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Old 07-30-2008, 04:05 AM
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Why stop with the paps? If he should endeavour to highlight the annoyances that are, then tabloid journalists and authors alike should certainly share in such a mention...
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Old 07-30-2008, 04:24 AM
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"Stuck in traffic." I don't buy that. Even their Royal Highnesses have watches and know how to time a drive from northern Jylland down to Gråsten. It's motorway almost all of the way. Maybe they snubbed the photographers, who did give them a hard time in Skagen, but don't fall over the papparazzi, because everybody on this forum is "ooing" and "cooing" over all those lovely shots from Jylland. The fact is that the annual photo-op at Gråsten has become a royal tradition and we want to see our Crown Prince and his adorable family at this event. If he has a problem with the paparazzi, he should take it up with the palace press secretary and deal with it through the proper channels. No need to take it out on the Danes, who just want too see their Queen, her oldest son and his family together.
I´m agree with you, but you know it have to be very dificult when you want to relax and have a good time with your family, but you can´t do it beause there are a couple of paparazzi taken pictures all the time.
So I think they are angry with the press for that, so I think this is the reasson of why they didn´t attend the Photo-op at Gråsten.
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Old 07-30-2008, 04:30 AM
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Photo session at Grasten

Did Prins Joachim, Alexandra and their children ever or on a regular basis ever appear for the annual photo sessions during the summer stay at Grasten?

Perhaps, Prins Joachim and Pss Marie shall attend next year.
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Old 07-30-2008, 05:15 AM
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Frederik and Mary got stock in trafic. One hardly can help that. I got stock in the same kind og trafic last weekend - and I know precisely where they got stock.

It is at the same spot on the same freeway in Jutland every time..... and it is incredeble irritating - espacially if you are the one who is stuck and you have an appointment.
Thankyou Lilla. Those who don't live in Denmark may not be aware of the traffic congestion at the end of the holiday period for the Danes.

Thanks to JessRules for the photos showing that Frederik and Mary really did arrive later that afternoon.

Tomorrow the Crown Prince Couple make an official visit to two towns in the area. The dates for this event were announced in December 2006, so anyone watching the scedule of activities would already know the couple were expected at Graasten this week, and were not snubbing the Queen.
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Old 07-30-2008, 05:21 AM
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If there is a regular photoshoot - no official event but something that has become a habit over the years - I think at least the CP couple should make an effort and show up. I don't care if they are angry with the media or not, if they are there are other ways to address this, and I'd rather give no reason at all for their absence than telling that they got stuck in traffic. What a silly excuse. Who are they? Commuters who are driving to work? That's a joke. It's their decision when to show themselves / their children during vacation but such photoshoots should take priority. I personally like the Danish attitude that they are often with their children on private occasions or even bring them along to events, something that the Dutch or Spanish never do, simply because I believe that the earlier the children learn to cope or the more natural the relation with the media becomes the better because they will have to live with it for the rest of their lifes, especially their heir / heiresses. Therefore it's important to respect such photoshoots with the monarch couple because people want to see the line of succession = Fred (& Mary) plus Christian (& Isabella). Joachim and Marie would be a nice asset but apart from that they are rather unimportant.
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Old 07-30-2008, 05:34 AM
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If you can prove they weren't stuck in traffic, then by all means...

Of course, anything is possible, but if 'we' cannot prove it, then hows about sticking with the facts as have been provided. There's an idea!

