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Old 10-04-2016, 09:55 AM
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I noticed that the Prince Consort was absent,does he normally not attend?
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I noticed that the Prince Consort was absent,does he normally not attend?
He is retired I think this is one of the events where he will not be seen attending as of this year. And he is no longer Prince Consort of Denmark, "only" Prince Henrik.
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Old 10-04-2016, 10:26 AM
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BB video of the DRF arriving - on a fairly chilly day: VIDEO: Sådan så det ud, da kongefamilien ankom til Folketinget | BILLED-BLADET

Benedikte arrives at around3:45 followed by the rest.
i always like the opening of the parliament as we get to see all the members of the RF interacting when they arrive and wait around for the queen to arrive.

plus, there's always funny moments when the ladies try to kiss each other with the big hats on!
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Old 10-04-2016, 11:32 AM
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I actually saw the opening - it ran on the TV at my work. And EB had a live-article following the DRF - you know - do they fall a sleep?

A fine tradition to watch the opening. Margrethe looked happy, but was studying the ceiling very carefully, as usual. We were not far into the speech before Marie looked seriously bored! The others did a better job to look interested. Frederik and Mary flirted/teased with each other, maybe that was a way for them to stay so good awake. They must still suffer for jetlag. Benedikte sits a little bit alone in on the balcon, but also managed to stay awake nicely through.

Margrethe was seen taken the elevator up instead of the stairs. It's the first time I think. She get's older, and it goes fast now.

Margrethe and Mary had a good laughing at the arrival - simply because their hats did it was a little difficult to kiss each other, but they succeded. However, not without laughing:

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...f8&oe=585F6AAD
http://danapress.de/thumb.php/015553...xydZvx_QE0EyaK
http://danapress.de/thumb.php/015553...xydZvx_QE0FCaK
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Margrethe studying the ceiling:
http://danapress.de/thumb.php/015553...LJ1U3G9wc3vyaS

F&M flirting:
http://danapress.de/thumb.php/015553...nk6jbj-wM1AiaM

A not so elegant kiss from Margrethe to her oldest son
http://danapress.de/thumb.php/015553...nkbZPx_QEznyaJ

Benedikte needing a helping hand down:
http://danapress.de/thumb.php/015553...LJ1W3G9wc5ICaV

Gallery from Facebook (with some unseen pictures):
https://www.facebook.com/News-about-...74402269394295
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Old 10-04-2016, 01:49 PM
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Also the prime minister did not meet them outside?
http://ppe-agency.com/500px/Oct2016/PPE16100430.jpg
Not on this occasion.

The DRF were there as guests of the Parliament, not the government, as such they were met by the Presidium of the Parliament in descending order of seniority.
The first to greet them was the Chairwoman, Pia Kjærsgaard, and as the Chairwoman she was presenting flowers to QMII.
The second in seniority presented flowers to Mary, the third to our Marie, and the fourth to Benedikte.

That order also decided who escorted whom up the stairs and inside.
The Chairwoman escorted QMII.
And since PH has retired, the second in seniority escorted Frederik, the third Mary and so on.
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Old 10-04-2016, 02:07 PM
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thanks Muhler
I thought I had seen the previous prime minister there, last year, was she not prime minister anymore?
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Old 10-04-2016, 02:33 PM
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No, as a consolation prize for loosing the last election, she became a member of the presidium. - That and three pints of freshly tapped blood every week...
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Old 10-04-2016, 02:50 PM
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Margrethe was seen taken the elevator up instead of the stairs. It's the first time I think. She get's older, and it goes fast now.
Did QMII take the Pater Noster?
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Old 10-04-2016, 03:37 PM
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Is it?

While I freely admit that the notion of the monarch opposing the government policy is extreme. I can nevertheless easily imagine a number of scenarios where a monarch might intervene.

Some of the greatest threats to the democracy IMO don't come from outside, but from within.

These are three current examples of proposed politics. I'll leave it to you to guess which countries I refer to. - That shouldn't be hard...

