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Old 01-04-2016, 12:34 PM
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I hope they do too. I said on some level. I meant no offense. Sorry if it seemed that way. If I didnt enjoy and respect the traditions I wouldnt be here.
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Old 01-04-2016, 12:44 PM
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He was in fact very much the regular chap. He's the one responsible for setting the tables.
I'm sure he washes his hands so that not my major concern, but how about fingerprints?
Fingerprints, scratches in old family heirloom silver and porcelain, the risk on damaging 17th, 18th or 19th C expensive handwoven silk damast tablelinen...

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Old 01-04-2016, 12:55 PM
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Fingerprints, scratches in old family heirloom silver and porcelain, the risk on damaging 17th, 18th or 19th C expensive handwoven silk damast tablelinen...
I'm pretty sure, that the "Taffeldækker" of the Royal Danish Court knows exactly what he is doing....I don't think he would be working there for long if he didn't.


The most discussed thing in this years New Years Banquet...Cutlery....
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Old 01-04-2016, 01:03 PM
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The most discussed thing in this years New Years Banquet...Cutlery....
closely followed by "gloves - or the lack thereof"
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Old 01-04-2016, 01:12 PM
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closely followed by "gloves - or the lack thereof"
Have I missed an obviously fascinating discussion about "gloves - or not"
Please point me in the right direction...
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Old 01-04-2016, 09:51 PM
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Thanks for the comments because I, too, was startled by the way the cutlery was being laid down. I reflected to myself that whenever I have seen cutlery being laid (at that 'level') it's usually been in the context of a film or a television period drama, which is perhaps giving an unrealistic version of setting the table.

Perhaps what we just saw is, in fact, more usual.
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Old 01-05-2016, 12:32 AM
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I think you could be right about our expectations being based upon what we see in period dramas. I've been hunting around for footage of table-setting at Buckingham Palace and other British Royal residences, and none I've been able to find depicts anyone wearing gloves to set the table. This Buckingham Palace footman is handling things in such a slapdash way that she'd give Carson the vapours: . There's also some footage of table-setting in the Banquet episode of the Year at Windsor Castle series: commencing about 33.15.

The things that surprised me most about the Danish banquet video were the fact the table was made of pieces of timber placed on top of collapsible stands, similar to the way we do things at local community halls rather than the finely crafted and highly polished timber seen in the UK palaces, and the fact the bread rolls were stuffed into the napkins by a man with bare hands. I would have expected gloves for the handling of food.

I extend my belated thanks to Muhler for providing us with that video. I enjoyed it very much, and it has provided us with something to talk about for days.
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Old 01-05-2016, 01:00 AM
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I have a hunch that gloves are an issue for a time and place. Consider the sanitary conditions of 100 years ago: running water and soap, and nail care, likely unheard of for a servant, so that gloves were the 'necessary' cloak to hide the unpleasantness of the servants' rough, raw hands, and splintered nails. Just an idea.

Then we have now: most everyone we saw in your videos, Roslyn, could be hand models. Their hands are clean and well-manicured. Working with gloves would be unwieldy imo. Why bother with them if the sanitary conditions do not require it? Likely every worker at the table has washed their hands with hot water and soap. Just my guess.
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Old 01-05-2016, 01:46 AM
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I also very much enjoyed the video and watched it a couple of time. What surprised me the most was the placing of the roll in the napkin with bare hands, I had always thought that some type of glove when in handling food would of been worn. I do remember seeing the video of a formal dinner table being prepared at Buckingham Palace that the men wore white gloves and measured every piece of dinnerware that was to be placed on the table as to the correct placement. When I go to my local grocery store, Treasure Island here, the staff in the hot food dept when meals are already prepared, they wear white plastic gloves all the time for sanity purposes. Being picky about who handles my food, this roll would not of been consumed by me besides I am gluten free.

