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Old 04-17-2006, 09:21 AM
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yet another denial re: Jazmin

This story mainly has to do with Pss Stephanie but in paragraph #13 of The Sunday Times posted April 16, 2006 there is yet another denial PA is the father of Jazmin. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...136222,00.html
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Old 04-17-2006, 11:08 AM
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"An American teenager who visited Monaco at the end of last year with her mother also claims that Albert is her father. His spokesman has denied that she is related."

Sounds like a denial to me.
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:43 PM
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"An American teenager who visited Monaco at the end of last year with her mother also claims that Albert is her father. His spokesman has denied that she is related."

Sounds like a denial to me.
Unless there's an official statement from the Palace there's no denial.
I have to read official statement from Palace or hear it from Prince Albert's lips for any denial or admission to be on the record. Both the Palace and Prince Albert have failed to do either to date.
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:53 PM
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Unless there's an official statement from the Palace there's no denial.
I have to read official statement from Palace or hear it from Prince Albert's lips for any denial or admission to be on the record. Both the Palace and Prince Albert have failed to do either to date.
There's no official statement acknowledging Jazmin, which is what TR wants very much. Furthermore, I think all the denials are valid and credible but for people who want this to be true, no words denying his fathering Jazmin will due. They will always find some way to say 'he didn't say it this way or he didn't say it that way, it wasn't on official letterhead from the palace, they didn't refer to her by name' and so on. The most important thing to remember is that TR wants public acknowledgement and Albert hasn't given it.
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Old 04-17-2006, 09:00 PM
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LadyMac echoes my thoughts exactly by calling what Tamara is doing to her daughter a crime. It is mental abuse, as LadyMac stated. It is horrible mental abuse of Jazmin, whether or not Albert is her father, it doesn't change that this is mentally abusive, emotionally abusive too.

<Speculation deleted - Elspeth> I pose these questions for those who have doubts to ponder:

Why would Albert deny Jazmin if she is daughter? What is there to gain? He has recognized himself as the father of Eric Alexandre Coste. Therefore, why would he recognize one child and deny the other? What does he have to gain from allowing this speculation to persist?

The answer is he has nothing to gain. The only gainer in the whole charade is Tamara. Albert loses, Jazmin loses. Tamara gets what she wants, whatever that is. Attention? money? who knows...
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Old 04-18-2006, 07:58 AM
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This article is repeating what others have said about there being a denial.

I can say "I denied kicking my brother when I was five" and tell everyone "I denied it" and have them repeat it but if I never actually made the denial, then its pointless.

If a spokesman, spokeswoman, press agent, butler or someone from the Palace said in a statement that Albert denies fathering Jazmin, I really really would like to 1) know when it was issued/made and 2) see some sort of copy of it. Albert has never said "I did not father Jazmin" or "I have denied fathering Jazmin" or even "I have already made a statement about that".

I do find it interesting that the more we discuss official or not denials of late, that there have been two articles in prominent places saying there was a "spokesman" denial.

Albert would do Monaco so much better by saying something one way or the other about Jazmin, about Charlene and about Monaco's incinerators.

Ouch, I think I got my foot caught in this soapbox. Where's that high horse?

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Old 04-18-2006, 09:03 AM
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by Suonymona Albert would do Monaco so much better by saying something one way or the other about Jazmin, about Charlene and about Monaco's incinerators.
I agree. I think he should just set the record straight here because the truth is there are good arguments for both sides here and until he does that, this kind of speculations will go on and on and on......

Lets just get it over!
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Old 05-30-2006, 03:54 PM
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Jazmin Grace news

For those who are following and discussing the JG case, todays Figaro has following article http://www.lefigaro.fr/france/200605...le_albert.html

Apparently PA is about to publicly acknowledge her.
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Old 05-30-2006, 04:33 PM
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If this is true, I am officially through with PA! I've already express my anger at the way he's treating poor Alex, but I was giving him the benefit of the doubt when he said he wasn't JGG's father! It will be interesting to see if he'll spend time with this illegitimate child. Hmph!

I wonder if he if tidying things up, so to speak, so he can get hitched to Charlene?
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Old 05-30-2006, 04:47 PM
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Wow! I can't say I'm shocked about this. I saw the pic and Jazmin really did resemble him. I don't understand how you could wait 14 years to acknowlege a child. She's almost an adult already! I don't know for sure, but it seems like he hasn't spent much time, if any, with her for the past 14 years, so why would anything be different now? I feel sad for everyone involved.
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Old 05-30-2006, 05:23 PM
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Oh boy! I wonder if Albert feels he has got himself in way over his head. It's not as if he made life easy for himself... Mind you, it could all be (yet another) gossip story. What happened to his al his good intentions at his inthronisation? He's been denying he's her father for 14 years.

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I wonder if he if tidying things up, so to speak, so he can get hitched to Charlene?
I so hope not...

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Old 05-30-2006, 05:32 PM
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...Albert would do Monaco so much better by saying something one way or the other about Jazmin, about Charlene and about Monaco's incinerators...

Ann
What incinerators?!
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Old 05-30-2006, 05:39 PM
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For those who are following and discussing the JG case, todays Figaro has following article http://www.lefigaro.fr/france/200605...le_albert.html

Apparently PA is about to publicly acknowledge her.
Can someone translate please. I can't read French. But one thing I did notice is that the article refers to her as Jazmin Rotolo. Was changing her name from Grimaldi to Rotolo part of the deal for this public acknowledgement?