Theoretical conspiracies. Wouldn't be a royal forum without them, eh..haha.
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Old 07-30-2008, 05:41 AM
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If there is a regular photoshoot - no official event but something that has become a habit over the years - I think at least the CP couple should make an effort and show up. I don't care if they are angry with the media or not, if they are there are other ways to address this, and I'd rather give no reason at all for their absence than telling that they got stuck in traffic. What a silly excuse. Who are they? Commuters who are driving to work? That's a joke. It's their decision when to show themselves / their children during vacation but such photoshoots should take priority. I personally like the Danish attitude that they are often with their children on private occasions or even bring them along to events, something that the Dutch or Spanish never do, simply because I believe that the earlier the children learn to cope or the more natural the relation with the media becomes the better because they will have to live with it for the rest of their lifes, especially their heir / heiresses. Therefore it's important to respect such photoshoots with the monarch couple because people want to see the line of succession = Fred (& Mary) plus Christian (& Isabella). Joachim and Marie would be a nice asset but apart from that they are rather unimportant.
I entirely agree. Also, lets not forget that Frederik and Mary, were they "stuck in traffic," is trailed by at least one car with police protection officers, who could have put on the blue lights or called for reinforcements to bring our Crown Prince couple and their children to Gråsten on time!
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Old 07-30-2008, 05:51 AM
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I entirely agree. Also, lets not forget that Frederik and Mary, were they "stuck in traffic," is trailed by at least one car with police protection officers, who could have put on the blue lights or called for reinforcements to bring our Crown Prince couple and their children to Gråsten on time!
Not only that ... show me the photographer would go up to QM and say sorry M'am but I can't wait another 30 min for the CP couple to arrive as I have another important photoshoot on my agenda today. This traffic jam "excuse" exposes a disgraceful and disrespectful attitude of the CP couple towards the danish taxpayer public. Bottom line: either give a really good reason for your absence or show up at such traditional occasions as the annual Grasten shoot.
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Old 07-30-2008, 05:57 AM
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Okay, we get it!
Can we please move away from the whole traffic jam discussion. It's been done ad nauseum at this point. Move on and nit pick about something else if it pleases you, but stay on topic.

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Bottom line: either give a really good reason for your absence or show up at such traditional occasions as the annual Grasten shoot.
Did Henrik give a good reason for his abscence in the last years, did Joachim?
And is it really such an important traditional occasion when Henrik and Joachim usually don't attend?
Just because M&F were there in the last years it is suddenly a must-do for them and if they don't show up it's disrespectful towards the Danish taxpayers?

Besides, the photo-shoots usually were a few days later, this time there was an earlier date chosen. The CP couple tried to be there but they couldn't make it on time. I think it's a pity but I don't have a problem with it.
And I almost hope they will create a new tradition of not showing up at this occasion regularly.


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Also, lets not forget that Frederik and Mary, were they "stuck in traffic," is trailed by at least one car with police protection officers, who could have put on the blue lights or called for reinforcements to bring our Crown Prince couple and their children to Gråsten on time!
Oh yes, they should have used blue light and called for reinforcements - like in emergency cases - because it's so important to be in Graasten on time to show the Danish media their respect. The Danish media people always showed respect to "their" CP couple and their privacy, didn't they?

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"Stuck in traffic." I don't buy that.
Well, I buy it. Others my fill book with lies but I think the DRF wouldn't use such an excuse if it wasn't true.
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Old 07-30-2008, 07:47 AM
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And some pictures from the Photo Session
Henrik
Ingrid and Mummy
Mormor and Richard
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Her Maj & Henrik

Two pictures of Frederik & Mary (with their children) arriving at the Palace later in the day

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Could someone tell me what "Mormor" means?
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Old 07-30-2008, 08:44 AM
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These photoshoots are intended to give the press access to the family and children in a controlled setting, so they don't get chased by paparazzi.
The couple was chased to the beach; therefore the agreement was broken, therefore they don't show up.
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As far as I know such an agreement doesn’t exist in Denmark. It´s a specific Dutch thing and the Danes have another picture policy. And why should they punish all photographers collectively? This would be utterly silly since those photographers who gather in Grasten are more or less the “friendly” ones who document Frederik and Mary´s work throughout the year. I assume Frederik and Mary know perfectly well, that they depend on them. Royalblog.nl has an entry about the photosession: The photographers are disappointed about the meagre result of the photoshot. And who could blame them? At least two of them travelled all the way from The Netherlands to Denmark. And these two are by no means paparazzis. It seems the DRF also doesn´t bother to announce who is part of the photosession. And of course pictures including Frederik and Mary sell much better than what they got last weekend. Let´s face it: Margrethe in her chequered dress (just like last year) and Henrik in crocs and an age old shirt: they come across like an ordinary retired couple who was interrupted during their garden work and sat down at the stairs for a snapshot. Thank god for the SWB branch, who at least put a bit of effort into their appearance. If I was a professional photographer I would be annoyed too. The DRF should think about organizing these photo shots a bit more professionally.
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Could someone tell me what "Mormor" means?
I am not entirely sure about this - but I believe that Mormor means Grandmother. Danish members of thread - am I correct?
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Did Henrik give a good reason for his abscence in the last years, did Joachim?
And is it really such an important traditional occasion when Henrik and Joachim usually don't attend?
Just because M&F were there in the last years it is suddenly a must-do for them and if they don't show up it's disrespectful towards the Danish taxpayers?