1) In a country where a political elite has taken complete power, distancing itself from their voters, who only have one serious alternative. That alternative is however unpalatable for many voters, because the party is either considered too extreme, too amateurish or the voters don't agree with the core values of that party.
The political elite has across the political divide decided to completely keep that party out of influence no matter what, even though it represents a large segment of the voters.
That's the background.
A bishop proposes to remove Christian symbols from churches, like crosses, and preferably turning them into multi-faith temples. In the holy name of political correctness the political elite decides to go ahead.

2) The nationalists have taken power in a country. These are people with a fondness for brown shirts and who tend to suffer from stiff right arms.
From the stance that this country is for the natives only, the government embarks on an "active" policy aimed on "persuading" people from certain other cultures and religions in particular to leave "voluntarily". - A new "kristallnacht" looming just around the corner.

3) At present your country is taking part in a bombing campaign in another country, against what are basically extremist barbarians who are in rebellion against the totalitarian government in that country. Your country would like to see that government toppled as well but that hasn't been possible.
Now, an old ally of that country intervenes militarily on behalf of the albeit totalitarian, but legal, government. That ally is a not inconsiderable military power.
A number of your politicians now advocate establishing no-fly zones over the country backed by force and if need be you shoot down planes from the intervening country. Other politicians advocate equipping rebellious fractions on the ground with advanced anti-aircraft weapons in order for them to shoot down planes from the intervening country.
The government in your country, smarting form having their pride hurt, agree. - Apparently ignoring the fact that such a course will lead to military confrontation, perhaps even war, with the intervening power. - Thus ending up defending the very same people you used to bomb.

- Finally may I remind everyone that the Nazis were democratically elected.

My personal opinion is that the right way to prevent any of the scenarios you described above. e.g. a fascist government taking over the country, is not to have a residual royal veto power, but rather to have constitutionally entrenched rights protected by an independent Constitutional Court as it is the case e.g. in the United States, the Federal Republic of Germany and, incidentally, if I am not mistaken , also now in the Kingdom of Sweden, which is the only monarchy in Europe that has formally abolished the royal veto power.

By the way, looking back at European history, in several countries that experienced the rise of fascist or similar right-wing populist regimes, e.g. Italy, Spain, Romenia, Bulgaria and Greece, the monarch either openly backed the regime or was otherwise unable to stop it. In other words, it seems to me that royal prerogative is rather ineffective in situations you describe as any attempt to use it against the wishes of an authoritarian government would simply cause the monarchy to be overthrown.
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Old 10-04-2016, 04:05 PM
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Old 10-04-2016, 07:07 PM
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article from DR with some pics
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Old 10-04-2016, 07:26 PM
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Not on this occasion.

The DRF were there as guests of the Parliament, not the government, as such they were met by the Presidium of the Parliament in descending order of seniority.
The first to greet them was the Chairwoman, Pia Kjærsgaard, and as the Chairwoman she was presenting flowers to QMII.
The second in seniority presented flowers to Mary, the third to our Marie, and the fourth to Benedikte.

That order also decided who escorted whom up the stairs and inside.
The Chairwoman escorted QMII.
And since PH has retired, the second in seniority escorted Frederik, the third Mary and so on.
Tak Muhler!!!! Lovely fall bouquets for the royal ladies today.

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Thank you for the video of the queen's arrival. Just realized that she's taking those stairs one at a time SIDEWAYS while interacting with the receiving line. I know she's had some mobility issues, but that is still impressive IMHO.
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Old 10-04-2016, 11:31 PM
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They all looked great today! I never fail to be impressed with their ability to stay awake – I'm half asleep just thinking about sitting through such an extended amount of drivel And kudos to Benedikte for saving it on the stairs.

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Margrethe was seen taken the elevator up instead of the stairs. It's the first time I think. She get's older, and it goes fast now.
IIRC she's actually been taking the elevator for a couple of years now – since the opening of the parliament in 2013, I believe. I seem to recall seeing her come out of an elevator with Mogens Lykketoft

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No, as a consolation prize for loosing the last election, she became a member of the presidium. - That and three pints of freshly tapped blood every week...
Classy remark... I'd hardly call it a consolation prize though. A place in the presidium is more than well-earned for a former PM.
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Old 10-05-2016, 04:44 AM
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I have to admit there were only two moments that made me go hmm and a few that made me giggle.

