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montecarlo  Posted: Nov 5th, 2003 - 9:24 am
Ernst seems to be more affectionate towards Caroline than she is with him.
I wonder if this has something to do with Ernst growing up in more of a 'normal' family than Caroline.

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Anyway, I heard that Ernst wasn't a good father to his boys. He never treated them the way he treats Alexandra. Maybe it has to do with the him always wanting a daughter. I don't know.
Watching a friend of mine, some men make better Dad's the second time around.
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montecarlo  Posted: Nov 5th, 2003 - 10:44 am

Ernst's sons, Ernestie and Christian, currently live in London with their mother. They visit their father during the summer and winter holidays. Do you know what I don't understand? How Ernst can be such a caring father towards Caroline's children but not towards his own. He treats his two step-sons, Andrea and Pierre, better than his own two sons. I wonder if Ernestie and Christian resent him.
You forget perhaps that in a divorce, the children are often used as a weapon between the warring adults. We don't know which parent the children are more supportive of through the divorce. It wouldn't surprise me, if Chantal still has hurtful feelings to Ernst.
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You're absolutely right, Christian. But wouldn't you resent your father for not being their for you when you needed him? For cheating on your mother? For treating his stepchildren better than he has ever treated you? Deep down, I think the boys harbour some anger. That is why, they probably chose to live with their mother.

Chantal has every right to be upset. She spent sixteen years of her life loving and caring for this man. How dare he cheat on her! There are so many women in this world, he could have had any of them. But no! he chose her best friend. For some, it can take years to get over the "first love." In Chantal's case, it may take years for her to build back the trust she had men.
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But wouldn't you resent your father for not being their for you when you needed him?
I resented him enough as it was, as I grew up.
I have no experience with growing up in a separated household, because my parents elected to stay together.

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That is why, they probably chose to live with their mother.
Custody as I understand it, is usually given over to the mother, until they are of legal age.

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Chantal has every right to be upset. She spent sixteen years of her life loving and caring for this man.
You have firsthand knowledge of this, I presume ?

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For some people, it can take years for them to get over their first love. In Chantal's case, it may take years for her to rebuild trust in men.
I am glad to hear that you are supportive of Chantal. I trust you have written her a letter expressing your support from afar ?
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Christian: I resented him enough as it was, as I grew up. I have no experience with growing up in a separated household, because my parents elected to stay together.


Monte Carlo: I'm sorry to hear that. Well, I chose not to have a relationship with my father.

Christian: Custody as I understand it, is usually given over to the mother, until they are of legal age.

Monte Carlo: I suppose your right.

Christian: You have firsthand knowledge of this, I presume?

Monte Carlo: No, I don't have first hand knowledge. But even so, I still think Chantal had every right to be angry. The man, whom she thought loved her, betrayed her.

Christian: Am glad to hear that you are supportive of Chantal. I trust you have written her a letter expressing your support from afar?


Monte Carlo: If I knew Chantal's address then, yes, I would write her a letter of support.
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you two are something else!!! christian and monte
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kittencrews .... perchance some more pictures coming up ? :)
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let's get off the subject of Ernst being a good father for a moment and admire the way he loves Caroline!!
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If I knew Chantal's address then, yes, I would write her a letter of support.
As I understand it, all Swiss living outside of Switzerland have to be 'registered' with the local consulate. So, you could send a letter to Chantal Hochuli c/o Swiss Consulate, London.
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and admire the way he loves Caroline!!
A question ... is this a "before Ernst got married" shot, or an after pic ?
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It looks as though, Ernst, is shoving his tongue down her throat. Caroline, if he ever cheats on you, honey give me a call. I'll straighten him out

Isn't this a sweet picture of Caroline and Stefano?

Caroline taking a stroll with her love, Stefano.

Christian: As I understand it, all Swiss living outside of Switzerland have to be 'registered' with the local consulate. So, you could send a letter to Chantal Hochuli c/o Swiss Consulate, London.

Monte Carlo: I didn't know that. Thanks for the information Christian!

Caroline looking so madly in love.
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Originally posted by King Christian@Nov 5th, 2003 - 9:59 pm
A question ... is this a "before Ernst got married" shot, or an after pic ?
after picture... it was their vacation to Portugal...

starring deeply into each other's eye.... her love Ernst
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Isn't this a sweet picture?
That, my dear, is Stefano !
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montecarlo this may be a WILD assumption but i take it you are a Stefano fan!!
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Caroline looking so madly in love
The "I'm pregnant" glow ?
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I know Christian. I was talking about the picture of Ernst and Caroline on the beach. As for Caroline having the "I'm pregnant glow" it's more like, "God, I'm so happy, I finally found the love of my life."

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It looks as though, Ernst, is shoving his tongue down her throat.

maybe our dear Caroline likes some tongue... ya never know!!
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The "I'm pregnant" glow ?
well well well... it's that SAME glow all over again... !
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shoving his tongue down her throat.
maybe she likes a diet of tongue ?
or is it a case of "I didn't order this" ?
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I'm getting to thinking, that's "me" at the back of your avatar.
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