Besides, the photo-shoots usually were a few days later, this time there was an earlier date chosen. The CP couple tried to be there but they couldn't make it on time. I think it's a pity but I don't have a problem with it.
And I almost hope they will create a new tradition of not showing up at this occasion regularly.



Oh yes, they should have used blue light and called for reinforcements - like in emergency cases - because it's so important to be in Graasten on time to show the Danish media their respect. The Danish media people always showed respect to "their" CP couple and their privacy, didn't they?


Well, I buy it. Others my fill book with lies but I think the DRF wouldn't use such an excuse if it wasn't true.
Let me just remind you that this is the second time this year that CP Frederik and family have been absent from a royal event. They didn't show up for the Queen's birthday either. Frederik was tooo busy sailing off the coast of Miami.There are so few occasions during the year, when there is a chance of getting all the main players of the monarchy together. I personaly think that CP Frederik and his wife could have made the effort to show up on time, but maybe I am just oldfashioned?
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Ok let's just stop with that!! they were not here this year and so what! they have the right to spend holidays only the four of them and with friends! they don't have to apologise for that or give an explanation!

we have a lot of pics for holidays this year and it's only a beginning with the trip in Australia!

they will be there next year that's all
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I am not entirely sure about this - but I believe that Mormor means Grandmother. Danish members of thread - am I correct?
"Mormor" is the maternal grandmother in Danish.
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Ok let's just stop with that!! they were not here this year and so what! they have the right to spend holidays only the four of them and with friends! they don't have to apologise for that or give an explanation!

we have a lot of pics for holidays this year and it's only a beginning with the trip in Australia!

they will be there next year that's all
This is not about quantity. This about getting the main characters of the DRF together for a picture. We want to see the Queen with her oldest son and adorable grandchildren. The stay at Gråsten castle is funded by the Danish taxpayers. We are paying for the DRF to use Gråsten during their summerstay. Is it too much to ask, that we get them together for some nice snaps?
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Whether this photo op is official or not is irrelevant. Royals are highly dependent on tradition, image and being in the public eye. Royalty in itself is irrelevant in todays society. If they want to stay relevant as a royal family and keeper of traditions and monarchy they need to make sure people associate them with royal life. When the Queen is gone and Frederik does not immediately fill the vacuum in peoples mind as the regent he may have hard time being considered relevant - and the moment they as royal family is irrelevant they are gone.
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Thank you so much for all the lovely photos, its nice to see at least some members of the family with the Queen & Prince Henrik.
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Whether this photo op is official or not is irrelevant. Royals are highly dependent on tradition, image and being in the public eye. Royalty in itself is irrelevant in todays society. If they want to stay relevant as a royal family and keeper of traditions and monarchy they need to make sure people associate them with royal life. When the Queen is gone and Frederik does not immediately fill the vacuum in peoples mind as the regent he may have hard time being considered relevant - and the moment they as royal family is irrelevant they are gone.
I entirely agree.The slide towards that irrelevance has begun, mostly because we now view our royals like we view any other celebrity. It turns out they are humans like all the rest of us - as described in my book - and if they can not provide us with something to look up to, it's over! That is also why a photo-op like the one at Gråsten is a stupid thing to miss for a Crown Prince and his famly. Their absence is undermining the very structure the monarchy is build on: Respect!
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