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Old 05-31-2006, 01:21 AM
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Maybe a few more admissions?
So far Monaco's population has increased by two.
:) haha..that's an interesting way of looking at it..I am wondering if Jazmin would automatically receive the Monegasque citizenship..
Well, we'll see what tomorrow brings..Yeah, I'll have a chair close by..:)
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Old 05-31-2006, 02:06 AM
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wow! this is crazy. one minute you don't really have a father and the next you do...

i hope everything works well for jazmin. i just hope she continues on with her life and remains sensible in all of this.
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Old 05-31-2006, 02:15 AM
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I honestly think that is the whole idea. I think he really is planning to marry charlene and so he first has to clean up his closet. Or the other way around. He has to come out about jazmin so plans to kind of smooth things by marrying charlene so the world won't be like "there he is messing with another woman who will probably fall pregnant." I think he is going to try and move the attention from jazmin being his daughter to marriage. That is why all is happening at the same time. First he formaly introduces CW, then we now read he is planning to acknowledge JZ and all within days of each other. Very well planned.
I agree with you 100%.
PA has had 14 years to admit JGG was his child and for him to just out of the blue confess make me feel that something eles is about to take place...
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Old 05-31-2006, 03:48 AM
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This makes me so sad for what Jazmin and her Mom had to go through. I read that when she was younger, they had to be on welfare after PA started to deny payments in order to deny paternity--(FYI-In USA, it's government $ for those qualifying on the poverty level income).
But I am so proud of their strength and fortitude. I think Grandma Grace was looking over our American Princess.
Now I believe in Karma--While Albert is marrying an unemployed, high-school drop-out, his disowned daughter is on the high school honor roll. From all accounts, she is a brilliant student.
As I believe Paca stated--CW and Jazmin Grace are both in the same age range to be daughters of Prince Albert and maybe they will be like sisters together. Perhaps Jazmin can tutor CW-- I think CW should study and earn a high school equivalency diploma.:)

But I truly believe this timing will blow-up in PA's face. When he will be celebrating his wedding the United states Media ( Which won't air the wedding, since CW isn't an American) will show his disowned child Jazmin and asking plenty of questions. Americans will see the picture of CW in that black mini-dress taking a drag from the cigarette and not be impressed. When PA and serene Charlene go on Larry King next fall--there will be few fairy tale questions........ They will ask him about his two beautiful children and why they are left out of the succession (and given no titles)when he has the means to change it. Reporters will again ask the racism questions and could also bring up sexism--since his first born is a lovely girl. American reporters will also ask how much he sees his children etc... Jazmin spent 14 years being denied by her father--PA will have a lot of "Splainin" to do during US interviews. His "fairytale marriage" won't get the vibes he wants...
Prince Albert needs to take a break before he announces an engagement---think PA! . He's putting his citizens on an emotional roller-coaster.
This is sad timing--How much more Can the citizens of Monaco take??????
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Old 05-31-2006, 04:26 AM
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Perhaps Jazmin can tutor CW-- I think CW should study and earn a high school equivalency diploma.:)
That's a good one:p . I'll be really glad if PA finally recognize Jazmin as his daughter..But taking 14 years to do that is kinda sad....If he never contacted Jazmin all these years and finally the idea popped inside his head and did it....I wonder how Jazmin would feel......
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Old 05-31-2006, 05:02 AM
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Goodness, I almost feel out of my chair like Toledo!

I'm happy that Jazmin Grace will be finally acknowledged but I feel sad about PA II's reluctance to do so for 14 years. Hope all ends well, at least everything is said to be handled real well for the teen's sake. I'm also glad to know that JG sounds like a very nice and intelligent girl, despite what she had to grow up with (paternity issue). I cannot imagine that she and her mother had to go on welfare $$$; that sounds so inhumane (for lack of a better word), considering her heritage.

I guess we'll all be glued to the Net and this forum in the next few days - I know I will.
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Old 05-31-2006, 05:49 AM
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wow!!!! i saw this at another board and everyone was just shaking their heads. where i come from there is an old saying that, the only person that knows who the father of a child is, is the mother. but i will have to wait for an official announcement before i believe this one. in any case i wouldnt want to be in CW`s shoes. talk about being embarrased in public.

what i do want to know is why wasnt this done before the `official introduction of CW` (according to WENN caption) and before all this wedding talk started. wouldnt that have made it a less humiliating (for lack of a better word) experience for CW. now if she is the official bride then she would have to address the issue of both kids to the public whether she likes it or not. she will be technically the stepmother to both of them. this is of course if she is really getting married to PA.

i am also surprised by the lack of outrage on this board compared to when NC went public. what is the difference between NC and this woman, besides that she is white and NC is black??
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:01 AM
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According to French magazine Le Figaro, which is a hightly reliable source of news (as serious as Le Monde), Albert is about to acknowledge Jazmin.
Here the link to the article in French. I don't have the time to translate, maybe someone will.
I precise I post this information as it doesn't come from a rag or a people magazine. This is serious news.

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Albert de Monaco a également une fille



Un an après la reconnaissance de son fils Alexandre, le Prince de Monaco s'apprête à reconnaître sa fille américaine Jazmin Grace Rotolo.


