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Old 10-19-2015, 11:42 AM
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thank you Muhler
Roskilde had posted the poll in another thread, under general news for the DRF, Maybe we can join them together.

I think both Frederik and Joachim can be quite proud of their wives. Adapting to a new country and culture and taking on their new roles in the royal family

they obviously have different roles and pressures on them, but both have done well. And of course, young beautiful women will always bring more attention then boring suits (no matter how handsome Frederik is)

But hopefully the press and the DRF PR highlight Frederik and Joachim's events more. They are certainly both very experience and knowledgeable, plus Frederik always adds his natural charm and down to earth approach.
Joachim adds his colorful fashion statements
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Old 11-07-2015, 06:29 AM
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I believe that my question fits here. There was an official visit by the then Kings of Greece (Konstantino -Anna Maria) in Denmark? These how about 2-2.5 years were in Greece after their marriage?
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Old 11-27-2015, 07:28 AM
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BT has written a number of articles lately based on a book by Søren Jakobsen, a former Ekstra Bladet journalist.
The book and a former similar book is about the most wealthy families in DK, families that are very discreet, do not belong to the jetset and who shun attention.
A number of these families, including the Lego-family, are also close to the DRF, but discreet.

And typical of wealthy and as such influential families they are also close to the royals, who in return bestow titles on members of these families. Like the title of chamberlain, which ranks above supreme court judge.

I haven't got time to go in details about this.
But it has come up before that the DRF are close to, and some would claim too close, to these very rich families.
It's no big issue IMO because the royals have always been close to the rich and powerful in any country at any time. Beforehand that was members of the nobility and as long as it doesn't influence the DRF it's no big deal.
And of course there are cases of "I rub your back, you rub mine".

Also in regards to the sale of Schackenborg, where all sides got a very good deal. - Joachim is now very wealthy and those who bought into Schackenborg got a good (tax deductible) price and the gratitude of the DRF.

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Old 05-11-2016, 12:09 PM
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Highness?

Hi,

Does anyone know the formal reason the grandchildren fo Queen Margrethe from her second son are highness instead of royal highness? Is this their way of maintaining the dignity of a royal prince and princess, while making the working royal family smaller?
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Old 05-11-2016, 12:29 PM
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Does anyone know the formal reason the grandchildren fo Queen Margrethe from her second son are highness instead of royal highness? Is this their way of maintaining the dignity of a royal prince and princess, while making the working royal family smaller?
AFAIK there has never been an official explanation from QMII, but you pretty much nailed it.
Felix, Nikolai, Henrik and Athena are de facto one generation away from being commoners. I.e. they shall not expect their children to have a royal title.
The same thing will most likely be the case for Isabella, Vincent and Josephine's grandchildren.

A qualified guess from me would be that there will be a lot of Count/esses of Montepezat around over the next generation or two.
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Old 08-12-2016, 10:52 PM
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In what year did the rigsforstander first begin in the Danish monarchy?
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Old 08-13-2016, 01:12 AM
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In what year did the rigsforstander first begin in the Danish monarchy?
The concept of a Rigsforstander goes back to at least the 1100's.

The word "forstander" means a headmaster or rather leader of a specific institution. Like a school, lunacy asylum, leprosy hospital, prison, house for poor and so on.
So when you add "rigs" to "forstander" you get headmaster/manager of the realm.
The first time the title of Rigsforstander is mentioned officially, with special flag and all, is in 1504.
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Old 04-28-2017, 07:19 AM
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Summary of three Q&A in Billed Bladet #17, 2017.

Here a Stine Gotfredsen would like to know how you become countess and baroness.

Jon Bloch Skipper explains that you either inherit the title or marry into the title. - Or as in the case with Countess Alexandra it's bestowed honorary and personally (it can't be inherited) by the Monarch.

- In DK the titles are empty, there are no privileges for nobles.

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Lars Holstein Jensen would like to know why Joachim's children are HH and not HRH, despite being in the line of succession.

Jon Bloch Skipper explains that HRH are in DK used by the Heir, the Heir's spouse. Younger children of the Monarch and their spouses. The husband of a reigning queen and the children of the Heir and their spouses.
Everybody else are titled HH.

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Tom Kaalund Sixhoi would like to know the title of Queen Ingrid after the death of Frederik IX.

Jon Bloch Skipper explains that her full title was Her Majesty Queen Ingrid of Denmark.
Queen Ingrid was not keen on the title of Enkedronning = Dovager. It reminded her of the widow of Frederik VIII, Dovager louise and such she requested being addressed as Enkedronning i.e. Dovager.
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Old 04-28-2017, 08:06 AM
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Summary of three Q&A in Billed Bladet #17, 2017.

