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I have often wondered if the Prince’s sisters had something to do with Princess Charlene not always being present at events. The sisters have stood in as a wife substitute for so long they might not want to have given up what should have been a temporary position. They may have voiced their view enough that Charlene just let them have their way. They may have ‘hounded’ Albert enough too, that Charlene did not feel the bickering and arguing over this was as important as her life with Albert and the children. IMOO I do not see a lot of friendliness between Princess Charlene and the sisters. I often felt that Caroline thought the crown would pass onto her oldest child until the marriage of Albert when that hope was squashed....then even more the hope was squashed with the birth of the twins. That is just MOO.
There was plenty of evidence that Albert's sisters went out of their way to be welcoming. It's only in recent years, with the increasing disappearance of Charlene from public life that the relationship seemed to cool.

I think the sisters are quite happy with their respective workloads and Caroline has been on record many times over the years as saying she never expected to have the role she did. I really don't understand why people assume she is lying.

If she had ambitions for Andrea she should have provided with a different education - one that prepared him to lead Monaco. As she isn't a stupid woman and she brought him as a private citizen, albeit a very privileged one, I'm pretty certain that she had absolutely no desire to see him as the Prince of Monaco.

As for Charlene and Albert's arrangement I think it suits them both. He has his heir and spare and can carry on doing his thing and she turns up for the odd key event. I don't think it's what he originally thought his marriage would be, I suspect he was hoping for a partnership like his parents - but it's what he's (they've) ended up with and they make it work for them. Personally, I still think she's a pretty useless Princess Consort who can barely conceal her contempt for her adopted country. The person she presents to the public now is not who she used to be - maybe the criticism, the goldfish bowl lifestyle, the homesickness have all played their part in bringing her to this point. JMO, of course.
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Old 03-17-2019, 05:43 PM
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There was plenty of evidence that Albert's sisters went out of their way to be welcoming. It's only in recent years, with the increasing disappearance of Charlene from public life that the relationship seemed to cool.

I think the sisters are quite happy with their respective workloads and Caroline has been on record many times over the years as saying she never expected to have the role she did. I really don't understand why people assume she is lying.

If she had ambitions for Andrea she should have provided with a different education - one that prepared him to lead Monaco. As she isn't a stupid woman and she brought him as a private citizen, albeit a very privileged one, I'm pretty certain that she had absolutely no desire to see him as the Prince of Monaco.

As for Charlene and Albert's arrangement I think it suits them both. He has his heir and spare and can carry on doing his thing and she turns up for the odd key event. I don't think it's what he originally thought his marriage would be, I suspect he was hoping for a partnership like his parents - but it's what he's (they've) ended up with and they make it work for them. Personally, I still think she's a pretty useless Princess Consort who can barely conceal her contempt for her adopted country. The person she presents to the public now is not who she used to be - maybe the criticism, the goldfish bowl lifestyle, the homesickness have all played their part in bringing her to this point. JMO, of course.
I agree with you Florestane. Princess Caroline disappeared from the Monaco public life except for Le Bal de la Rose and the National Day. Stephanie is attending the Circus events only. Princess Caroline and Stephanie left all the light to the Princess Consort. What a shame.
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Old 03-18-2019, 11:25 AM
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Prince Albert will welcome Chinese President Xi Jinping for a state visit to Monaco on March 24. Xi Jinping will make a series of state visits to Italy, Monaco and France from March 21 to 26, source.
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Prince Albert will welcome Chinese President Xi Jinping for a state visit to Monaco on March 24. Xi Jinping will make a series of state visits to Italy, Monaco and France from March 21 to 26, source.
Right, it dosn't get much bigger than the President of China on a state visit. SURELY Charlene will be there to greet him with Albert.
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Right, it dosn't get much bigger than the President of China on a state visit. SURELY Charlene will be there to greet him with Albert.
Monaco rarely has State Visits I can't recall any recently this is a high profile visit.
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Old 03-18-2019, 12:40 PM
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Yes, absolutly, this is a very super high important guest, the President of China!

Prince Albert must have made an extraordinary and lasting impression, while he visited China!

Monaco might be small in size, but it is not only size, that matters...
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Yes, absolutly, this is a very super high important guest, the President of China!

Prince Albert must have made an extraordinary and lasting impression, while he visited China!

Monaco might be small in size, but it is not only size, that matters...
Monaco has always punched above it's weight but having the Chinese President come for a state visit really is something. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Charlene AND Caroline were in the welcome party with Albert.
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Yes, absolutly, this is a very super high important guest, the President of China!

Prince Albert must have made an extraordinary and lasting impression, while he visited China!

Monaco might be small in size, but it is not only size, that matters...
Well, if it's true that $$ makes the world go round, the Principality is a global superpower.

And His Serene Highness Albert II, his messy past aside, is an excellent ambassador for his tiny Mediterranean city state. He is affable, gracious, intelligent, cosmopolitan...he combines the old World good manners of his father Rainier with the American simplicity and charm of Princess Grace.

