greek website on the bottom http://kongehuset.dk/artikel.php?dogtag=k_en_fam_ann Last edited by fromEU; 02-18-2006 at 02:58 PM.
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02-18-2006, 02:56 PM
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02-18-2006, 03:06 PM
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Thank you, I didn't see that. Also, I wonder if the family would be on there if Anne-Marie wasn't the Queen's sister? I wish the Greek family could be more closely linked to the Danish monarchy/ Danish royalty since they carry the titles of Princes and Princesses of Greece and Denmark. It would give us more Danish royals to follow. I like the Danish royal family for some reason. :)
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02-28-2006, 01:37 PM
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King George of Greece was born Prince Vilhelm/William of Denmark. As the Greek throne was viewed to be a "shaky" prospect, his descendants also are Prince/Princess of Denmark in addition to their Greek styles.
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08-21-2007, 10:43 AM
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BTW, here's Anne-Marie's profile: Kongehuset - Kongehuset The only link didn't work. I was wondering why it was just linked as 'Ann' when her name is AnnE, not to mention Anne-Marie! But I still wonder why Nikolai's URL is niColai.
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08-31-2007, 12:35 PM
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In addition, Princess Anne-Marie had to resign and did resign her rights to the Throne by virtue of the fact that she was marrying a reigning foreign dynast, in contrast to, and distinction from, Princess Benedikte who retained her rights because she married a non-reigning and non-ruling foreign dynast. Thus, in a strictly technical sense, king Constantine's children are not princes/princesses either til or af Danmark. However, I would have thought that, since the prince/ss af Danmark title is merely a matter of style and honorific, that is, not requiring legal or constitutional backing, it may be up to The Queen to style them as such, when she so decides, unless her government can legally oppose that. Last edited by Philippe Egalite'; 08-31-2007 at 01:08 PM.
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08-31-2007, 01:13 PM
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"The Royal Family comprises Her Majesty The Queen’s relatives, including Her Majesty Queen Anne-Marie." In other words, Queen Anne-Marie is a member of the Royal Family as it also applies to Counts/Countesses Rosenborg etc Indeed, the Website makes the distinction between Royal House (constitutional status- State matter) and Royal Family (no constitutional status- private matter) crystal-clear. Last edited by Philippe Egalite'; 08-31-2007 at 01:21 PM.
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10-28-2007, 11:03 AM
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I can't remember where I read it or the exact Danish terms, but I do remember the English translation of an article that I read. In fact, there is not real English transaltion because the terms aren't used in English.
Prince Frederik, his son, his brother, and his nephews are princes TO Denmark. Where as, the Greek royals are princes OF Denmark. If a prince is a prince TO Denmark, then he is in line to inherent the throne of Denmark. However, if a prince is a prince OF Denmark, then it is just a style used, a curtesy title. If I come across the article that I read again, I will remember and come back and post the source. Maybe someone could help with the source? Thanks
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10-28-2007, 11:22 AM
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AFAIK king Constantine, queen Anne-Marie and their children plus family all have Danish diplomat's passports, thus their relationship to Denmark should be somehow official.
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