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Old 05-13-2009, 05:29 PM
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Albert was in Norway today!

Prince Albert II of Monaco smiles during his visit to the EVS 24,
the International Battery, Hybrid and Fuel Cell Electric Vehicle
Symposium, held in Stavanger, Norway on 13 May 2009.

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Old 05-14-2009, 11:19 AM
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Albert was in Norway today!

Prince Albert II of Monaco smiles during his visit to the EVS 24,
the International Battery, Hybrid and Fuel Cell Electric Vehicle
Symposium, held in Stavanger, Norway on 13 May 2009.

** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 **
I presume this is part of his global-warming interest. I hope he used a green form of transport to get from Monaco to Norway and back!
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:38 AM
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Sadly, he didn't. As usual, he flew via private plane which to me defeats the purpose of any message be presents about the environment.
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:00 PM
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I presume this is part of his global-warming interest. I hope he used a green form of transport to get from Monaco to Norway and back!
The greenest way to travel from Monaco to Norway would have been
swimming, so I guess no In general it's always a bit problematic to
combine the environment interests and work with a environmental-friendly
behavior - congresses hundrets of delegates or head of states like Prince
Albert can only reach by travelling around thalf of the world can get
questionable with that in mind..
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:42 PM
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The greenest way to travel from Monaco to Norway would have been
swimming, so I guess no In general it's always a bit problematic to
combine the environment interests and work with a environmental-friendly
behavior - congresses hundrets of delegates or head of states like Prince
Albert can only reach by travelling around thalf of the world can get
questionable with that in mind..
I think the problem many of us are having is that he is traveling all the time. You don't see Prince Charles doing that. In addition, Monaco has many environmental problems of its own and some feel he should be addressing those first. As charity begins at home so should environmental issues. There in lies the problem. Many would like to know what his carbon foot print is.
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Prince Charles and PA are not something that can be compared in that view because P Charles his mum is still on the throne (which is wonderful too) meanwhile....
PA has to do it all with his sisters whom do a beautiful job. So PA was always doing lots of the travel work when Ranier was around....now PA has to do it PLUS Raniers work Plus Pss. Grace work too!!! (whew just thinking about it makes us tired)
As beautifully a job PA is doing lets be realistic he is only human and all that work is bound to keep him busy!!
however, he does a great job
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:47 PM
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Prince Charles and PA are not something that can be compared in that view because P Charles his mum is still on the throne (which is wonderful too) meanwhile....
PA has to do it all with his sisters whom do a beautiful job. So PA was always doing lots of the travel work when Ranier was around....now PA has to do it PLUS Raniers work Plus Pss. Grace work too!!! (whew just thinking about it makes us tired)
As beautifully a job PA is doing lets be realistic he is only human and all that work is bound to keep him busy!!
however, he does a great job
With all due respect, he doesn't have to do it all by himself. His subjects are not happy with his being absent so much. He now has ambassadors in many places. He has extended family who could take more of a role --not to mention that many of the photos make him look like a ribbon cutter and not a serious leader. What he needs to do is shift gears from being CP Albert to soverign. He doesn't seem to have made the shift. In short he needs to delegate more and only attend the most important functions. JMO
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Old 05-14-2009, 07:01 PM
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He could also do, as many other Royals do, and fly commercial. It's a lot greener than say his private jet plus two helicopters to the palace and back. Heck, even the Queen of England has flown commercial. There is a note on the blog with a link to the recent article - his subjects are indeed very unhappy with his constant travel without paying attention to his issues at home.
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I've said before that I have mixed feelings about environmentalism in general. I think it's great to do things to help the environment, clean things up etc, but I also think it's arrogant to think that human beings have that big of an impact on a planet billions of years old. About Prince Albert II and his travel, I would certainly understand that his people would like him more at home and I can understand questioning how necessary all the trips are. That being said, it is also true that Monaco is similar to one big business and Prince Albert has to "advertise" for his country as it were, keep the little principality from being forgotten and overlooked and make sure potential investors think about Monaco as a place to do business. I doubt the Monegasque would be any happier if their Prince stayed at home but their economy regressed to the way it was in certain past periods when the world basically ignored Monaco.