Yet if I ever had been fortunate enough to get an invite to such a dinner with QM, that dinner roll would of had a place of honor in my kitchen in a crystal container for all to see and look at....don't touch the Queen's dinner roll...............
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:05 AM
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Here are some more pics of the first reception:



** pm: Mary et Marie, radieuses dès le 1er janvier **


** pp: Nouvel An royal au Danemark : Mary bronzée, Marie lumineuse... et Henrik retraité **
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:18 AM
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Today, is the second day of New Year's Courts and there are held 2 courts at 9.50 am (no photos) and 11.30 am (photos)

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5 January 2016, 9:50 am
The Queen holds New Year's court for Supreme Court judges, the Royal Life Guards and Guard Hussar Regiment's Officer Corps in Christian VII's Palace, Amalienborg.
The Crown Princely Couple are present.
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The Queen holds New Year's court for the diplomatic corps at Christiansborg Palace, Copenhagen.
The Crown Princely Couple are present.
First pictures from today's second court at Christiansborg Palace:

Queen Margrethe arriving:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CX9BKMNWcAA4o4L.jpg

Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess Mary arriving:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CX9CC2GWcAA99CS.jpg
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...84&oe=570C0E10
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...87&oe=570DF6E1
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...47&oe=571225EE

Crown Princess Mary looking lovely in a (new?) NY Court dress. I guess she has taken off the cape inside.
ADDED: No, it is (as usual) a recycled gown. She has just removed the silk part, but it is recycled from New Year's Dinner last year and again during the Dutch state visit: http://imbo2.tv2.dk/users/editorial/...74eaebdfa6497e
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:21 AM
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closely followed by "gloves - or the lack thereof"
And Frederik's feathery hat... While checking out royal weddings on Youtube, I came across the video of Margarethe and Henrik's wedding. Her father was wearing an identical hat, which made me wonder if perhaps Frederik's hat originally belonged to his grandfather or is it new? I believe the sabre he uses belonged to Frederik IX.

The table setting video was really interesting - did you notice the elephant pattern on the tablecloths? Cool.
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:44 AM
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For the first time the DRF has published pictures from today's first New Year's Court at Amailienborg

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5 January 2016, 9:50 am
The Queen holds New Year's court for Supreme Court judges, the Royal Life Guards and Guard Hussar Regiment's Officer Corps in Christian VII's Palace, Amalienborg.
The Crown Princely Couple are present.
http://kongehuset.dk/sites/default/f...affelsalen.jpg
http://kongehuset.dk/sites/default/f...ehusarerne.jpg
http://kongehuset.dk/sites/default/f...fficererne.jpg

Full gallery from Kongehuset.dk
http://kongehuset.dk/menu/foto-video...-officerskorps

BT has great HQ pictures:

With this beautiful almost iconic picture. A Queen with her successors, The Crown Prince couple behind her
http://a.bimg.dk/node-images/908/11/...r-nytrskur.jpg
http://www.bt.dk/sites/default/files...r-nytrskur.jpg
http://www.bt.dk/sites/default/files...r-nytrskur.jpg
http://ekstrabladet.dk/incoming/donf...0/51853232.jpg

Great pictures from DM:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...1993712362.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...1994517761.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...1994552699.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...1994799643.jpg

A good video from today's court from Billed Bladet:
VIDEO: Dronning Margrethe alene på arbejde | BILLED-BLADET

Noticed this comment to it:
"Great videoclip..a strong and serene queen Margrethe..maybe walking in front on her own now but with her son crown prince Frederik and his wife right behind her!..A lovingly crown prince-couple who still can't keep the eyes from each other...smiling and flirtations they are..Last but not least, a crown princess where her warmth ozes from her face at every handshake and eye contact she gives..
Hugs.."


Huge gallery from sn.dk
sn.dk

http://sn.dk/modules/xphoto/cache/31...643_2517_2.jpg F&M
http://sn.dk/modules/xphoto/cache/33...182_2890_2.jpg
http://sn.dk/modules/xphoto/cache/29..._0_0_0_0_2.jpg
http://sn.dk/modules/xphoto/cache/42..._0_0_0_0_2.jpg
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:58 AM
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Wow. They look gorgeous. Love Mary in cream and the Queen is well...the Queen! Fantastic.
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Old 01-05-2016, 08:13 AM
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The Daily Mail has already published an article.
Mary looks amazing
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Old 01-05-2016, 10:32 AM
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Thank you for the nice pictures, Roskilde. I imagine we'll be seeing more of F & M accompanying the Queen now that Henrik has stepped down.