L'OFFICIALISATION est imminente. D'ici quelques jours, le Prince Albert de Monaco révèlera l'existence de sa fille cachée Jazmin Grace Rotolo, 14 ans. Un an après le décès du prince Rainier, le nouveau chef d'Etat joue la transparence. Après avoir confirmé en juillet 2005, l'existence de son petit garçon Alexandre qu'il a eu avec Nicole Coste, une ancienne hôtesse de l'air togolaise, le Prince est donc père pour la seconde fois. «Il n'y a pas d'autres enfants cachés», promet l'un de ses conseillers [...]
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:07 AM
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i am also surprised by the lack of outrage on this board compared to when NC went public. what is the difference between NC and this woman, besides that she is white and NC is black??
Perhaps it was because the JG-Tamara saga has been going on since the early 1990s, and NC just out of the blue shocked everyone - and her timing was just too off (too soon after Prince Rainier died and within the official mourning period). (Almost) No one had a clue about her and Alexandre then before she blabbed to Paris Match. As for JG-Tamara, we were already discussing them and even had a poll whether or not JG is indeed Albert's child before. I don't think - and I also speak for myself - anyone here is racist.:)
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:34 AM
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http://fr.news.yahoo.com/31052006/20...mericaine.html

http://fr.news.yahoo.com/31052006/21...i-enfants.html

http://fr.news.yahoo.com/30052006/5/...-selon-le.html

From today's Yahoo!France>Monaco News
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:39 AM
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There is sth on the TF1 website, where one of PAs advisors is quoted. There is also a videolink on the site
http://tf1.lci.fr/infos/people/0,,3305699,00.html
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:44 AM
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Old 05-31-2006, 07:57 AM
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Oh my gosh!! I can't say I'm that surprised, but part of me was really beginning to think maybe he wasn't the father.

Well in any case at least it is out there and these people can all be at peace and hopefully start having good relationships to make up for lost time.

I am happy for the girl to have found her dad.

I think its the honorable thing for him to do.
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:02 AM
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I think that the reason she wasn't recognized years ago was Prince Rainier.
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:32 AM
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personally I just cannot wait to hear what all those people who kept calculation the length of the preganancy have to say about this. I mean that seemed to have been the main reason some people on these boards were using to say it is impossible. Or those who insisted there was no resemblance. This is going to be fun. I think most people will be outraged by the 14years wait. I don't care if ranier was alive he was an adult. I don't care if you are a prince, a kid is not a toy that can you can just throw away when you don't like it. That is his blood. And if that is how Ranier was then its a shame. And even a bigger shame for his son. Anyway lets wait and see although i have believed she is his just from following the events. You have to be crazy to follow a man in his position claiming he fathered your child if its not true knowing he will have to do a dna test. She had followed him too much. Anyway.
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:37 AM
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Oh my gosh!! I can't say I'm that surprised, but part of me was really beginning to think maybe he wasn't the father.

Well in any case at least it is out there and these people can all be at peace and hopefully start having good relationships to make up for lost time.

I am happy for the girl to have found her dad.

I think its the honorable thing for him to do.
I doubt if he is doing it by choice, he just has to. If i was tamara i would insists he does it too simply because he was making come out as a liar and yet am I sure if he had done what was expected of him a long time ago she would have been descret. I mean this is a woman who has not been in the media a lot, and until recently it was impossible to find a photo of her. Maybe the media was the only way to get PA attention especially if he probably changed his personal contacts after the end of the relationship. I mean what do you do then. Write to him using his fun mail. I am glad the girl can finally have some peace with that. Can you imagine how her life in school might have been with the other kids making fun of her how her mother is dilutional thinking a prince is her dad. Kids can be cruel so i am sure this will be great for her in many levels. I wonder if TR has other kids.
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Old 05-31-2006, 09:22 AM
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Rainier "accepted" pre-wedding pregnancies and children born out of wedlock (I say accepted because I imagine for a man educated before the Second wolrd war those things were very inappropiate) from his daughters, because he loved them, so I don't see why, if Al had really wanted to recognize a daughter, Rainier would have forbidden it. I know Al was the Heir, but I think Rainier's actions prove he was just a loving father, more interested in his children well-being than in etiquette.
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Old 05-31-2006, 09:27 AM
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How could Rainier not accept them, being the child of an illigitimate child. And in his mothers days it was far more difficult then it is today. He might not have aproved with regards to the image of Monaco, which is basically the image of the model 50s family in a nice and clean and sunny principality.


le monde has an article too, quoting people from the palace http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,...-777998,0.html


There is a tiny bit in the France 2 news from 13.00h http://le13heures.france2.fr/
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I am still in shock AGAIN over how stupid Albert is in having unprotected sex with these women (and how many others?). In addition to two unwanted pregnancies he also put himself at risk for diseases, some of which may have just not shown up yet. He might have changed his behaviors now but these irresponsible choices speak directly to his character. All three of the Grimaldi siblings have shown why some people in royal circles look down on them. They behave like common trash.

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There is a more explicit video on France 3. TF1 didn't have it in video yet, only on the webpage, so I assume there will be sth tonight. Last time he announced it with PPDA as well, maybe that's why they did not mention anything yet.
http://jt.france3.fr/1213/
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