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Albert uses his private plane because it is faster and more convenient than just going from flight to flight, it makes him independent, it is much better for someone who travels a lot like him. He has his private plane so he uses it, like I would do if I were him.
But yes, he seems travel too much, he could stay more in MC. Sometimes this traveling around seems not to make a sense.
Wonder if people in Monaco really feel that he travels too much. If they are OK with that I guess we should be OK too.
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I've said before that I have mixed feelings about environmentalism in general. I think it's great to do things to help the environment, clean things up etc, but I also think it's arrogant to think that human beings have that big of an impact on a planet billions of years old. About Prince Albert II and his travel, I would certainly understand that his people would like him more at home and I can understand questioning how necessary all the trips are. That being said, it is also true that Monaco is similar to one big business and Prince Albert has to "advertise" for his country as it were, keep the little principality from being forgotten and overlooked and make sure potential investors think about Monaco as a place to do business. I doubt the Monegasque would be any happier if their Prince stayed at home but their economy regressed to the way it was in certain past periods when the world basically ignored Monaco.



Bones you have some valid points and what we would think would be said. it's true Monaco does alot of Business and yes, Ranier was home but PA was the one doing the grunt work for Ranier to get Monaco to that point and it would be sad that Monaco would be overlooked because of PA not doing the diligient thing to get it to Monaco.
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Albert does much to promote the Principality, and that inevitably means travel by air.

Like a shrewd businessman, he works to help attract investment and tourists.

The imminent 2009 Monaco Grand Prix is an example of this, but even there his efforts may be hampered by extraneous influences, such as the incipient revolt of the car manufacturers against the Formula One World Championship bosses

Another example is Albert's effort to get more transparency in the financial sector. Sadly, this is being hampered by extraneous factors; initially, the OECD agreed to take Monaco off the blacklist, but the G20 meeting in London reverted the decision, leaving several countries in limbo.

I think Albert has made the transition from playboy to statesman, or is on the way to achieve that.
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it's agreed....Monaco did not get to be the jewel that it is by just Ranier or PA sitting around 'hoping' everyone will "like' Monaco and show up whenever they can business-wise; and, in this enviornment his need to be 'out' there getting things taken care of is a wise move.
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Albert does much to promote the Principality, and that inevitably means travel by air.

Like a shrewd businessman, he works to help attract investment and tourists.

The imminent 2009 Monaco Grand Prix is an example of this, but even there his efforts may be hampered by extraneous influences, such as the incipient revolt of the car manufacturers against the Formula One World Championship bosses

Another example is Albert's effort to get more transparency in the financial sector. Sadly, this is being hampered by extraneous factors; initially, the OECD agreed to take Monaco off the blacklist, but the G20 meeting in London reverted the decision, leaving several countries in limbo.

I think Albert has made the transition from playboy to statesman, or is on the way to achieve that.
I agree with what you say here although I hope he gets his personal life sorted out or for the time being it stays more private at least, but I think professionally it seems he has actaully done quite a lot in a pretty short amount of time.

I also think it's unfair after agreeing to take Monaco off the black list and now they're kind of jerking them around--maybe these little countries should get together and just ignore then completely and stop making any progress to appease these guys, if these other countries don't want to recognize their efforts here? Maybe they just need someone to complain about after all?
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I agree with what you say here although I hope he gets his personal life sorted out or for the time being it stays more private at least, but I think professionally it seems he has actaully done quite a lot in a pretty short amount of time.

I also think it's unfair after agreeing to take Monaco off the black list and now they're kind of jerking them around--maybe these little countries should get together and just ignore then completely and stop making any progress to appease these guys, if these other countries don't want to recognize their efforts here? Maybe they just need someone to complain about after all?
I think it needs to be a bit stronger than complain. Afterall, France is the one who benefits the most if Monaco meets the guidelines. I wonder who on the G20 back-peddled on Monaco. If they are saying one thing and doing another, then it is up to Monaco to decide whether to voluntarily comply or just say forget it and continue business as usual. Again, France is the one to benefit from Monaco's change in policy.
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Exactly! The whole debacle also shows France's ambivalent attitude to its independent "sidekick". They're happy to have a degree of control, and their gendarmes policing Monaco, but they're not so quick when they have to stand up for PA and Monaco on the wider world stage.
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I was worried when the whole thing about Monaco and the list came out and the speed with which changes were promised to get back with the "in" crowd. Monaco needs to have something to attract big-money to the country, with the cost of living as it is, they would dry up without the rich coming to spend their money there. I also fully agree about France. Monaco is supposed to be a French protectorate so let's see Paris do some protecting!
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Actually I meant the other countries were complaining.

Regarding France, and I may not be clear on this issue so I'm probably speaking too soon, but don't they have the monopoly on the electricity in Monaco and isn't there some connection with residency? I remember people posting about the empty apartments with all their lights on? Maybe someone who knows better can explain it to me, if there is anything to this? Thanks.
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