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Old 06-15-2006, 06:30 AM
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It was such a surprise to read that Prince Albert has another child! I thought that little Alexandre was the only child he got.For sure , these children born out of wedlock will not ascned the throne of Monaco!
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Old 06-15-2006, 07:43 AM
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It was such a surprise to read that Prince Albert has another child! I thought that little Alexandre was the only child he got.For sure , these children born out of wedlock will not ascned the throne of Monaco!
No, they can't. The 2002 alteration to the Succession law took care of that. The Casiraghis' claim is secure. :)
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:24 AM
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No, they can't. The 2002 alteration to the Succession law took care of that. The Casiraghis' claim is secure. :)
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:33 AM
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Only for now.
Bah, Albert won't settle down! :p
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:37 AM
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Bah, Albert won't settle down! :p
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Old 06-15-2006, 09:43 AM
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That is a really cute pic of JGG from her graduation. I have never seen TR beam so widely in any pic. I know she is relieved that all of this is out in the open.
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:10 AM
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No, they can't. The 2002 alteration to the Succession law took care of that. The Casiraghis' claim is secure. :)
PA has the power to do has he wishes! It was changed once, it may change again. In looking at his daughter... and his comment about her becoming age 18 to reveal... let us not forget: she is a member of Monaco's Royal Family by blood, she is a citizen of Monaco by Law and has the invite of her Father... at age 14 she sees more graceful and poised than any of Casiraghis. We speak of him having to be married to the "mother", or adopting -- have we forgotten she is his BLOOD and as a Monarch AND as one of two "Absolute Rulers" in the world (I have looked and I could only find two) -- PA can do as he wishes whenever he wishes. IMO: he has plans for his children -- both!
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:41 AM
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I never understood the theories that say PA can't do anything for his illegitimate kids because PR changed the constitution in 2002. First of all Jazmine was born before the change, so legally it may not even apply to her. Alex was born after the law change, but if PA is Sovereign Prince than he has the power to change the constitution just as his father PR did.

I don't understand how this is not clear. Did PR put some kind of stipulation in the constitution that says, it can never be changed after the changes he made. If not, why do people think PA can't change it.

He is sovereign prince now just as his dad was, and every price before him.

Prince Louis changed the constitiution, Prince Rainier changed the constitution and I beleive now Prince Albert can also change the constitutuion.

Only time will tell what he does with his children, both the illegitimate ones in JAsmine and Alex and legitimate children of his own if he ever marries one day.

Someone please shed some light on why people say the constitution was changed in 2002 therefore PA can't do anything about it.
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:45 AM
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Yeah, anything can happen with that tacky monarchy in Monaco especially with PA on the throne. This would never even be suggested if we were talking about the British Royal Family. There's no way that a bunch of illegitimate kids would have a chance of interupting the line of succession in Britain especially as it regards Princes William and Harry.
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Old 06-15-2006, 11:01 AM
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IMO: he has plans for his children -- both!
To start seeing them?
I'm sorry I couldn't resist; the man publicly denied that the girl was his daughter for 13 years, and now all of a sudden he wishes her to be on the throne? Maybe, if he formed a bond with his kids, he could think about changing the Constitution in 8-10 years, but right know the call of the blood is not even strong enough to make him show up with them in public...
Plus, not only the new Constitution applies to both Jazmin and Alex, but I think Rainier (and Albert with him) changed it for the exact purpose of cutting out natural children out of the line of succession (and remember in 2002 both Al and Rainier had known about Jazmin for 9 years, so they could keep the Constitution as it was, and let Albert decide whether to adopt her or not). So, I know ALbert can do what he wants, but first of all it is not very serious to change the COnstitution of a Country every two or three years, and second, I don't see Albert disagreeing with something that he helped sign just a few years ago...

I have explained my opinion; now I would like to know how Albert's behaviour leads you to believe he intends to change the Constitution...

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Old 06-15-2006, 11:17 AM
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I read somewhere that Albert can't change the Constitution without the consent of Monaco's "Parliament"
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Old 06-15-2006, 11:21 AM
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imo, if he hasn't already hopefully PA will at least spend a few birthdays and Christmases with Jazmin before changing the Constitution and putting her on the throne!
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Old 06-15-2006, 02:46 PM
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After little Alex was publicly recognized, many people wanted to see him on the throne. Now, that Jazmin is recognized, she also has many supporters who want her to be a princess. Poor P Albert, what he can do, what changes in MC constitution should he make to satisfy both groups?
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Old 06-15-2006, 03:02 PM
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I never understood the theories that say PA can't do anything for his illegitimate kids because PR changed the constitution in 2002. First of all Jazmine was born before the change, so legally it may not even apply to her. Alex was born after the law change, but if PA is Sovereign Prince than he has the power to change the constitution just as his father PR did.

I don't understand how this is not clear. Did PR put some kind of stipulation in the constitution that says, it can never be changed after the changes he made. If not, why do people think PA can't change it.

He is sovereign prince now just as his dad was, and every price before him.

Prince Louis changed the constitiution, Prince Rainier changed the constitution and I beleive now Prince Albert can also change the constitutuion.

Only time will tell what he does with his children, both the illegitimate ones in JAsmine and Alex and legitimate children of his own if he ever marries one day.

Someone please shed some light on why people say the constitution was changed in 2002 therefore PA can't do anything about it.


Of course, PA has the power to change the Monegasque Constitution in accordance with the interests of French politics, economics, security and defense (Article 1 of the Franco-Monegasque Treaty of 2002). But France is ready to help him to change it.


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Old 06-15-2006, 04:03 PM
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Suonynona...."I'm starting to feel like those we discuss here...lies are becoming the truths people choose to believe..."

Ann, you know you're my Ace- at least a part of you, sometimes! But when one gives out double-standard hints, leaning to one side in a positive way. and doing a "but" thing to the other side. Thats what this kind of stuff becomes, double messages, so people project their thinking into it.
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Old 06-15-2006, 09:36 PM
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I read somewhere that Albert can't change the Constitution without the consent of Monaco's "Parliament"
I heard that too. There is also France, and the Counsel of Europe who were involved in the changes so Monaco could become a member. Albert would have to explain the need for the change and I can't see what excuse he would be able to come up with since there is already several legitimate heirs.
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:16 PM
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After little Alex was publicly recognized, many people wanted to see him on the throne. Now, that Jazmin is recognized, she also has many supporters who want her to be a princess. Poor P Albert, what he can do, what changes in MC constitution should he make to satisfy both groups?
He can let it stand as it is and help pave the way for his hard-working elder sister to succeed him. That would be a fine thing to do, in my opinion. Caroline has earned it and she has raised three terrific kids and is raising a fourth who will be just as great. Leave my Casiraghis alone. Those are my homies. :)
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Old 06-15-2006, 11:09 PM
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