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Old 07-21-2007, 04:08 PM
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I do not agree with you on this one. I believe that Steph knew very well what kind of event she is attending, after all she is the one orginizing it. Charlene's dress is not just another cocktail dress, if it was that would certainly be OK. Her dress was way to fancy for the occasion no matter who is attending. There was to much lace and embroidery to be just another cocktail dress. Her hair was overdone as well. It really doesn't matter where event was held. You could be invited to the White House for a barbecue, and that doesn't mean that you should show up in a business suit.

As for the PA/Sovereign being present that isn't big deal any more since he has been showing up in any/every occasion in Monaco. His presence has become nothing special. As someone said before pretty soon he will be attending openings of every food stand in Monaco. The way guests, who knew that he will show up, chose to dress show how much his presence is special and how much they respect him. If PA thinks that he will gain a respect by showing up and flaunting his overdressed friend/companion/girlfriend/swimmer Charlene, he better think twice.

As for overdressing I do agree that if you have no clue how to dress for a certain occasion it is better to be overdressed then underdressed, especially if you are trying to make an impression on the rest of the "ordinary" people. To that I would say to Charlene "you go girl", but just watch out because that could backfire.
I don't know about the White House, but in Italy, if you're invited to the residence of the President, even if for an unofficial function, you don't go in jeans, or shorts. The Sporting is a place were I would never dress as some of the guests were, regardless of who invited me or who was present; the fact that a Head of State was going to show up, just added to the need of a certain level of formality, still trying not to overdue. Anyway we seem to agree that a nice cocktail dress (whether Charlene's was one or not) would have been the most appropriate choice for such an event.

As for Steph, even thought I really appreciate her efforts in organizing the event, I would never look at her as a model for dressing choices or codes, whatever the occasion.
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Old 07-21-2007, 06:14 PM
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I don't know about the White House, but in Italy, if you're invited to the residence of the President, even if for an unofficial function, you don't go in jeans, or shorts. The Sporting is a place were I would never dress as some of the guests were, regardless of who invited me or who was present; the fact that a Head of State was going to show up, just added to the need of a certain level of formality, still trying not to overdue. Anyway we seem to agree that a nice cocktail dress (whether Charlene's was one or not) would have been the most appropriate choice for such an event.

As for Steph, even thought I really appreciate her efforts in organizing the event, I would never look at her as a model for dressing choices or codes, whatever the occasion.
I do agree on this with you. I even had said in my post that her outfit was dreadfully looking, but still appropriate for the occasion, meaning she was not overdressed/in a long dress and updo. We all know that Steph has a weird style.
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Old 07-21-2007, 06:58 PM
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I actually think they were both dressed appropriately for the occassion. Charlene had on a little black dress (how can you go wrong with that) and Stephanie's out was lovely was well. Its not like she wore a colorful cotton top with black cotton pants. I think the outfit was made of silk (appopriate for an evening event)...I would have not liked to see the bra straps (if thats what they were) but still nice for an evening event.
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Old 07-22-2007, 02:46 AM
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I think Steph Pa & Charlene looked great and I think Pa has decided Charlene is the one. I think Steph has accepted her.I hope for the 'happy ending ' to be announced soon in their plans to marry.
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:39 PM
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Jaya, I happen to agree with you. I am still hoping that he finds someone else to marry. Someone who he keeps in the backgroung until he decides to announce his engagement. We know to much negative things about Charlene.
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:34 PM
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I do agree on this with you. I even had said in my post that her outfit was dreadfully looking, but still appropriate for the occasion, meaning she was not overdressed/in a long dress and updo. We all know that Steph has a weird style.
charlene has a stylist these days, don't think is the same one from one event to another, but she's getting help. her clothes are not SA production anymore. Steph seems to need help as well. It looks like she's so caught up in her AIDS campaign that she forgot about skin cancer and what over exposure to sun can do to you.
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:19 PM
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Charlene is too young for him i think. There's something wrong with this couple. It's not natural. It's all fake for me. She doesn't have the look of love for Albert. For me, Caroline should be at the place of Albert. She looks royal and she got manners. She's the only real Princess of Monaco. She was able to preserve the mystique around her. There's is a lot of work to do with her kids but it's possible.... Albert doesn't have the statue of an Head of State. Why do they always need to match him with girls perfect for Hollywood but not for a Palace?? Caroline seems to take her distance from Monaco... God she's right!!
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:50 AM
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Charlene is too young for him i think. There's something wrong with this couple. It's not natural. It's all fake for me. She doesn't have the look of love for Albert. For me, Caroline should be at the place of Albert. She looks royal and she got manners. She's the only real Princess of Monaco. She was able to preserve the mystique around her. There's is a lot of work to do with her kids but it's possible.... Albert doesn't have the statue of an Head of State. Why do they always need to match him with girls perfect for Hollywood but not for a Palace?? Caroline seems to take her distance from Monaco... God she's right!!
Welcome, philqc, I am agree with you, to 100%.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:11 AM
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I feel that it is inappropriate and against protocol for Albert to bring a lady friend to official events as his date, as long as she has not been formally announced as his Fiance. Most Princes bring their girlfriends out in public after an engagement has been announced. I also feel that Charlene's presence took away from the real reason for the event and only served as fodder for gossip about the Prince's lovelife. Once again, I would rather see him keep official duties official. He should have attended alone with Steph.