Here a Stine Gotfredsen would like to know how you become countess and baroness.

Jon Bloch Skipper explains that you either inherit the title or marry into the title. - Or as in the case with Countess Alexandra it's bestowed honorary and personally (it can't be inherited) by the Monarch.

Can the Danish monarch grant new, hereditary titles of nobility ?
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Old 04-28-2017, 08:48 AM
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Can the Danish monarch grant new, hereditary titles of nobility ?
Yes. She made PH Count of Montepezat and their children and grandchildren inherit that title.
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Old 04-28-2017, 07:51 PM
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The queen created her sons Count of Monpezat, hereditary for their male-line descendants:

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Amalienborg, den 30. april 2008

Hendes Majestæt Dronningen har besluttet, at Hans Kongelige Højhed Kronprinsen samt Hans Kongelige Højhed Prins Joachim tillægges titel af ’greve af Monpezat’. Hendes Kongelige Højhed Kronprinsesse Mary samt Hans Kongelige Højhed Prins Joachims kommende ægtefælle frk. Marie Cavallier vil som følge heraf føre titlen ’grevinde af Monpezat’.

Titlen føres endvidere af efterkommere født i lovligt ægteskab, i overensstemmelse med de almindelige regler, der gælder herom, hvilket vil sige, at titlen ’greve af Monpezat’ videreføres af mandlige descendenter, medens kvindelige descendenter fører titlen ’komtesse af Monpezat’.

Der er tale om en ny, yderligere titel der kan anvendes i tilknytning til de eksisterende. Titlen berører ikke de nugældende prædikater. Navn og titel vil herefter i kort form eksempelvis kunne være:

. Hans Kongelige Højhed Kronprins Frederik, greve af Monpezat
. Hendes Kongelige Højhed Kronprinsesse Mary, grevinde af Monpezat
. Hans Kongelige Højhed Prins Christian, greve af Monpezat
. Hendes Kongelige Højhed Prinsesse Isabella, komtesse af Monpezat

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Princess Dagmar (1890-1961), daughter of King Frederik VIII married the untitled nobleman Jørgen Castenskjold in 1922 without him or any of their descendants receiving any titles and without her being stripped of her royal title (atleast as far is I can tell).
Princess Dagmar was indeed stripped of her royal title, becoming Mrs. Castenskiold. Princess Elisabeth did not marry her partner Claus Hermansen for the reason that she would have become Mrs. Hermansen.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:07 PM
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The actor Sir Roger Moore died today. Apparently he was a friend of the DRF - I remember seeing a picture of him and his wife at Mary and Frederik's wedding. According to the news report I read, the funeral will be in Monaco. I wonder if any of the DRF will attend.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:11 PM
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The actor Sir Roger Moore died today. Apparently he was a friend of the DRF - I remember seeing a picture of him and his wife at Mary and Frederik's wedding. According to the news report I read, the funeral will be in Monaco. I wonder if any of the DRF will attend.
I don't think so.
It was more his wife, who mingled in circles around the DRF. I think a wreath is about the most to be expected.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:25 PM
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I hope the Crown Prince do attend Sir Roger's funeral as he was an invited guest at their wedding.

However, I've also got a question. The offspring of the monarch and the children of the heir are all HRHs at the moment, I understand. Does that styling ever drop back to HH? For instance are Isabella, Vincent and Josephine HRHs for life or, after the death of their father King Frederik, do they automatically then become His or Her Highnesses, giving way to Christian's children? I just think if Christian himself has four or five children there are going to be quite a lot of HRHs still buzzing around for the next seventy to eighty years.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:30 PM
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No unlike the Dutch, degree to the throne doesn't effect ones title or place. Like in UK, once a HrH always. The children of the monarch, and children of their heir apparent. Even when Christian is king, his siblings will still be the children of the former king. Their kids, like Joachims, will be HH. Like Joachim won't be HH when his brother is king. Princess benedikte is still hrh even though her sister is queen. If she outlives her sister, and her nephew is king, nothing will change.

Roger attended the weddings of both Joachim and Fred. But it's not uncommon to see celebrity guests. His wife is a very wealthy Danish-Swedish socialite, thanks to the fortunes of her first two husbands. I'd be surprised if either prince attended though it would be nice to see. They attended events at the Monaco palace. A Grimmauld presence, considering the funeral is in Monaco, may be more likely.
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