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Old 08-28-2013, 11:41 AM
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I think they do get a lot of money in times like these. Especially the Queen & Frederik. Are the children included in Alexandra's support or will Joachim pay additional child support?
I'm not sure off hand whether Joachim pay child support.

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What exactly do they have to pay for with the money. I know from other royal houses that they decrease the amount because it 'looks better', but in return specific costs are paid for by the government, like a left-pocket right-pocket transaction.
Everything excluding security and maintenaince of the exterior of the palaces.
Staff salaries. Upkeep of the palaces interior.
Entertaining official visitors - i.e. state dinners. And in some cases housing visitors. Or when giving a return dinner.
Administration, catering for the staff, paying for uniforms (They are expensive!). Paying for the staff, when they are out to prepare an official visit either in DK or abroad.
Personal expences in connection with being on the job, including transport in cars (but not the royal yacht or planes).
In short the apanage to QMII cover the expences for a service business with around 160 employees. - Including salaray to the management - the Regent Couple.
Then we have gifts for foreign heads of states and so on and so on.

So the expences will fluctuate a bit with a tendency to go up, simply because the prices go up. But also because there are different expences, depending on jubilees, large family events and so on.

Personal expences and expences covered by the apanage are vat excempted, that's a 25% refund.

As I understand it the court presents an estimate to Statsministeriet (The PM's office) outlining the expences for the following year and unless that estimate is unreasonable it will be approved. However it also the PM's office which may "suggest" that savings may be a good idea, but the PM cannot demand savings because the court is supposed to be independent of the government and it would be most unusual indeed if the PM's office would not approve of the expences or the estimate.
Because that would mean that the civil servants advising the DRF are not doing their job properly or that the DRF is overriding the advise they get.
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Old 08-28-2013, 02:06 PM
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Thanks Muhler. I guess they pay for a lot more than other RF's hence get more money. Seems that in Denmark the situation is not as bad as in other countries where the amount is much less but 'hidden costs' are paid by the government.
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Old 08-28-2013, 03:29 PM
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You are welcome.

Yes, you are probably right.

Apart from this, the expences by the DRF are public to a certain extent. I believe there are a number of posts in this thread dissecting that.

Of course the DRF, just like other royals, get favourable discounts in various forms and I can imagine that they rarely have to pay for admittance to anything but that's really peanuts viewed in the big picture.

Example: Mary wear a dress worth say 15.000 DKK in stores, to an official event of some sort. Okay, because businesses will be more than delighted to see Mary wear their products she can probably get a favorable discount. So let's say she pays 12.000 DKK. Vat is refundable, that's minus 25 %, so Mary ends up paying 9.000 DKK for the dress. - Thus Mary doesn't have to get such a dress for free and thereby end up being in some kind of debt.
I mention that because it is often suggested that Mary (and other royals) get their clothes almost habitually for free. It may indeed happen from time to time but I think that is the exception rather than the rule.

The main expences in the DRF go to simply running the whole show.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:06 AM
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Summary of a Q&A in Billed Bladet #39, 2013.

Where a Sandra Henriksen would like to know whether the DRF are allowed to own shares.

Jon Bloch Skipper replies that they sure are.

According to the accounts published in 2012 QMII have invested 12 million DKK of the allocated funds to the DRF in shares and other investments. The details are however confidential.

Apart from that a part of her private fortune is presumably also invested in shares.
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:34 PM
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Example: Mary wear a dress worth say 15.000 DKK in stores, to an official event of some sort. Okay, because businesses will be more than delighted to see Mary wear their products she can probably get a favorable discount. So let's say she pays 12.000 DKK. Vat is refundable, that's minus 25 %, so Mary ends up paying 9.000 DKK for the dress. - Thus Mary doesn't have to get such a dress for free and thereby end up being in some kind of debt.
I mention that because it is often suggested that Mary (and other royals) get their clothes almost habitually for free. It may indeed happen from time to time but I think that is the exception rather than the rule.
Technically, it's minus 20% - but hey.

Besides - no matter what discount Mary et. al. recieves, it doens't matter on the budget. If they get a million they spend (or save) a million, no matter what the dress cost.

But you are right - when someone (republican Ekstra Bladet) "adds up" what Mary's outfit "costs", it isn't necessarily a reflection on what Mary paid for the outfit. Some things may (very likely) have come as gifts, others at discounts and some jewelry is loaned, so while Mary may be wearing a 50.000 dollar necklace, it doesn't mean that Danish taxpayers "wasted" 50K on a necklace.
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