By the way Charlene really looked nice and she actually went to the beauty salon. I hope Albert insist that she does this in order for him to take her in public. I think he need to (A) keep her in the backgroung or (B) announce his engagement. He is beginning to look like a dirty old man, I feel that he might never get married.
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:31 AM
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I feel that it is inappropriate and against protocol for Albert to bring a lady friend to official events as his date, as long as she has not been formally announced as his Fiance. Most Princes bring their girlfriends out in public after an engagement has been announced. I also feel that Charlene's presence took away from the real reason for the event and only served as fodder for gossip about the Prince's lovelife. Once again, I would rather see him keep official duties official. He should have attended alone with Steph.

By the way Charlene really looked nice and she actually went to the beauty salon. I hope Albert insist that she does this in order for him to take her in public. I think he need to (A) keep her in the backgroung or (B) announce his engagement. He is beginning to look like a dirty old man, I feel that he might never get married.
First Welcome PHilqc.

My problem is not that he brought Charlene or a date it was the way she came in. She was yards behind Albert and Stephanie all alone like a bridesmaid would parading down the aisle. She didn't know what to do with her hands and ended up clasping them in front as if she had a bouquet. Albert seem to ignore her presence on the red carpet. It was Stephanie who turned around and spoke to her and then she came forward. That's no way to treat a girlfriend or anyone. If he wanted to bring Charlene or a date and they were not going to walk in with him, then she should have already been there and let him parade in with Stephanie. I was shocked at the lack protocol. If she was going to walk in behind him she should have been escorted by someone not left all alone. It is well known I don't feel Charlene is up to the job but this was an awful position to put her in, although I realize she did it willingly grinning like a school girl. It showed Albert in his entitlement role once again. Stephanie came off as a kind genuine human being and passionate about her aids foundation.
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:58 AM
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I think you are right she should of come with some one , instead of walking by her self , I just think for a Prince , he should either get engaged to her , or not take her out puplic events, Prince Rainer would never of done that with grace's ? if they werent engaged would he ?
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:00 AM
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By the way Charlene really looked nice and she actually went to the beauty salon. I hope Albert insist that she does this in order for him to take her in public. I think he need to (A) keep her in the backgroung or (B) announce his engagement. He is beginning to look like a dirty old man, I feel that he might never get married.
it looks like they finally took her to the hair dresser, the stylist and ....the jewlers. Albert has been opening his pockets for her latest appearances. the way she showed up at the grand prix gala was a total mess. She needed help and she got it. BTW. the cartier bracelet and earings are nice pieces, he is a generous boyfriend.
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:13 AM
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Yeah yeah right... you do however realize that you are now taking away that attention from the good cause the evening was all about, by going on and on about Charlene and Albert and whatever there might be open to your interpretation, don't you ?!
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:26 AM
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but this is what the press does in general, sebastian. the focus is on charlene's presence not the actual event. remember Caro's charity dinner in SA. isn't charlene all that matters these days in relation to MC??
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:30 AM
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Yeah yeah right... you do however realize that you are now taking away that attention from the good cause the evening was all about, by going on and on about Charlene and Albert and whatever there might be open to your interpretation, don't you ?!
Don't blame the messengers! Thank Albert! after all he should have not drawn attention to Charlene by having her walk in with him and alone. She should have already been there so the attention would have stayed on Stephanie as it should have, but Albert is only thinking of Albert. So I think all this talk was exactly what Albert wanted after all it was his job to keep the focus on Stephanie and he chose otherwise.
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:50 AM