As for the DM - well, at least they spelled Frederik's name right. About the pendant on Mary's necklace, they said it was a diamond, which I doubt. I'm thinking possibly it's morganite, which has a pink/peach color. In any case, she looks great.
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Old 01-05-2016, 11:35 AM
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A BB gallery: SE BILLEDERNE: Dronning Margrethe til kur med diplomatiet | BILLED-BLADET

Nice to see the various national costumes, a pity though the light is so sharp.

Perhaps someone on this international forum would like to add a comment to some of the costumes?

A nine pic gallery: Margrethe til nytårskur uden sin prins: Sådan klarede hun den alene - Jubii
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Old 01-05-2016, 02:03 PM
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Thank You Roskilde for all the great pictures. I really really did enjoy this trip through the Courts tonight. It was nice to see all the guests in their national dress and the queen looked warm in her gown. As usual Frederik and Mary still make goofy eyes at each other.......nice to see that love is still there after all these years. They make a wonderful couple!
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Old 01-05-2016, 02:32 PM
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I''m not sure I like the coat worn like this, but overall, I think Crown Princess Mary looks lovely.
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Old 01-05-2016, 04:15 PM
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Okay, let's talk uniforms for the nerds.

http://imageservice.nordjyske.dk/ima...rop&scale=both
Notice the lackey at the door. The style of uniform down to his shoes is from late 1700's.
He's called a runner, in contrast to those lackeys you seen in dark green uniforms who are called a "jæger" I.e. a hunter.
Now the hunters were a a mix of game wardens and early special forces. Some were recruited among the game wardens of large estates, who occasionally served inside at court, others were picked from the brightest young officers with most initiative. They were destined for a higher career, either within the military or administration. Sometimes they served as clerks at the administration, sometimes as servants and sometimes for clandestine use, i.e intelligence officers.
Common for both these officers and the game wardens was that they in times of war were issued rifles or in the 1600's a very expensive repeating air gun, which were cranked up by a spring and fed by a magazine rather than being reloaded for each shot. Who operated more or less independently.
By the late 1700's most European countries had established specialized jäger-regiments in green uniforms and armed with rifles. So the lackeys wearing green uniforms stems from this period.

The Master of Ceremonies seen in the photo, wear a uniform that is younger. I'll estimate first half of the 1800's. With his marshal's staff as a symbol of his status as a senior court official.
He is not wearing a sabre but a parade rapier.

http://imageservice.nordjyske.dk/ima...rop&scale=both
Here is the honor guard from the Guards Hussars.
The uniforms, except for the kepi (which in French inspired and mid 1800's) is from the Napoleonic period.
Hussars, who were originally Hungarian light cavalry, became immensely fashionable in the second half of the 1700's after their fearsome reputation as irregular cavalry during the Seven Years War and the uniform is directly modeled on Hungarian fashion of the period. I.e. no buttons but instead strings were used to fasten the clothes.
The blue jacket is called a dolman, while the fur-jacket is simply called the fur. The white horsehair adorning the kepi is meant to resemble a mane, not the horse's tail! Not buttheads here please!
In contrast to previous regular cavalry, like dragoons and cuirassiers, the hussars use short boots because as light cavalry they would rarely ride in dense formations with the knees locked behind the knees of those riding beside you. So there was no need for long and very stiff cavalry boots to protect the legs.

http://imageservice.nordjyske.dk/ima...rop&scale=both
Here is the honor guard from the Royal Lifeguard Regiment.
The guards battalion of the Royal Lifeguard have three uniforms:
A blue, which is seen on a day to day basis.
A red which is the gala uniform.
And the gala-A, which is seen here.
- It's actually the same uniform as the red gala, except for the white cord, a lanyard, which you can see connecting the bearskin caps with the uniform-tunic. The lanyard was only worn in battle and it served the purpose of preventing the (expensive!) cap from being lost if it was shot off in battle. The soldiers were forbidden to break formation in order to retrieve their headgear.
As a combat regiment with a history going back more than 350 years the lanyard is worn with pride.
The Royal Lifeguard is however not the oldest regiment in DK, that honor befell to a now amalgamated regiment that was formed almost 400 years ago. Now the honor officially belongs to Jutland Dragoon Regiment, Joachim's regiment. Because amalgamated regiments retain the seniority of the oldest regiment.

The lackey standing at the door in the background, is a rider, seconded from the royal stables as assistant servants.
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