The first "hmm" was Princess Marie grabbing Joachim by the suit sleeve and pulling him from behind her and shoving him around and back beside his Aunt where he stood like a chastened child until Fred arrived and greeted him. Is he in the dog box or does Marie wear the pants in that family?

The second was Benedikte's near fall on the stairs. Thank goodness for the gentleman from the Presidium who steadied her. She is such an elegant and almost serene woman and seems to always be there for her sister. Kudos.

I had to smile at the way all the members of the RF managed the greetings. They seem to automatically double kiss if no hat brim or single as for Benedikte and Mary.

The still shots of Margrethe greeting Fred were funny and quite different to that seen on the video. In the still shot, Fred seemed to have turned his face away so far he was almost tilted backwards like a little boy. I almost expected him to go "eww gross!" like a kid after getting kissed.
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I have to admit there were only two moments that made me go hmm and a few that made me giggle.

The first "hmm" was Princess Marie grabbing Joachim by the suit sleeve and pulling him from behind her and shoving him around and back beside his Aunt where he stood like a chastened child until Fred arrived and greeted him. Is he in the dog box or does Marie wear the pants in that family?
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Yes, that part looked a bit "hmmm".
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My personal opinion is that the right way to prevent any of the scenarios you described above. e.g. a fascist government taking over the country, is not to have a residual royal veto power, but rather to have constitutionally entrenched rights protected by an independent Constitutional Court as it is the case e.g. in the United States, the Federal Republic of Germany and, incidentally, if I am not mistaken , also now in the Kingdom of Sweden, which is the only monarchy in Europe that has formally abolished the royal veto power.

By the way, looking back at European history, in several countries that experienced the rise of fascist or similar right-wing populist regimes, e.g. Italy, Spain, Romenia, Bulgaria and Greece, the monarch either openly backed the regime or was otherwise unable to stop it. In other words, it seems to me that royal prerogative is rather ineffective in situations you describe as any attempt to use it against the wishes of an authoritarian government would simply cause the monarchy to be overthrown.
It's fascinating topic.

And I disagree with your conclusion.
Because the surviving monarchies today are in contrast to the monarchies prior to WWII, deeply entrenched in the democracy and they have a much closer interaction and feeling for the ordinary people than before. Add to that the benefit of hindsight, which we have today of political extremism in whatever form it may come.
Not to mention that the monarchies know first hand what can be the result of political instability. - They risk loosing the crown.

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Classy remark... I'd hardly call it a consolation prize though. A place in the presidium is more than well-earned for a former PM.

That's odd, I don't seem to be able to multi-qoute.

Whatever, yes a membership of the Presidium of the Parliament is a very honorable post.
The Chairman is the highest post someone outside the DRF can hold. And outranks even the PM.
The other four members of the Presidium are selected from among the four largest parties. The Social Democrats, to which the former PM belonged is currently the largest party.
Interesting in this years context is that the extreme left-wing Unity List also has a member of the Presidium. The Unity List are staunchly republican and while the rest of the party's members opts to enter the hall, after the DRF has sat down (so they won't have to stand up as a sign of respect for the DRF), their member of the Presidium who represent the Parliament was duty-bound to receive the DRF.
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Old 10-05-2016, 12:22 PM
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a few more photos
the DRF walking inside the building
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZiQh7RAUP...B2016%2B7a.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aWsf5v38p...B2016%2B8a.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qtE6m1s7C...B2016%2B9a.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Zc1pJQL40...2016%2B10a.jpg

Mary's curtsy to the Queen
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3T8cDGiHn...B2016%2B2a.jpg

waiting
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-f7khTbXMk...B2016%2B3a.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0l8Zhmmfv...2016%2B21a.jpg

the Crown Prince
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Dh18PkiHr...B2016%2B4a.jpg

and as usual, today there is a Council of State at Christiansborg Palace, for the Queen and Frederik
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Thanks, Polyesco.

So it was Joachim who was escorted by the member of the Unity List.
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Thanks, Polyesco.
So it was Joachim who was escorted by the member of the Unity List.
And the poor man from the Unity List (I call them communists), in jeans and no tie, had to present a bouquet of flowers too, to a member of the DRF... How was he able to sleep the next night
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