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Don't blame the messengers! Thank Albert! after all he should have not drawn attention to Charlene by having her walk in with him and alone. She should have already been there so the attention would have stayed on Stephanie as it should have, but Albert is only thinking of Albert. So I think all this talk was exactly what Albert wanted after all it was his job to keep the focus on Stephanie and he chose otherwise.
Sorry, don't agree. He wanted to take her, he took her. Stephanie actually appriciated it as much as I know. Everything people can do is obviously speculate about Albert and Charlene's relationship and everything else around it - and it doesn't have to be this way. Maybe Albert, just like me, is waiting for the day this whole fuss people are making of it will get less. I'm quite aware that there'll always be attention and so is Albert, but people are exaggerating way over the top.
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:02 AM
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She didn't know what to do with her hands and ended up clasping them in front as if she had a bouquet. Albert seem to ignore her presence on the red carpet. It was Stephanie who turned around and spoke to her and then she came forward. That's no way to treat a girlfriend or anyone. If he wanted to bring Charlene or a date and they were not going to walk in with him, then she should have already been there and let him parade in with Stephanie. I was shocked at the lack protocol. If she was going to walk in behind him she should have been escorted by someone not left all alone.
i dont feel sorry for her in any way-so she had to walk behind all by herself-imo she wants the title let her belittle herself in public some more-it makes for a good read
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Charlene is too young for him i think. There's something wrong with this couple. It's not natural. It's all fake for me. She doesn't have the look of love for Albert. For me, Caroline should be at the place of Albert. She looks royal and she got manners. She's the only real Princess of Monaco. She was able to preserve the mystique around her. There's is a lot of work to do with her kids but it's possible.... Albert doesn't have the statue of an Head of State. Why do they always need to match him with girls perfect for Hollywood but not for a Palace?? Caroline seems to take her distance from Monaco... God she's right!!
ditto-i think that princess caroline is a smart women not to say princess stephanie isn't. if my brother behave like that i wouldn't go near him until he got his act together-imo
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:21 AM
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BTW. the cartier bracelet and earings are nice pieces, he is a generous boyfriend.
They are most likely on loan, just as actors do for awards ceremonies.

She did clean up well.
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:29 AM
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They are most likely on loan, just as actors do for awards ceremonies.
well, shouldn't that send her a message...if she gets to wear them for a few hours and then later has to give them back. Something however tells me the jewlery it's hers, i don't think she would stay if there wouldn't be perks every now and then. Afterall loving boyfriends make gifts...


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She did clean up well.
That doesn't come for free either. Could albert have learned how to treat his girfriend?
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:29 AM
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it looks like they finally took her to the hair dresser, the stylist and ....the jewlers. Albert has been opening his pockets for her latest appearances. the way she showed up at the grand prix gala was a total mess. She needed help and she got it. BTW. the cartier bracelet and earings are nice pieces, he is a generous boyfriend.
I think she's been doing what all the models are doing: borrow a dress and jewellery (probably repossi as they are close to the family) and have her hair and make up done. Costs a lot less then you might think and she doesn't need Albert for this. Apart from shoes she hasn't been wearing the dresses more then once. I don't think that ALbert is giving her money to do this and she doesn't have it.

As to Charlene taking away the attention in the media: well as we can see by the rtl report (which was in a variation repeated by vox) that wasn't quite the case. On the contrary it showed a very natural and dedicated Steph, supported by her people ( not the rich as was pointed out but apparently 70% were locals). The press seems to become more and more ironical towards this maybe-maybe not game and they showed Albert flirting with someone else while Charlene was sitting next to him. THis is not the first time I see this type of reporting and since the newest publications about what is happening in Monaco, I am getting the impression that the press seems to get less worried about being sued.
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