This is the one issue I defended PA on but for some reason this story rings true for me. We'll have to see how truthful it is.
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This doesn't seem to be an official announcement or anything. I'm not familiar with the reliability of this paper, but newspapers have said things like this before and been proved wrong.

My French is very rusty, but one thing in that article was sort of amusing - one of the Prince's advisors is assuring people that Albert doesn't have any other hidden children. I wonder how he knows.
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Until I see pictures of PA and little Jazmin waving to the loyal subjects of Monaco, IM just not buying the fact that she is his daughter! And, I don't see any resemblance between the two.
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Old 05-30-2006, 06:40 PM
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Le Figaro is to my knowledge a regular newspaper, not a gossip paper .
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Can someone translate please. I can't read French. But one thing I did notice is that the article refers to her as Jazmin Rotolo. Was changing her name from Grimaldi to Rotolo part of the deal for this public acknowledgement?

This is the one issue I defended PA on but for some reason this story rings true for me. We'll have to see how truthful it is.
I will wait for an announcement from the palace. But does anyone find it odd that possibly Jazmine could have a supposed name of Grimaldi but Alexandre (the only child PA has officially acknowledged) does not? That seems completely inconsistent.

i understood that the mother put that name n the girl's birth papers from the beginning, with nothing to support her doing so from Albert. Who knows what is really going on there? i sure don't.

Again, I will wait for the palace to announce it. My my...
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This doesn't seem to be an official announcement or anything. I'm not familiar with the reliability of this paper, but newspapers have said things like this before and been proved wrong.

My French is very rusty, but one thing in that article was sort of amusing - one of the Prince's advisors is assuring people that Albert doesn't have any other hidden children. I wonder how he knows.
Le figaro is not a gossip or tabloid paper and i honestly think he is going to acknowledge her. Or at least let me say i will not be shocked if he does. I mean with PA background I cannot believe some of you would be shocked. Other than the fact that he is a prince, he is just a dogg. Or like they say in the states a player. Resemblance does not mean anything and if they are calling her rotolo now, maybe PA informed them how it works and how she cannot be called grimaldi so since he is i guess accepting her now, the mother maybe agreed. After all if it is true, then she has a whole lot more to gain.

I think that is why he has to be serious and probably marry CW because after this, he has to look like he is serious and not just messing around. Sort of an image cleanup. I bet you he is about to marry or probably announce his engagement the same day he acknowledges Jazmin.
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Another article http://www.thedesertsun.com/apps/pbc...AKING/60530008
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Old 05-30-2006, 08:41 PM
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This story mainly has to do with Pss Stephanie but in paragraph #13 of The Sunday Times posted April 16, 2006 there is yet another denial PA is the father of Jazmin. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...136222,00.html
I am not a native French speaker. I'm trying my best.


Exclusively from FIGARO One year after the recognition of his son Alexandre, the Prince of Monaco is ready to recognize his daughter Jazmin Grace Rotolo.

OFFICALIZATION is imminent. In a few days, the prince of Monaco will reveal the existence of his secret daughter Jazmin Grace Rotolo, 14. One year after the passing of prince Rainier, the new chief of state kept it hidden. After confirming in July 2005 the existence of his young son Alexandre whom he had with Nicole Coste, a former flight attendant from Togo, the Prince will be a father for the second time. «There are no other secret children», promised one of his advisers.

Described as a mature, nice, and intelligent young girl, Jazmin Grace was born in March 1992 in Palm Springs, Californie. Her mother Tamara Rotolo, a former waitress from California, fell pregnant with the prince’s child in the summer of 1991. "They met on the Riviera in July 1991 when Tamara had come to follow her husband on holiday", explains a close relation of the prince. It was married, Albert was not wary», confides the same adviser to the Prince. Less than four weeks later, in August of 1991, Tamara told Albert that she is pregnant. At the birth of the baby, the iron arms of the two parties commenced. On the 25th of November 1992, Tamara Rotolo gets a lawyer and asks for in front of a Californian judge 9540 dollars each month for alimony. Three months later in 1993, Stanley Arkin, the New York based lawyer for the prince, visibly covered up the affair. He advised waiting until 1995 when Voici told the world that <<Albert is a father>>. The newspaper was fined 23000 Euros for damages and interests.

The paparazzi on their tails

In 2006, six months after the official declaration of existence for young Alexandre, the paparazzi followed closely to the story. In California, Jazmin fell under their radar. In Paris and in Monaco, two photographers did the same with Prince Albert and his lawyer Thierry Lacoste. In early January, the photos show that Jazmin and her mother spent a few days in Monaco. On the 27th of February 2006, Voici has the tile "One of them". In April, proof of the negotiations intensify, and Jazmin and her mother return to Paris. Jazmin is photographed leaving the home of Thierry Lacoste in Suresnes, a suburb of Paris.

There, the paparazzi did not take the photo that they hoped would show the prince with his daughter. In early May, Thierry Lacoste, in charge of the negotiations with the American lawyer of Jazmin Grace Rotolo, flies to negotiate in New-York. It is here that it is expected that Prince Albert will recognize his daughter in the middle of May. But the discussions take delay.

In the United States, the tendency to be a star is strong. Helped by a media guru in California that works with the CIA for Hollywood stars, the adolescent is caught in two diametrally opposing strategies. To be a “people” (?), write a book and sell the rights to Hollywood. Or possibly follow the opinion of her father, live discreetly in France close to him, and finish her studies there. As of yesterday night, the young girl has not decided.
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