Monaco is lucky to have him, imo.
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I wonder if it will be a lunch in the state dining room or an evening dinner.
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Old 03-19-2019, 04:20 PM
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The Palace has released the programme of the state visit from China today, it'll be a short one, but all three Princesses - Charlene, Caroline and Stephanie - will attend:


** Press release in French **


In the late morning Prince Albert and Princess Charlene will welcome the President and his wife with an official welcome ceremony at the courtyard of the Princely Palace. A private conversation, a signement and an official photo will follow. Prince Albert and the President, both with a delegation, will attend a bilateral meeting, while Princess Charlene and the President's wife will enjoy a short concert at the Palace. A state luncheon will follow, also attended by Princesses Caroline and Stephanie. After a folklore presentation by Monégasques pupils the Presidental couple will bid goodbye and leave Monaco.
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Old 03-19-2019, 04:22 PM
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For Albert's sake and for the citizens of the Principality, I am quite frankly relieved.
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Interesting that all three Princesses - Charlene, Caroline and Stephanie - will attend for the short Chinese visit to Monaco.
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For Albert's sake and for the citizens of the Principality, I am quite frankly relieved.
So am I but it's awful that, in her position, we should have to wonder if Charlene will show up at certain things. Anyway I am looking forward to this visit now and it would be so nice if Jaques and Gabriella got to meet the president too.

BTW It shows what a big deal this visit is when even Stephanie will be in the welcome party.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:09 AM
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It is a state visit

The communicat speciefies that the president of China will be received by LLAASS prince Albert and Princess Charlene


After the reception of the presidential couple by the princely couple in the ' cour d'honneur, the two couples president, his wife , Prince Albert and the princess Charlene will share intimat moment

While prince Albert will have a meeting with the president and the chines delegation , Princess Charlene will attend a concert with the wife of the president in the palace


After there will be a state diner offered by LLAASS prince Albert and princess Charlene to the presidential couple , the chinese delegation and monegash delegation, Princess Caroline and Princess Stéphanie will be present to this diner


The chinese couple will leave the palace in the end of the afternoon, they will have a privat diner in Nice with the president Macron and his wife in Nice, France


The palace specifies in his communicat that it is the prince Albert and Princess Charlene who are inviting the president and his wife, all the cérémonies and diner are given by The prince Albert and Princess Charlene


Princess Caroline and princess Stéphanie will be only present to this diner like the monegash and chinese délégations, they have not a important role in this visit like Albert and Charlene, it makes the difference
It is why I posted the communicat in the prince Albert and princess Charlene events board

Perhaps , Jacques and Gabriella would meet the president of China in the palace
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A lot of Diners...

So, the chinese President will first eat with the monegasque and in the evening with the french. That is hard work! The plates must be emptied, or otherwise the host is insulted...



And interesting (Thank you for pointing that out, melina premiere! ) but on the other hand not that surprising, that Albert's sisters will babysit the delegations. The diner room in the palace is rather small and somebody must take care of the other guests - Ok, that is just my interpretation.
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The Princess of Hanover is a natural and experienced hostess really glad that Albert's sisters will be in attendance for the Chinese visit.
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Is this state visit going to be white tie? Are we finally seeing Charlene with a tiara?
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No, as explained in my post above, it's a state visit for a couple of hours only. It will start in the late morning and will end in the afternoon of that same day. No dinner, no gala, just a luncheon.
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No, as explained in my post above, it's a state visit for a couple of hours only. It will start in the late morning and will end in the afternoon of that same day. No dinner, no gala, just a luncheon.
Thank you so much. Really sad, this must be the shortest state visit ever!
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Old 03-21-2019, 05:57 AM
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No, it is not sad, this visit corresponds to a small country and Monaco is very small, the state visits or official visits last only one day, President Chirac, President Sarkozy or Holland, the presidentiel couple of Moldavia or Croatia stayed only one day in Monaco even the president General DeGaulle stayed one day when he met Prince Rainier and Princess Grace in 1960.


This does not detract from the importance or the solemnity of the visit, it is the first time that a chinese president is coming in Monaco, the evening, the president and his wife will diner with Mr Macron and his wife in France in Nice in the intimitat, the visit in France will last only one day, the president will leave France next tuesday


The state visite will last the day and not only a couple of hours,


The president and his wife will arrive in the Morning , received in the cour d'honneur by the princely couple,, the honors will be payed in the cour d'honneur,


Prince Albert and princess Charlene will have a meet with the presidentiel couple in intimitat in the palace


While Prince Albert will talk with the president , Princess Charlene will attend a concert with the wife of the president in an another room of the palace


After there will be the diner, in France we are Calling the meal of noon dejeuner in English lunch but it is a diner with entree, meat or fish dish , dessert, coffee and surely during an officiel diner toasts to the president and his country but it is not a cocktail , it is a true diner


After this diner, the guests will attend the danses of the palladiennes, monegash dancers and a representation of a play in Mandarin


This day will be well filled with official cérémonies and performences.


It will be an official event
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